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General Forestry => Tree, Plant and Wood I.D. => Topic started by: JoshNZ on September 01, 2022, 06:47:05 PM

Title: Maple ID
Post by: JoshNZ on September 01, 2022, 06:47:05 PM
Anyone hazard a guess as to what kind of maple log I've got here? Not a very pleasant smell, the arborist thought boxalder but that wasn't consistent with the leaves I found on the ground (quite broad 5 finger leaves).


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Title: Re: Maple ID
Post by: doc henderson on September 01, 2022, 06:57:25 PM
is there a pic of the leaves of which you speak?  that is a chunk-O-wood.  may have a bacterial overlay if smells bad.
Title: Re: Maple ID
Post by: JoshNZ on September 01, 2022, 08:08:12 PM
Nooo I don't. Silly boy I know. Could've easily snapped it when I picked one up, my mind was elsewhere.
I do remember it being the generic maple leaf shape, which I noticed when comparing to the suggested boxalder photos online.

I did get to slabbing one of the limbs already, very orange heart (or maybe not heart, just staining?)

It surely is a chunk-o-wood. About 2.5ton I reckon. Put several holes in my truck deck. I've ripped it into 3 chunks and now it's even uglier
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Title: Re: Maple ID
Post by: KEC on September 01, 2022, 08:16:20 PM
Cut ends and bark appearance resemble the Box-elder (not alder) that grow here in Eastern USA. Box-elder also has unpleasant odor and the leaves resemble ash; hence the common name Ash-leafed Maple. Wood is soft.
Title: Re: Maple ID
Post by: SwampDonkey on September 02, 2022, 03:27:01 AM
It reminds me of boxelder to. Although, the heart is pink when fresh cut, darkens on exposure. We call them Manitoba maple up here as that was the source of many of them planted here on most homesteads and have naturalized along the river valley. Not native to New Brunswick. Never saw a straight one and they have limbs going in all directions. Nothing like a straight sugar maple or red maple. Boxelder is considered an invasive weed in NB, unless it's a shade tree in the yard. Then curse it when the wind and ice break major limbs off.  :D
Title: Re: Maple ID
Post by: kantuckid on September 02, 2022, 08:40:43 AM
Do you have Box Elder bugs in NZ? They follow the wood.
Title: Re: Maple ID
Post by: JoshNZ on September 02, 2022, 04:10:40 PM
Last time I laid eyes on a maple was in Canada, I don't know much about which species grow and how they get on in NZ. Boxelder seems to be the closest match timberwise.

I suppose I could've found a maple leaf from a tree nearby.
Title: Re: Maple ID
Post by: Ianab on September 02, 2022, 05:15:16 PM
Most common maple (acer species) I see locally is Acer pseudoplatanus, either as an ornamental, or a naturalised exotic. Sycamore Maple is one of it's common names. It's from Europe, so the US folks might not be familiar with it. The wood matches the description with very light sapwood, and reddish/brown heartwood, and the leaves are "maple shaped". Wood is used for furniture and musical instruments in Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acer_pseudoplatanus
Title: Re: Maple ID
Post by: SwampDonkey on September 03, 2022, 03:30:04 AM
Most abundant ornamental in our region is Norway maple (Acer platanoides) for the crimson leaves on some varieties.  But they grow nice and straight like the native ones without real long lateral limbs that break in the wind. It will naturalize around towns, yards, grown up fields here, but never see it really take over. It's not as frost hardy up here. The trunk will usually split or crack and it gets a target canker.
Title: Re: Maple ID
Post by: JoshNZ on September 03, 2022, 06:30:34 AM
They ought to call you the NZ wood doctor @Ianab (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=460) that must be 3 for 3 of mine. I'd say that's the best guess, looking at the leaf and timber.
Title: Re: Maple ID
Post by: JoshNZ on November 10, 2022, 04:06:21 AM
I still haven't gotten around to milling this chunk but I saw it had shot some new growth today too...

Does this confirm or disprove anything for anyone?


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Title: Re: Maple ID
Post by: SwampDonkey on November 10, 2022, 04:22:24 AM
The compound leaves look like ash-leaf, box elder, or as we call them here, Manitoba maple. Acer negundo