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Re: please help...hire orester or not?
« Reply #240 on: August 05, 2021, 10:04:13 AM »
So for gits and shiggles i called the tie mill i know best from my adventures in high graded timber.  

W/O and R/O switch tie have gone from 450 and 400 to 550 and 500 respectively.  She said prices are going up next week because theyre empty, theyve only sawn 3 weeks this summer and only have 2 weeks of wood.  The two mills are short by 18 crew members and only one can run at a time with the crew they have.  Between old loggers retiring and a few weeks of rain it is looking dire.  There is a part of me thinking i better contribute a trailer load of logs to help keep them afloat or i will regret it later.  That can buy me poles and high tensile wire before it goes up.

They stayed running all through covid.  Weather was all that altered production, not sickness.  Now the entire state or tennessee is having a huge phantom leap in cases but its all BS.  Everyone knows everyone in the rural south.  We hear about the slightest minutia in peoples lives and theres not one so n so got the covid story on the grapevine.  
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« Reply #241 on: August 05, 2021, 09:05:11 PM »
I have nothing to really contribute other than I just read this entire thread!😂

But, I appreciate that Rank has taken his time and asked lots of questions from lots of people. He learned a lot along the way that can only be a benefit to him in the future. 
I do what the little voices in my wife's head tell me to do.

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« Reply #242 on: September 04, 2021, 09:08:01 PM »
Depends how many other fish are in these loggers seas. If they have other prospective jobs I imagine theyll give up. Ive had landowners tell me for that price Ill cut em up myself. Makes me laugh every time. Never once has that happened.  Only had a few try never had ANY succeed or finish. Ive found the jobs that Ive fought the hardest for I wish Id have let em go. Just get put through the ringer and no PROFIT to show for it. 

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« Reply #243 on: September 04, 2021, 09:54:44 PM »
Ive alwYs believed in trusting  your gut. That goes for both parties in a timber sale: logger AND landowner 
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« Reply #244 on: September 07, 2021, 03:06:29 PM »
I am a landowner who  has been managing and harvesting my 50 acres of pine, oak and hemlock for 35 years and have always sold direct to the mills.
.85/bd ft seems like a decent price for stumpage if the stumpage count is accurate.
I only get .30-.40/bd ft for white pine and hemlock sawlogs and maybe .60/bd ft for red oak and that is direct and I still make a profit after trucking and sawing expenses.

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« Reply #245 on: September 16, 2021, 01:11:58 PM »
I like loggers and used to be one. 
They typically don't know anything silviculture. 
Foresters know a lot about it, so the smart thing to do is hire one if it is your land and you are going to stay there. 
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« Reply #246 on: September 16, 2021, 04:10:09 PM »
He will not get .85 a ft stumpage across the board if scale is accurate unless is good hard maple  white oak or walnut . Not much else pays that well up here. But if your getting paid for every other tree cut then I can see it . If your cutting by good forestry in ontario so that means your also cutting the junk and you do not get to cut the best as its left to grow you should average .50 per ft stumpage so about $1000 to $1500 an acre is pretty average here . If you cut more trees per acre then you will not be able to come back and log again in 10 years


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