Are there loggers still use a stick to measure a log?
Yes, pretty common around here, especially with cedar cutters. I used to always use a stick when marking cedar and pine poles.
Is there any other way .
Stick? I use to use one to measure my logs,just a piece of wood,like a small tree. I kept a tape measure on the tractor so if the stick got short I was all set.
My Father use to mark fire wood with an axe.
same here just watch and dont do what my buddy did cutting up a load of double length logs some time on the beginning he hit the stick with the saw and almost 1/2 of the logs were 3" to short :o ::) but he is alot more careful after he seen the tie check with 43 igs >:( :D :D :D
A lot of guys around here use a 4' driveway marker for a stick. I sometimes use a stick for 8' pulp but usually I measure with a spencer tape and mark with spray paint. It let's me layout the logs for the best scale and grade before I start cutting. I also hate stumbling around the logs with a stick and a saw.
I'll use a stick if I have to buck very many by hand.
the best part of a stick is the end never gets stuck between 2 logs if it gets mud on it it still works and if you loose/brake it is free or 2.99 at HD :D
I use the stick,mostly for grade. The tape works good for 22' pulp logs. On the long ones(pulp logs) I sometimes lose track of flips with the stick and have to start over. I make my own 4' stick with marks at 6" and 8" on the ends and at the 2' mark.
I used a 4' fiberglass fence rod with a groove filed in it at the 2' mark. they are only 1/2" in diameter and you can hold them in your hand, and still hold the saw handlebar.
I always have a 4' stick in my handlebar hand when bucking, with a notch at 2'.
I still do, carry a 100" stick for measuring pulp and bolts. Also use a Spencer tape for measuring logs
On the rare occasion that I have to hand cut many trees and buck logs I will cut myself an 8'6" stick and then add a mark 2' from the end. That way I can cut either 8' or 10' logs as well as pulp sticks. If its just a tree here or there that I hand cut I will just mark them out with paint and a tape measure and then buck them with the harvester.
I tried the stick and hated it. I run a 50ft spencer on each hip. That way I don't get tangled up in the tape. After I got all the number combos figured out its second nature. I buck in the woods tho. My saw is 50" long so I scribe my pulp sticks. Two blips to a stick.
I worked at a place which did this and I hated it. I always seemed to be fumbling with the stick, it made me take longer. Spencer tape all day in my book
4 foot red oak kiln stick, marked at 2'. I use paint to mark the logs, my helper starts in bucking behind me as i measure and then i grab a saw and buck when done measuring. To me it is easier than fumbling with a tape, i have tried both ways. Spencer is nice in the woods but for the landing the stick just works better for me
8ft 6 inch and also marked at 1 ft on each end and 2, 4, 6 ft , this way can cut everything from 6 ft up to whatever the mill wants
i haul every thing at 42-52' feet now, so i use a 100' spencer. when we hauled log length i used a 4'2" stick marked at 2'1" for 10-12-16-24' logs.
We just have a whip mounted on the handle of our saws here .makes the saw 4 feet in lenght we add on the trim by eye some guys mark the whip in one foot increments to make odd sizes .Mind you i am not cutting trees as big as you guys are and our spruce fir is definetly worth less than some of those hardwoods i see on here .
I buy logs from a bunch of loggers. And what I found out that I can get a load of logs from a man with a stick or tape and it's the same.
When I get a load of short or long logs, it's the man not the stick or tape. :D :D :D
Thank's guys
We got a bunch of logs at work this winter to cut timbers from the same land the frame is going to go up on. Somebody must have broken their tape and forgot it was 9" shorter. A lot of logs that wouldn't make what they were supposed to. ::)
i use a stick. tried both but tapes never lasted long plus i like a stick because its old school lol. i like those driveway markers to because if you drop it your more likely to find it.
I have used both a stick and tape and only use a tape now. The stick was ok for pulp or spruce/fir but good grade hardwood I prefer a tape.
Well furltech I'm with you on the saw mounted whip. My father used a stick for years until I showed him the whip. You never lose it and your never looking for it cause it's with you as long as the saw is in your hands, to me anything else would slow you down.
Does anyone have a pic of the whip?
Ok peter here is a pic or two of a saw mounted whip.
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So the whip is 2' long and you I ball up the log as you go.
Just make sure you aren't drilling through the gas tank on your Husky. ;)
Well it can be more accurate than eyeballing it. We take the whip end and put it on the log end then rev the saw a little bit and kind of roll the saw forwards until the saw bar tip strikes the log making a mark. This mark is four foot so then walk up the log and put the whip end ahead of the saw mark and repeat the process and now you have an eight foot mark. You can keep repeating for how ever long you need the log, and if you want you can put one or two foot marks on the whip with electrical tape.
You lay they saw on top of the tree and make a mark that gives you four feet keep limbing up the tree line up whip with mark your tip made now you have 8 feet . the whip comes longer when you buy it after you mount it you cut it so overall length is 4 feet
whoops missed your explanation bush mechanic sorry
where do you buy the whip?
We buy them just about anywhere you buy a saw they cost about 6 bucks
This is an example of something that I love about the forum- I have never seen a whip like that, let alone the fact that you can buy them. It looks like a slick solution ;) What is it made out of?
Your right about the forum i just assumed everyone used one lol it is a plastic nylon product it is pretty flexible it wont break unless very old or cold it has a spring reinforcment up by the handle .
I've seen them somewheres for sale and have seen them on a few saws too.
Be careful like Dave said. Some saws the handle is part of the gas tank. And if you drill a hole in it, you'll have a lot of trouble patching it. I've seen one with holes in it and the owner had to buy a whole new handle cause they couldn't patch it up right.
Jim Rogers
Is the stick like the part that replaces the bar nut? Not logging country here so most of the saw shops arborist or home owner.