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The gates 4 wire fittings are 2 piece if you take a zip wheel and chisel you can cut off the outer collar pull the fitting out of the hose put a new collar on and crimp. I've saved a pile of money the last 5 years on 1 inch 4 wire fittings. I've never had one come apart after reusing the fitting.
I want to say don't mix and match hose,only use the hose that is afford by the manufacturer of the machine. If it's for yourself that's one thing but with the lawyers if you are selling be warned (DON"T DO IT). It is bad enough when you do things right things can go wrong. When setting up the press you will need to mic. the flange until it's right on the money too much no good,too little no good could be trouble then if you mix and match only God knows. I have a weather head system,started with hydrowflex system many years ago when working at hydraulic shop. Like said for yourself it's up to you I do stuff for me and friends and will mix like a return low pressure line but it's under my control. Yes it will cost $$$$ to get set up best to buy in bulk hose and ends and just get what you will need the most common sizes ends are dear and can cost as much as the hose you will make that being said there is nothing like making up a line in 15-20 min. and back to work,well worth the investment. Just be careful and use common sense my 2 cents
I guess I wasn't saying use any hose and any fittings I always use gates fittings with my gates machine. But I quit buying gates hose because the cost I had a whole roll of 1/2" 2 wire gates that kept getting cracks in the outer cover gates wouldn't do anything about it I did some research found that in 1" 4 wire hose if it's stamped sae100r12 it's an industry standard size 1" inside 1.50" outside. I'm not saying this is the case in all sizes but I make more 4 wire hoses than anything else and never have issues. I've also never sold a single hose to anyone if I was in the business of selling hose I'd be legally obligated to sell the correct product.
Cracks on the outside don't mean much it's the wire that is important,that's where the pressure is the outside dont hold pressure. The outside keeps water off the steel on the inside so it don't rust. Somewhere I saw where someone made from pipe fitten a tool that had a cutter inside and you could put plastic pipe inside and turn it this inturn made a ribbon which could go over the line for protection much like the store bought ones but much cheaper,like a poor mans protector. You gotta be careful because the gates fittings are made for Gates hose some can be crossed over but you should check with Gates and or the manufacturer of the hose.Like I stated before the fitting should be micked to a certain crimp set up by the manufacturer,this is critical in making hose a lot more than meets the eye. Like said for yourself go for it but be aware there can be repercussions. Man got killed in next town over,had put a new hose on loader,they found him under the bucket in the morning and as I understand it was a new hose made by IH end came off and squashed him didn't see it coming. I wont walk under any bucket after hearing this and take great pains when making up a line.
A perfectly good hose that has the covering falling off and split will get us an MSHA violation measured in the thousands of dollars, I bet I've spent 3k with bailey hydraulic on the plastic hose wrap the last few yrs to cut down on worn hoses and still need to wrap a few more machines. :D Ive been sitting here tracking down hose and fittings, a fair amount of deals on ebay and amazon.
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