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Chainsaw Protection Boots
« on: June 26, 2021, 10:16:25 PM »
Chainsaw protection boots have been a topic of concern to some people so I thought I'd do a thread and include some products we have found.  I distinguish chainsaw protection boots as those that offer some degree of cut protection.  They should also have steel toes as chainsaws cut right through composite toes .  Composites are great for crush protection in the winter but not much use for chainsawing.   There are lots of great safety boots out there these are just niche.

Haix- purchase online or via a reseller.  Three versions make the cut the protector prime, the protector ultra, and airpower xr 200.  $310-365.  I've worn them for 2 years and can comment a bit.  Mine fell apart after less than a year, separating between soles and uppers near the toes.  Replaced on warranty but did again.  Others have had the same issue.  Comfortable enough though.  Warranty was honored with no fuss.  Very bright Euro colors, good for woods but not so good showing up at an old farmers hourse.  Fire Fighter Boots | EMS Boots | Law Enforcement Boots | HAIX Bootstore


Labonville - Our newest boots and it was a surprise to me to find they offered a cut proof boot in traditional leather finish with a loggers boot heel.  Fairly comfortable.  Hard to keep waterproofed.  Not falling apart after about a year of use.  $290 which is still expensive but a bit less.  

8" Kevlar / Poly Steel-Toe Boot


I have not worn these but came across when searching:  

https://www.us.arbortec.com/collections/class-2

It is a chainsaw boot made by arbortec    .  I think that these offer the highest protection, the haix are Class 1 I believe and these are Class 2.  Not sure the class rating on the labonville.  One advantage of these would be that they offer greater color choice, still Euro bright but also more traditional colors.  They also offer a class 3 boot which must be a bit like chaps on the boots.  I'd be very interested if any forum members had tried any arbortec boots.   Vendors are offering the boots for the same price range as upper end Haix.  


Stihl 
Stihl offers a performance forestry boot that has cut proof protection.  I cannot find out if it has a steel or composite toe.  Listed on website for $299.  I guess a stihl reseller would sell you a pair.  


Phanner 

Several users have the Phanner chainsaw pants, we like them but they do get dinged up in the woods and we had to replace after a year.  Still, we like the pants.  

https://pfannercanada.ca/product-category/footwear/boots-shoes/

These are the boots.  Bright?  wow...sunglasses needed.  Very pricy for the 2 class 1 protection boots but they also offer class 2 for a bit more.  More heel than the Haix, I'd be interested in trying a pair on but not so much that'd I'd order and have to go through the returns.  


I'll post some more later.  Just thought folks should know there are a few choices.

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Re: Chainsaw Protection Boots
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2021, 09:08:09 AM »
Good topic, NW!

Im on my second pair of chainsaw boots so I can offer limited insight.

Of the 6 pairs of Haix Airpower in the shop all of them have experienced the same failure between the leather upper and the rubber sole. Fairly comfortable boot and I would gladly have bought them again if it werent for that little (or big!) problem.  

I switched to the SwedePro kevlar chainsaw boots. Very much a traditional logging boot style with some kevlar stitched in. They look very similar to your Labonville boots. I forget what level of chainsaw protection it has but there is also a steel toe in it. Very comfortable and they appear built to last. Im only about 3 months into this pair but so far so good.

There are several varieties (Arbortec Scafell lite, Arbpro Andrew Cervino, Pfanner Sirius, and possibly the Haix Protector Prime) that cosmetically look slightly different but I think are all the same boot. There are currently 2 or 3 pairs of those running around the shop but they havent been used for very long so I dont know how they will hold up. 

If I had to recommend a boot right now I think it would be the SwedePro/Labonville boots. 

