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Forestry and Logging / Re: Humboldt vs. Conventional

Last post by quilbilly - Today at 11:45:36 PM

Another discussion is about the species of a tree & fiber pull characteristics. Here they pull, out there in soft wood world they break so face cut angles can be less.

This is where I ended up after 25 years in this stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed72a3ugc2I

We get pull in our DF all the time. WRC breaks usually and Hem usually but not always. 

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Forestry and Logging / Re: What are you cutting 2024?...

Last post by barbender - Today at 11:19:41 PM

 I know that burn was a personal tragedy for you, but you're making the best out of it. Those are really nice looking skids behind the ol TJ!

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Shows, Events and Places to meet / Re: International Firewood exp...

Last post by barbender - Today at 11:18:11 PM

 It is always a real challenge matching the available equipment in the market, to your available capital and potential selling market. I watched processors and splitters for years, there wasn't anything that really checked all the boxes for me. I just kept plugging away with an MTD splitter, periodically renting a processor to get split wood stocked up. I finally found a processor that fit my operation to purchase. The only reason it did fit, is because I watched and watched for the right deal. If I would've had to pay full price on a new machine, I'd still be waiting🤷

 Those content creators...their real product is the videos (the content) that they are making. And I'll give credit where it is due- some of them are pretty darn good at it. I found quickly that I don't have the patience or interest in staging cameras and doing things in a way to make good videos. I can see it turning a one hour job into an all day thing. 

 YH is making great videos and actually knows what the heck he's talking about. A very rare combo.

 You guys have better logging/firewood shows out that way, I'm kinda jealous😊

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Tree, Plant and Wood I.D. / Re: Cherrybark or Southern red...

Last post by Otis1 - Today at 11:08:03 PM

Magicman, not sure if you are using Vtree on a phone, tablet, or laptop but I find the app on my phone is fairly easy to navigate. The website is a bit clunky.

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General Woodworking / Re: Still making benches

Last post by WV Sawmiller - Today at 11:01:10 PM

  I went ahead and cut and installed the legs on these 2 bench tops for my mystery wood like the one I left at Jakes. I had my friend do the Fractal Burning on them while I was on my trip and I am real well pleased with his work. The general opinion is it is butternut although we did not discuss Sassafras. It does not have that root beer smell so I am still inclined to believe butternut.

  I had to load the mill up for a mobile job tomorrow so I went ahead and installed and cut these 2 to length on the mill.

Doc,

  What was that technique you showed us at Jakes to sand or cut off one leg to make sure the bench sits level. Oh, wait a minute, I just checked. I won't need to use that after all.

(I don't know why the image doesn't show up bigger)

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Forestry and Logging / Re: Humboldt vs. Conventional

Last post by Skeans1 - Today at 10:59:24 PM

That's a good thing, a meaningful discussion of why a particular approach is used. On the flats, I use a conventional and have the hinge in a root flare if possible. Certainly as close to the edge to Get ALL of the wood I can to the landing. Can save over a ft per tree vs. Humboldt partly because to use a Humboldt I would have the bar in the dirt to cut that low. So save a foot a tree using conventional and My log buyers takes the measurement FROM the base on the veneer & trees where the face cut is out of the money wood. Adds up quick at over a buck a foot. Using the conventional on a typical 100 tree job is 100ft of timber. Also typically pine and other soft wood around here is less than 300 a thousand, so LOTS vs every bit of it is the norm AND feller bunchers as it's tough for a logger to make a living getting 1/2 of 300 a thousand on soft wood. Out west soft wood is the norm. Here Hard Wood with much higher value is the norm. Different techniques to maximize return on investment have been developed in both area's. Why it's tough to listen to the one size fits all and push for Humboldt's by some of the large high volume Pacific North West Canadian channels for anything other than pure entertainment and to see other peoples worlds.

If I left a conventional face in a veneer alder log out here you'd have more then deduction you'd have a free cull log to the mill there's reason we do what we do, are you really gaining anything with a conventional face with a "lower" stump? How low are you cutting? If my sight cut is as low as the top of the face cut are who is wasting more wood?

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Forestry and Logging / Re: How much Face Cut Angle Ca...

Last post by Skeans1 - Today at 10:55:17 PM

@doc henderson 
Side straps are the corners of your hinge if you clip those and leave the centers it helps lesson the amount of barber chair that's possible, even back boring with a strap can still cause a chair in the right situtations take a Red Alder. 

@Nealm66 
Nothing worse then sitting down in a hole cutting something on steep ground having to pop your head out to check directions knowing you have no where to go because you have to sit on the stump that long well sawing away to keep ahead of the chair and pull. Some of the seconds that are pushing 120+ age wise are getting the old growth characteristics with hardness that have been in tight stands with lots of height 250' range stuff like that it's deep and steep or a traditional Humboldt if the occasion requires it, nothing worse going from a 6 40' log set to a 4 40' in that sort of timber.

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Forestry and Logging / Re: How much Face Cut Angle Ca...

Last post by doc henderson - Today at 10:39:46 PM

Nealm, can you explain it in more detail and not using terms that need to be understood to realize what you are trying to teach.  side strap (I assume I know what you mean, but not sure)?  Bore cut through the face cut to the back or parallel and behind the face cut leaving a hinge with a trigger in the back?

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The Outdoor Board / Re: A Forestry Forum snake hun...

Last post by WV Sawmiller - Today at 10:20:16 PM

That is sorta my question.  I was not even there yet I got initialed in.   

Lynn,

  Sorry you were feeling left out but that is clearly a Palmetto bush in the first picture you took to be your initials.

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FOOD! FOOD! FOOD! / Re: 2024 Garden Seeds and Star...

Last post by Otis1 - Today at 10:00:12 PM

Part of the reason I'm trying the heirloom varieties is because my dad always says tomatoes don't taste as good as they used to and I agree. My grandma had a neighbor that grew one that he absolutely loved. I have no idea what variety it was and he is long since passed. I'm just trying to grow him some good tomatoes. This year I'm trying the mortgage lifter although it's not looking great. 

Because I lack the experience, I have been using an app called Planter on my phone that lets you layout your garden and shows what plants are beneficial to each other or what plants are combative. It also shows calendar dates for starting and transplanting based on your location. 

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