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Author Topic: FORD 860 Tractor 6V or 12V & Other tractor Questions  (Read 10032 times)

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Re: FORD 860 Tractor 6V or 12V & Other tractor Questions
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2005, 01:25:19 AM »
Last winter when I rebuilt my tractor I rewired it and put a new generator and voltage regulator on it.  I like to NEVER have figured out how it all worked. . John Deer 3020 diesel. The charging system consists of Two twelve volt batteries giving  24 volt  negative ground to the starter............... and splits 12 volt negative ground to half of the  electrics and lights........... and 12 volt positive ground the the other half.    Whoever figured that out in the beginning HAD to have been out of their mind, and it like to run ME out of my mind rewiring and trouble shooting it. 
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Re: FORD 860 Tractor 6V or 12V & Other tractor Questions
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2005, 12:52:03 PM »
Corely,
Up close I think it'll lift 3,000 - 4,000 lbs.  It'll lift to about 6'

Shoot, I was hoping somone would point out a magic hole that I hadn't seen yet.
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Re: FORD 860 Tractor 6V or 12V & Other tractor Questions
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2005, 11:52:37 AM »
Finally found out where to put the oil.  There's a crank Breather cap, then a post to mount the cap to.  This post slips into a tube that goes into the block.  A bit of hammering and I got the top popped off.

Oh, FYI, don't connet the ampmeter (-) to ground....
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Re: FORD 860 Tractor 6V or 12V & Other tractor Questions
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2005, 09:18:42 PM »
I'm in the middle of switching the ol' 841 Ford from 6 to 12 and could use some help.  The 1 page paperwork that came with it lists 2 wires that aren't even there.  Schematic is lame, etc.   So what's the theory of alternators vs. generators? ???

Do I still use the old voltage regulator from the 6 V ?  Or is that built into the  alternator?  Does the old voltage reg . now act as a connector that's important?   Or can it come out? ???

How does the alternator recharge the battery? Does it flow back thru the system? Thru the solenoid?

There's 2 wires supposed to go to an ammeter.  I have no ammeter on the tractor tho' I do have a charging light.  Is that the "in-lieu " ammeter?  Do I just hook the 2 wires together?  or tape them off? ???

What's the theory of pos ground vs.neg grnd?  6 vs 12v. ?? ???

 The reason I'm doing it is improved cranking in cold.  PLUS  I can run a winch off of 12v. 8)

By the way, The oil fill is usually where the breather cap is on the old tractors.  Front right on mine...........Pull up the cap off the tube.... so look for a tube about 1" in diameter. 8)

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Re: FORD 860 Tractor 6V or 12V & Other tractor Questions
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2005, 10:36:29 PM »
What brand is the alternator?  6 volt regulator will have to go.

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Re: FORD 860 Tractor 6V or 12V & Other tractor Questions
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2005, 06:25:25 AM »
Paperwork says Sparex.  I'll check the unit itself and post.
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Re: FORD 860 Tractor 6V or 12V & Other tractor Questions
« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2021, 07:29:33 PM »
You should add oil on the right side by pulling the breather cap; if memory serves me right.  I used to run 1960 861. that tractor was a beast. I love those old fords. I converted mine to 12 volts it was pretty easy. But I ended up doing a complete rewire to eliminate all the old farmer fixes. After that, she would sit all winter and still have a full charge in the spring.  I love those old fords.
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Re: FORD 860 Tractor 6V or 12V & Other tractor Questions
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2021, 11:08:58 PM »
There is a breather cap on the side of the block just forward of the distributor, thats the oil fill.

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Re: FORD 860 Tractor 6V or 12V & Other tractor Questions
« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2021, 11:47:36 PM »
Hopefully he figured it out during sixteen years since he posted the question. 
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Re: FORD 860 Tractor 6V or 12V & Other tractor Questions
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2021, 08:47:35 AM »
oil fill cap is on right side of tractor up near the radiator, also acts as crankcase vent. will be a round domed cap with a slit in it for vent

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Re: FORD 860 Tractor 6V or 12V & Other tractor Questions
« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2021, 06:36:09 PM »
Hopefully he figured it out during sixteen years since he posted the question.
That does seem to be a little long, I like to check mine at least every decade whether it needs it or not.
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