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Re: Chainsaw Protection Boots
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2021, 03:18:39 PM »
The Haix XR200 boots are class 1 chainsaw protection. They are also a leather boot with a traditional look. These are also the most comfortable work boots I have ever owned. They are as comfortable as the best pair of hiking/backpacking boots I have ever owned. I've had a pair of these for about 6 years now, and have not experienced any problems with the sole separation others have reported. (I do avoid drying them by the fire in colder weather. I had a pair of hiking boots which experienced sole separation which I'm told was caused by warming my feet and the bots by the fire.) These can be resoled by Haix

The Haix Protector Ultra and the Protector Prime are both Class 2 chainsaw cut protection. I've never owned a pair, but am considering the Ultra for my next pair of boots (The Ultra has 8" uppers. The 9" height on the primes is taller than I want to go.) I've had such good luck with the XR200 boots, I figured I'd give the Ultras a shot. Has anyone had the sole separation issues with the Prime or Ultra boots, or is it just the XR200 with that issue. (Haix does not resole these Vibram-soled boots.)

Haix does have factory sales from time to time. They also sell factory seconds (with cosmetic defects) for about 25% discount, when available.

Labonville makes some great stuff. However, the Labonville boot does not seem to have any certification for chainsaw cut protection - at least not that I've found in the description. They are also available only in a EE width - not an option for me, since I wear a C width boot.

I was not aware that Pfanner sold chainsaw boots. Some of them (including a couple with class 2 protection) are fairly reasonably priced. I'll have to check them out. I just wish there was a dealer near me so I could try them on (same goes for their chainsaw chaps/pants - I'd like to lay eyes on them before I buy.)
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Re: Chainsaw Protection Boots
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2021, 06:52:17 PM »
Even though they come with a hefty price tag and don't have the greatest longevity, Haix protector primes are the most comfortable boots I've ever worn. XR 200s were a close second.  I've never tried the other boots NW listed but I've worn every Red Wing Georgia Thorogood etc and they don't come close to Haix comfortability. My local cobbler can resole the protector primes for about $130 (Haix won't resole PPs) so to me it's worth paying a premium to be comfortable. I've heard there's some HIGH dollar boots out there ($500 or more) that last longer than a year and are very comfortable but I've yet to try any of those

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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2021, 06:56:43 PM »
Coop - How long have you had your Protector Prime boots, and how have they been holding up?
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2021, 08:03:48 PM »
Coop - How long have you had your Protector Prime boots, and how have they been holding up?
I've had them 7 months, they are doing pretty good by Haix standards. The sole has plenty of tread left but it is begining to separate slightly on the inside of the left boot, towards the front on the arch. That started happening around month 3, I sent a picture to Haix and they sent me a new pair within two weeks free of charge. The speration is minimal and doesn't effect the performance of the boot in any way. I wore XR200s for 4 years before I got the primes and I was lucky to get 8 months per pair out of them. I don't think you could ever accuse Haix of making a durable product, but show me a more comfortable boot that lasts longer

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Re: Chainsaw Protection Boots
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2021, 08:36:19 PM »
Coop - do you log professionally, so you are using the boots full time, or just occasional use.

I'm not logging professionally, but my boots are out working in the woods far more than any of the other landowners I know in my area. I'm not sure why I've had such good luck with them when others have had issues. My six years of part-time use probably adds up to 1.5 to 2 years of 40 hr/week use.

I did have some Merrill low-cut hikers (not for chainsaw use) that were constantly coming apart. I could barely get a year out of them. I kept buying them because they fit me well. Finally heard that Merrill had some known issues with their adhesive. They seem to have resolved it, since my current pair is 2 years old and doing very well.
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Re: Chainsaw Protection Boots
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2021, 08:44:34 PM »
I'm hoping Haix has figured their adhesive out, too. I think I'm at about a year on my current XR200's and the sole hasn't seperated yet👍 They fit well and are a sturdy boot, but I don't find them overly comfortable (they are very stiff). One question, does the Kevlar cover the composite toe cap making the material a moot point? I keep buying them because they check all of the boxes for me. Chainsaw cut protection, safety toe, uninsulated, AND Gore-tex waterproof. If I'm paying $300 for boots I want all of those, and if I can get two years out of them I'm satisfied.
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2021, 05:48:48 AM »
Coop - do you log professionally, so you are using the boots full time, or just occasional use.

