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Re: Firewood prices
« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2021, 11:14:02 AM »
I'd pass on burning the willow, smoke smells pretty much like the sewer.  Unless you don't like neighbors ;D

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« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2021, 11:23:46 AM »
No worst than aspen. I don't have to smell it, it's outside. Might be good for headache, not sure how ASA reacts when burnt. Neighbors don't mind their smoke smell or manure. ;D
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Re: Firewood prices
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2021, 10:24:07 AM »
Pittsburgh Pa. area $270 a cord $ 30 delivered.

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« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2021, 10:57:25 AM »
If I sell any its at least 150 a cord, but all softwoods.  I cant compete with the tweakers cutting 24/7 and selling for 75-100 a cord.

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« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2021, 11:12:48 AM »
Believe it or not, there are also folks doing it for charity, even loaning the firewood processor and a mill donating delivering dry wood. This would be weekend community get togethers.





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« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2021, 12:53:27 PM »
If I sell any its at least 150 a cord, but all softwoods.  I cant compete with the tweakers cutting 24/7 and selling for 75-100 a cord.
same.  i have bought it from them when i ran out and got a call for wood from a friend in need though. 
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« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2021, 07:12:00 PM »
I live in rural Nova Scotia, about 45 minutes outside of down town Halifax (our largest and only city in the province). I can sell softwood (spruce, balsam fir, aspen, eastern larch) firewood for $200/cord picked up by the customer and hardwood (red maple) for $250/cord picked up by the customer. I do 15-20 cords per year.

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« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2021, 01:12:09 PM »
It's all in the Marketing. :D




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« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2021, 01:43:51 PM »
Yup, she'll make authentic 'natural' smoke. Natural is the key to big bucks. :D
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« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2021, 02:27:42 PM »
I get $8.09 for the organic smoke.   Pallet nails are complimentary.. The iron helps give a shiny mane and promotes healthy gums and cuticles. 


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« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2021, 04:33:16 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2021, 03:17:24 PM »
We buy our logs, then block and split and stack. Once dry, we sell it. And we have a kiln for those who want guaranteed dry firewood. We sell a stacked cord, not a log cord. There's a difference. Takes about an extra 12% to 15% logs to make a stacked cord. So an 18 wheeler of logs delivered being 16 cords, we get just near about 14 cords once split and stacked.

Each week the prices are updated based on fuel prices change overnight Thursday's. We're in rural Nova Scotia as well. Plenty of people selling in the last 1-1/2 years. Most seem to be selling for $225 delivered for one cord. We did that for a while and quickly realized you're working for pennies. This past year we were selling seasoned for $250 delivered locally, no matter how much they bought. Again, tracking expenses and time, come to realize we were losing again. So the prices are now like shown below, prices include delivery and taxes.

Delivery is the biggest expense. Yet some people don't mind, they just want dry wood. Biggest sale to date this year was a guy paid us $855 for one cord of kiln dried hardwood delivered to his cottage, it was a 6 hr round trip.

So I don't begrudge others for selling at $225. They can have that share of the marketplace. We're as busy as we want to be.




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« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2021, 04:12:21 PM »
Jim
Good accounting for figuring selling price. 

What is the difference in moisture content between your "seasoned" and "kiln dried" firewood?
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« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2021, 05:09:05 PM »
Jim
Good accounting for figuring selling price.

What is the difference in moisture content between your "seasoned" and "kiln dried" firewood?
Air dried seasoned we class as logs that have been cut for minimum one year and then split stacked for minimum 4 months. Usually by that time the wood is at about 30% MC.  For kiln dried, I generally take it down to about 20-25% average (Nyle L200 kiln using 4 probes for samples buried in the stacks).  Some clients have backyard pizza ovens and they request the wood be down to 15%.
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« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2021, 05:29:30 PM »
pallets on skate platforms?  
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« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2021, 05:56:55 PM »
pallets on skate platforms?  
Platform trolley holds two crates. 


 
The wheels look like this.


 

 
Each trolley has 4 wheels. Two wheels roll on 90 angle iron. The other two roll on flat stock steel.
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« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2021, 08:04:51 PM »
Neat.  


I built my chainsaw sawmill thingy similar. One side is groove rollers and the other just flat.  Works fine. 
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« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2021, 08:24:59 PM »
Jim, real neat drying system you got there!  About how long to dry a batch?  Can you fit 4 cord a time in the kiln?

We sell 95% green wood. Most deliveries are within 10 miles, a few are 15-20. All sales are full cords (128 cu. ft loosely stacked) that are processed into a dump trailer(s).  Prices (delivery included) for new customers are - $165 a cord camp wood (soft wood 18in lengths), $250 a cord green hardwood, and for the 3 cord of 16in long wood we cut split, stacked last fall, that'll go for $350 a cord after Thanksgiving.

Our most popular length is 16in. We won't cut shorter than 14.5in lengths (it's a pain and the processor doesn't like short pieces). We also do a lot of 18in and 22in wood. I'd love to do more seasoned wood, but the green is my bread and butter and it's less work to just process into the trailer and dump vs stack it, dry it, then reload...but I do like the extra $$$ for seasoned ;D
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« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2021, 10:07:32 AM »
Jim, real neat drying system you got there!  About how long to dry a batch?  Can you fit 4 cord a time in the kiln?

We sell 95% green wood. Most deliveries are within 10 miles, a few are 15-20. All sales are full cords (128 cu. ft loosely stacked) that are processed into a dump trailer(s).  Prices (delivery included) for new customers are - $165 a cord camp wood (soft wood 18in lengths), $250 a cord green hardwood, and for the 3 cord of 16in long wood we cut split, stacked last fall, that'll go for $350 a cord after Thanksgiving.

Our most popular length is 16in. We won't cut shorter than 14.5in lengths (it's a pain and the processor doesn't like short pieces). We also do a lot of 18in and 22in wood. I'd love to do more seasoned wood, but the green is my bread and butter and it's less work to just process into the trailer and dump vs stack it, dry it, then reload...but I do like the extra $$$ for seasoned ;D
Currently fit 2 cord. Could probably fit 3 cord if we used taller crates but then it comes down to mechanics of moving the platform with 2/3rd cord on it. Simply math says that's 2500lb (or 1150kg). A lot of weight for the two of use to handle. I have a cable system in place to pull using the winch but its not perfect. Actually I made the kiln too small, its a tight fit. Ideally the bldg should be 2ft wider. But i was trying to stay under the municipal bylaws for bldg permits. Can't use sawmilled lumber for bldg with permit unless its stamped. Which it isn't. Trying to build on a budget.
Agreed, green wood is the product that could keep a person busy. No handling, right into a trailer and off you go. But there's so many here doing that for such a small amount, we decided to focus on an area of the market that are willing to pay more. As it turns out, we work less and make more. Not a bad deal.
Length of time to dry has a few variables, like time of year, and how green the wood is. Kiln drying frozen wood in Feb or Mar takes twice as long as it does in the summer. Doesn't matter if its green or seasoned. That's due mostly to the fact that the wood has to get up to 125F to really get the water flowing. The dehumidifier will start dripping at about 88F though.
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« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2021, 10:27:55 AM »
Yep nothing like nanny state regulation to help out average joe blow. Got a housing shortage, people being kicked out of campers and sheds they’re living in because nothing else. I forget where it was in the states but someone here was saying you could build whatever without it being stamped  so long as that wood was cut off that land. Seems like a good system to have. Not sure how we got here but, here we are.


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