Timbco 415ex??

[Firewoodjoe]

Still looking into a harvester on and off. I don’t think it will pay but everyone here makes it work. Anyways. 2005 Sisu engine. Good? Bad? Parts through Komatsu I assume? 

[chevytaHOE5674]

Nothing bad about the Sisu motors. They are owned by Agco and used in various tractors and other equipment so parts shouldn't be a concern.

What head?

[Firewoodjoe]

Fabtek 4 roller. The machine is actually much nicer than I expected for the hours. 35,000 but a lot has been done in the last 3 years. New engine and newer head. Every 4 roller I’ve looked at even low hour cat 501s are busted up. This isn’t. It looks to be just starting in places as the paint is cracked. But hasn’t been fixed anywheres. The machines showes zero problems. I couldn’t find anything loose or worn. Pins and bushing are prolly 75-80% and I’d put the drive sprockets at 50%. All hoses look the be fairly new. It was being used daily. They updated to a 501. 

[mike_belben]

Thats some impressive hours.

[Firewoodjoe]

It sure is. But is a high hour machine in good shape with papers to show replacements better or worse than a 10,000-15,000 hr machine with mostly original components. The wear parts have already been replaced. Tight and right is tight and right no matter the hours. I’m I wrong? I don’t know. Like I said I was quit surprised at the condition with the hours it has. I’ve look at 2014s with 3-4,000 hours in worse shape. And 3 times the money. 

[mike_belben]

Its hard to say whether any machine will be a cherry or a lemon. Who can know?

[Corley5]

There's a reason it's for sale.

[Firewoodjoe]

There's a reason it's for sale.

Isn’t everything for sale for a reason? 

[Firewoodjoe]

Besides it must have been a good one. That’s a full work week all it’s life. Not much down time. 

[chevytaHOE5674]

Or a lot of double shifting after down time. Ran 2 20k+ hour processors, and a 40k+ hour forwarder. All three ran daily but required a good bit of TLC and tinkering to keep running. 

[Corley5]

I wouldn't touch a 35,000 hour processor with a 20 foot pole.  I don't care how it's been cared for.  Do you want to produce wood or wrench on an old processor?  That's enough hours that metal fatigue in the super structure would be a concern.

[Skeans1]

Has the rotax been placed in the head and the carrier? Personally with that high of hours I wouldn’t touch it, if the welds are done right you’d never tell the difference. With those hours I’d be willing to be the boom has been repaired. I’d check on valve as well as pump parts for availability as well.

[chevytaHOE5674]

If its the one at Lutkes for 75k you can get one with a whole lot less hours for the same money. I think Kip at Pat's Heavy Equipment has a couple with Rolly IIs for around that prices with a whole lot less hours.

From experience there is no such things as a "cheap" processor. There's expensive low hour sit and produce equipment and "cheap" wrench on it and pray you can produce equipment. 

[Firewoodjoe]

I understand. But some of you guys say “how many years will your body handle hand cutting” then you say “don’t buy a cheap processor” so what’s left, rob a bank  i don’t have rich people to help me or anything

[barbender]

You don't want to start out in an old processor like that. It would be one thing if you had grown old together, and you knew it's quirks. But even then, it gets to the point you are paying more for parts than payments on a newer one, not to mention the lost production. That thing will wreck you.

[Firewoodjoe]

If its the one at Lutkes for 75k you can get one with a whole lot less hours for the same money. I think Kip at Pat's Heavy Equipment has a couple with Rolly IIs for around that prices with a whole lot less hours.

From experience there is no such things as a "cheap" processor. There's expensive low hour sit and produce equipment and "cheap" wrench on it and pray you can produce equipment.

So that ‘07 with 8100 hours would be safer? The way I look at that is it must have sat around a lot if those hours are accurate and if it is accurate than it most likely has all original components. So in the next 2-4,000 hours I may put a lot of major parts into. Already needs under carriage. And I bet if it was looked at in person it’s got problems. I don’t know what the answer is but I do know I’ve seen low hour headaches. Past 10,000 hours there all the same. And “bad infrastructure” well my equipment should fold right up then 😂 Thanks guys prolly keep looking and saving. 

[mike_belben]

I understand. But some of you guys say “how many years will your body handle hand cutting” then you say “don’t buy a cheap processor” so what’s left, rob a bank i don’t have rich people to help me or anything

Its a catch 22 isnt it?  Buy the machines to save your body, then work 10 extra years to finance it and not lose your collateral.
The banks sure have it figured out. 

[chevytaHOE5674]

When your looking in that price range they all have problems. Just a matter of how minor or major. Personally I'd rather do an undercarriage over say chasing down a glitchy measuring system, or resealing pumps and valve bodies.

Personally I'd never buy a fabtek 4 roller on anything. If going fixed head it would be a logmax 7000 or possibly a Rolly 2. Then again I'd probably never buy a fixed head tracked carrier either.

[Corley5]

Roll the dice.

[teakwood]

If its the one at Lutkes for 75k you can get one with a whole lot less hours for the same money. I think Kip at Pat's Heavy Equipment has a couple with Rolly IIs for around that prices with a whole lot less hours.

From experience there is no such things as a "cheap" processor. There's expensive low hour sit and produce equipment and "cheap" wrench on it and pray you can produce equipment.

So that ‘07 with 8100 hours would be safer? The way I look at that is it must have sat around a lot if those hours are accurate and if it is accurate than it most likely has all original components. So in the next 2-4,000 hours I may put a lot of major parts into. Already needs under carriage. And I bet if it was looked at in person it’s got problems. I don’t know what the answer is but I do know I’ve seen low hour headaches. Past 10,000 hours there all the same. And “bad infrastructure” well my equipment should fold right up then 😂 Thanks guys prolly keep looking and saving.

the 07 with 8100h isn't safer. after 8000h every machine starts giving troubles and things to tinker on. very valid points from every member here, you have some good points too!
the problem with 35k hours is that every component that hasn't been changed could start to give problems, even metal parts and original welds. every seal, oring, retainer, hose, slewing bearing, the list goes on and on.
My excavator has 8k hours but 21 years old, after sitting for 2years i had to attend several problems, i was already looking for never machines because it was one thing after another. now i fixed everything and she works again as a beauty she is, but i don't fool myself, a 20+ year old machine will sooner or later give me problems again