I'm not logging professionally, but my boots are out working in the woods far more than any of the other landowners I know in my area. I'm not sure why I've had such good luck with them when others have had issues. My six years of part-time use probably adds up to 1.5 to 2 years of 40 hr/week use.

I did have some Merrill low-cut hikers that were constantly coming apart. I could barely get a year out of them. I kept buying them because they fit me well. Finally heard that Merrill had some known issues with their adhesive. They seem to have resolved it, since my current pair is 2 years old and doing very well.
I work for a land clearing company so any given day I'm truck driving equipment operating and cutting timber. I used to cut timber full time and that was when I was only getting 8 months out of my XR200s

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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2021, 07:12:13 AM »
For what you guys pay for those boots I sure as heck wouldnt be buying another set. My calked boots are Wesco they have 5 years of full time falling use and still kicking do they have all the fancy features of the euro boots no. Can they have a safety or steel toe yes and some guys put on Kevlar on the outside, but remember thats a last line of defense if youre cutting into your boots you guys should look at how you handle a saw. 

These old girls are a spring heel Wesco calked boot for timber use as you can see the toes are curled from years of working low something Im not sure you could do with a safety toe or not. That said a lot of the ground Ive been around use to require safety toes now they dont theyre a hazard to the guy wearing if something falls on your foot well wearing steel toes you can loose your toes.

 

 Block Heel Nicks loggers these arent a saw boot theyre a good equipment/truck driving boot once broken in

 

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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2021, 11:20:45 AM »
if youre cutting into your boots you guys should look at how you handle a saw.


The same could be said about chaps. I've never even nicked my chaps or my boots. I still wear them, because no one plans to have an accident.
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2021, 11:26:41 AM »
For what you guys pay for those boots I sure as heck wouldnt be buying another set. My calked boots are Wesco they have 5 years of full time falling use and still kicking do they have all the fancy features of the euro boots no. Can they have a safety or steel toe yes and some guys put on Kevlar on the outside, but remember thats a last line of defense if youre cutting into your boots you guys should look at how you handle a saw.

These old girls are a spring heel Wesco calked boot for timber use as you can see the toes are curled from years of working low something Im not sure you could do with a safety toe or not. That said a lot of the ground Ive been around use to require safety toes now they dont theyre a hazard to the guy wearing if something falls on your foot well wearing steel toes you can loose your toes.
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 Block Heel Nicks loggers these arent a saw boot theyre a good equipment/truck driving boot once broken in
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Just checked out Nicks website, those boots do look pretty tempting and if ya get 5 years out of them they are definitely worth the money. Personally I wear Haix for comfort, as far as the chainsaw protection goes I have the same thoughts as you on that subject, although I will say cutting hardwoods on the East Coast we tend to chase a lot of low stumps and if you bore cut and are lazy/careless/tired but I'll just cut this one last tree and call it a day, you tend to put yourself in more situations where hitting your feet is a possibility. I have yet to test Haix chainsaw proofing as of yet

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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2021, 01:39:02 PM »
I think we stand a lot more of a chance cutting our feet with the 18-24" bars we run in the east. Comparing West coast practice to pretty much anywhere else in the U.S. is apples to oranges really. I mean, Skean's shorty bar is a 28", I don't think that at 6'5" I could even run that thing across my toes😁
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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2021, 01:59:32 PM »
For what you guys pay for those boots I sure as heck wouldnt be buying another set. My calked boots are Wesco they have 5 years of full time falling use and still kicking do they have all the fancy features of the euro boots no. Can they have a safety or steel toe yes and some guys put on Kevlar on the outside, but remember thats a last line of defense if youre cutting into your boots you guys should look at how you handle a saw.

