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Re: Im in another pickle with Big Bob
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2021, 09:22:48 PM »
Just by chance I discovered that putting degreaser into a silver fire extinguisher and adding air pressure will get the degreaser to foam like there is no tomorrow. Gets into more crevices and sticks to the machine really well. 
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Re: Im in another pickle with Big Bob
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2021, 02:18:04 AM »
Bruno.

There is a cover opposite the pump, with 4 screws, iirc something like 3/8 or 1/2 head.

Then under there the gear, with 3 screws, pretty sure it's 3/8, or 10mm.  There is a metal piece behind,kind of a wafer,  with a half moon key. If you're lucky, the replacement pump will come with it. And then you have no timing to do. Put the mark on the block and the mark on the pump in line, and it works straight out of the box. Well, on my crane, it was pretty easy, as i have plenty of room there, unlike the starter!
I have done two on a turbo AT4.236 on my crane. And one on a non turbo A4.236 which i sold.

It looks pretty much like this. My timing cover was different.



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Re: Im in another pickle with Big Bob
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2021, 02:22:58 AM »
Here, just bellow the oil feed tube.

I miss playing with engines! But not the engines on my equipment! 

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Re: Im in another pickle with Big Bob
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2021, 07:14:58 AM »
Doing a pump job for the first time is a gamble. I had a diesel mechanic come in and do mine on the 1044.
If you are off on the timing a little it will not run right. And you will be into it again. I cut lumber, I let the mechanic do his thing and I do mine. It cost $$$$ but if it's not right the mechanic will have to come back to fix it on his time.

For me, a bobcat at a sawmill is a waste of time. A lull with the reach of 30' in front of you can be priceless, lift 10,0000 lb and put it where you want.


 

 
 
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Re: Im in another pickle with Big Bob
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2021, 06:07:54 PM »
PS.Don't buy a cat anything. :D

 
This is what junk looks like going down the road, :-X
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Re: Im in another pickle with Big Bob
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2021, 06:08:49 AM »
The 873 ,  found one more hose in the bottom.
Up to 3 now  ;) 
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Re: Im in another pickle with Big Bob
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2021, 06:58:31 AM »
And just think how many kids pay to go to tech school.  All you need to do is buy a machine and the education will commence!
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« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2021, 08:01:43 AM »
I'm glad I'm learning
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Re: Im in another pickle with Big Bob
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2021, 11:15:35 AM »
 smiley_thumbsup

think positive.  long term stress and negativity will run you down and wreck your health.  walk away as needed. 
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« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2021, 03:05:31 PM »
Seems like you been pretty busy for quite some time. Why donít you replace it instead of jacking around with something constantly breaking down 🤷‍♂️

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Re: Im in another pickle with Big Bob
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2021, 04:42:23 PM »
Seems like you been pretty busy for quite some time. Why donít you replace it instead of jacking around with something constantly breaking down 🤷‍♂️
I'm working on some business deals that will add to my sawing. I'm going to have to invest in a couple more pieces of sawing equipment for that.
Big Bob will have to wait.
I want a small wheel loader .
I will need to save much more money. 
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Re: Im in another pickle with Big Bob
« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2021, 04:48:56 PM »
Big Bob has a high lifting capacity which put you into big money .
I'm not sure if any new skid steers that lift that much.
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« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2021, 04:55:50 PM »
Bob lifts 3,700 and has a 7,200 tipping 
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Re: Im in another pickle with Big Bob
« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2021, 06:41:44 PM »
A few wheeled machines and plenty of tracked machines that will lift that much weight and more. And do it more reliably than a 30+ year old used up piece of construction equipment.

I'm all for running old iron but when you need it to earn a living you need something that is ready to go anytime and earn its keep.

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Re: Im in another pickle with Big Bob
« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2021, 07:00:03 PM »
really guys?  3 hoses and you tell him buy a new machine?  like that wont needed hoses and starters over time ?

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Re: Im in another pickle with Big Bob
« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2021, 07:10:20 PM »
Aren't the hoses on an 873 that hes borrowing or renting because his old 974? is down?

Its one thing after another. Must be something going on if the starter bolts are an ongoing issue. Talking about an injector pump? Injectors? List goes on.

When you make money sawing lumber. If you have to stop sawing to be a mechanic, or because you can't load logs, or load customers, etc then you are pi$$ing away money 2x (cost of repairs and lost revenue). 



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Re: Im in another pickle with Big Bob
« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2021, 07:14:34 PM »
He mentioned buying a new motor for it. New windows. Building a door. Adding heat. 

All of that into an old machine that is probably one major part away from being obsolete or in need of re-engineering because of unavailable parts.

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« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2021, 07:20:54 PM »
you might be right about the hoses for borrowed machine.. ive been skimming.  

i figure if he could afford another machine we wouldnt be having these discussions in the first place.  hed have posted a thread called help me spend my money.  not help me fix my machine. 
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Re: Im in another pickle with Big Bob
« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2021, 07:27:47 PM »
He needs a wheel loader of whatever vintage he can afford. Skid steer is a major compromise to begin with. 

Two paths to success;

1. Run with no debt and pay cash.
2. Run with debt on equipment that is new enough to run.

People with exceptional mechanical skills can cut a few corners but unless you own all your stuff outright you best be working with it and not on it.

You have the orders to pump out $1k a day in sales; a 2k a month payment on a machine that lets you run every day is not an expense. Its a must especially if you have an employee and a sawmill payment. A starter here, a few hoses there, 10 gallons of hydro fluid and 3 lost days of production pays for a brand new wheel loader that you are building equity in not mention filling orders as promised. People understand your loader broke down but they remember that they lost time when the item wasn't delivered as promised.










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Re: Im in another pickle with Big Bob
« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2021, 07:32:40 PM »
Aren't the hoses on an 873 that hes borrowing or renting because his old 974? is down?

Its one thing after another. Must be something going on if the starter bolts are an ongoing issue. Talking about an injector pump? Injectors? List goes on.

When you make money sawing lumber. If you have to stop sawing to be a mechanic, or because you can't load logs, or load customers, etc then you are pi$$ing away money 2x (cost of repairs and lost revenue).
All valid points Sir
The 873 is my friends machine it's very used up.
It broke down in my use and I will fix it.
I don't like throwing money at Big Bob for that one reason , some part won't be available. 
I know it's just a matter of time.
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