These old girls are a spring heel Wesco calked boot for timber use as you can see the toes are curled from years of working low something Im not sure you could do with a safety toe or not. That said a lot of the ground Ive been around use to require safety toes now they dont theyre a hazard to the guy wearing if something falls on your foot well wearing steel toes you can loose your toes.
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 Block Heel Nicks loggers these arent a saw boot theyre a good equipment/truck driving boot once broken in
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Just checked out Nicks website, those boots do look pretty tempting and if ya get 5 years out of them they are definitely worth the money. Personally I wear Haix for comfort, as far as the chainsaw protection goes I have the same thoughts as you on that subject, although I will say cutting hardwoods on the East Coast we tend to chase a lot of low stumps and if you bore cut and are lazy/careless/tired but I'll just cut this one last tree and call it a day, you tend to put yourself in more situations where hitting your feet is a possibility. I have yet to test Haix chainsaw proofing as of yet
5 years is nothing most guys go a lot longer on boots. As far as comfort goes nothing beats a custom set of boots Ive done the Danners and whites off the shelf boots they would kill my back/knees.
Are your feet in anymore danger then what we do walking down the log limbing and sometimes bucking well standing on the log still? 

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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2021, 06:14:16 PM »
Yes, when you are tripping around limbing the smaller stems from the ground that we contend with.
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« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2021, 09:16:35 AM »
These old girls are a spring heel Wesco calked boot for timber use as you can see the toes are curled from years of working low something I’m not sure you could do with a safety toe or not. That said a lot of the ground I’ve been around use to require safety toes now they don’t they’re a hazard to the guy wearing if something falls on your foot well wearing steel toes you can loose your toes.
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Canada West boots makes a similar boot. Model 14366. You can't buy direct unless in their outlet in Winnipeg. $350 at Leather King, no steel toe. Pricey? Not really for a Canadian made leather boot. A pair of hike boot sis $300.

Viking boots is what I wear though, thinning and chainsaw work, with chaulk bottom, kevlar. They are about $290, model 69. Need water proof because softwood back east here grows on wet ground, unless plantation on an old field.


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Re: Chainsaw Protection Boots
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2021, 09:59:35 AM »
I was looking at these from STC - but they have composite toes which made me shy away. I too believe a steel toe is much more protection than a composite toe - especially for my typical usage bucking firewood logs off a pile.

How does a composite toe achieve a chainsaw protection rating?

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« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2021, 08:51:24 PM »
Does anyone have experience with the
steel toe covers??

Seem like a good solution



 

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« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2021, 10:43:25 PM »
A few years ago, I broke a bone in the arch of my foot, so I picked up some of the Pfanner Matterhorns.  They are very stiff to protect my arch, super comfortable, but pretty heavy.  They seem to be holding up well, but I'm no pro, so they definitely don't get used every day, more like a couple days per month.

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Re: Chainsaw Protection Boots
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2021, 05:34:21 AM »
Does anyone have experience with the
steel toe covers??

Seem like a good solution
Too much :D  We had a rule that nobody was allowed in the steel room (stock storage area where raw material was cut for jobs) without steel toes. Composite toes didn't count. So when I wanted to go check stock, or troubleshoot one of the machines in there I had to put those 'clap-traps' on. I hated them. Made you sound like a Clydesdale walling on a cobblestone road. We also required metatarsal covers in there, so the folks assigned there would get the proper boots (company paid), but temp folks hade to use the strap-on variety. They flop around a lot. I am not a fan. But if you need them, you need them.
 The last couple of weeks I have been felling and limbing a lot of small trees and found that quite often as I walked up the tree clearing limbs, I lost track of my feet and would have to hesitate and move my feet so I could figure out where they were in relation to the bar tip. There were a couple of times I popped a limb off only to find my foot right underneath it. It made me work a bit more careful going forward keeping in mind where my feet were, or might be.
 Also did this a couple of weeks ago just testing a saw after adjustment.
 

 
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