Is anyone using or familiar with European standard pants? Type a or type c. From brands like SIP or pfanner. Oregon stihl and husky make them also. I've read that there very light, great maneuverability. Stretch fabric.they are very different than the US standard.
I use the Stihl cutting pants for years and love them. There have lighter ones for the summer and heavier ones for the colder temperatures . Pretty sure other brands are as good as them. I just buy them, when I am at the dealer anyways and they are actually very reasonable priced. Next i gonna try their steel toe leather boots, because I heard good things about them and I am really getting tired about, what they are selling at TSC.
Are those the ones that look more like jogging pants than chaps? I saw a pair at a safety training class, the instructor said they had 9 layers of kevlar, they looked quite comfortable.
Lopet - I picked up a pair of Wolverine leather steel toe boots this spring from Sierra Trading Post website, something like $50, figured if I got a month out of them then I would be happy as I am hard on footwear. Got to say I am quite impressed with them - they don't have any kevlar in them like my winter boots do, which I don't like, but they have really no visible wear on them. I glued on the cheap toe protectors I got at TSC as well, they actually stayed on.
Yes, those are pants. Just google them
I haven't found the right leather boot for me yet, still looking, but we are talking about pants now.
I like the Labonville pants with the removable pads the best.
The pants look like jogging pants. There way lighter than labonville or anything here in the US. When you look them up you have to put chainsaw trousers in the search engine.
I bought a pair of Forester brand all season pants about a year ago. first week i wore them I loved em. after that there wasn't enough of em left to love.
Are you saying the chainsaw ate 'em up ?
no, no saw involved, lets just say they didn't last very well.
I wouldn't call them jogging pants. Here is a example of the Husqvarna one.
http://www.sherrilltree.com/Husqvarna-Chainsaw-Pants_2#.VAkPpFf2aCk
I think I might try a pair, my chaps are shreaded and need replacement. Thanks for the information. :)
Check out the Francital pants at treestuff.com I have been using them for about a year. Climbing and logging. They are the best I have found yet for the money. They run small
I wear summer pants in the winter and still are too warm many times. :-p
Chep. I orderd a pair of oregon waipoua type a. What type are the francital a or c. I've read on some arborist forums about them both. Kinda just took a chance on one.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/37555/P1000721.JPG) I used stihl pants for a long time. I needed new ones, when i was at holiday in my country (switzerland) i speaked with some profesionels and they told me that a lot of them changed to pfanner pants. So i bought one (for hot temperatures) and dam do i like them, just 2.5lbs and stretchy on the back and they have vent zippers behind the knees for fresh air. Well they costed me 350$ but they are worth every dollar, will never go back to chaps or another pants.
Do they meet OSHA standards? Our regulations are quite strict, I believe they must withstand a threshold speed of 3600 ft/min. Good ones are hard to find for a reasonable price, we offer Oregon but the ones that meet BC standards are pricey so don't sell.
they meet al standards in europe (swiss standards are very stict). They are safety class A, 20m per second (that would be 3940ft/min) so they would meet your standards. A big company (teakplantations) here in Costa Rica boughted some cheap chaps for their employees (they have about 25 persons just falling trees) when the first one cuted thru the chaps into his leg they get rid of all the cheap chaps and bought good ones (around 100$). As I work alone (just one help) i dont care if they are expensive, they have to be comftable, light and save. We have 75 to 95 degrees the whole year, so chaps just slow you down even more and get tangled up more in the bushes and lianas.
I like the look of pfanner pants as well. I have a pair of the oregon's on the way from a friend in Sweden.160.00
What about washing those things? I mean I almost never wash my jeans or hickories, but they get a good rinsing at least once a week or so ;) I can only imagine how many pairs of $250 pants you would need to rotate out a semi clean pair every once in a while!
Note: Not trying to be a smartass ;D, just curious as to what other fulltime fallers handle it.
Tom
I have not looked at the cleaning instructions. These pants have been widely used in Europe and I have read many forums and never saw anything about it. They are not made with the same Kevlar structures the US made stuff is so that could be the difference.
i wash them ones a week in the washing machine (should not wash with to hot water) then let them dry at sunday so they are ready to work on monday. I just use them 2Month a year, but if you are out there every day you should have two pairs. every profesional in europe use pants, have not seen chaps there.
ga jones: can you buy pfanner pants in the US? and how much are they? Probably cheaper than in Switzerland! Try them out, you wont regret!
Ever notice how the Canadians and Europeans look like space cadets with all the required safety gear? Poor guys are regulated to death. I am all for people using all the PPE they want. Or not. But.....the gubbment know best!
Tom
I had a guy laugh at me putting on my chaps when the two of us were cutting brush for a Lion's project in a school forest. He by the way was the EMS driver.
Reached into some buckthorn to cut it out, and the saw kicked and just bounced off my knee cap. Small tear in the chaps.
This guy that laughed turned white. His remark "I'm going to buy a pair this afternoon before I go home".
He's worn them ever since.
Yes tree stuff.com has the pfanner gladiator pants in stock 299.00
Just a note of caution if buying Labonville chaps. in the Baileys catalog the measurement is apparently from the waist not the inseam as with trousers.
When the 2 pairs I bought got here they came well above the ankles.
Yes, they do say the measurement is "overall length".
I wear the highest class pant we can get here yr round. for the washing its cold water and hang dry.
kev
Quote from: ga jones on November 14, 2014, 07:48:59 AM
Yes tree stuff.com has the pfanner gladiator pants in stock 299.00
I checked that webside out: these are the "gladiator pants" they are for colder temperatures (Fall, Winter). I did not see the "gladiator ventilation pants" (they would be for the summer). Not to be confused with arborist ventilation pants, they are diferent!
Check out the different pants on: http://katalog.pfanner-austria.at/
If my buddy from Sweden comes through with the oregon's (there for my step father) I will get a pair of the pfanner ventilation gladiator and compare the two.
I dont know the oregons. I am surely interested in your opinion when you tryed both brands. you have a lot of winter and cold temps where you live?
Some years. It was 24f this morning and 38f high. Into single digits only for short periods a few days. It's unusually cold for this time here. It also gets into the 90sF here in the summer that's when standard USA spec pants get unbearable.
Quote from: KyLogger on November 13, 2014, 09:52:38 PM
Ever notice how the Canadians and Europeans look like space cadets with all the required safety gear? Poor guys are regulated to death. I am all for people using all the PPE they want. Or not. But.....the gubbment know best!
Tom
You don't know the half of it. Just about every private industry in this country is getting regulated out of existence. >:(
Beware! It's coming soon to a State near you! ;D
Got the Oregon pants from Sweden today
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Super lightweight spandex on the back. Kevlar patches in knees.protective material in front
Here's the inside the silver is the protective layer
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Nice! did you buy a pfanner pair too? They both should be similar
No not yet. there a lot more money.trying to decide if it's worth it??
How much are the oregons?
140.00 dollars
:o thats a big difference! Have you notice that all brands have cheaper models (less hightec) and the top of the line pants are allways around 250-300? In Stihl is the same. Are you sure that this oregon is the strechy, venty pros model?
I bought 4 pair of the Stihl ones about five years ago. They were less than 100 bucks back then. No idea what they're now.
Stihl has a pricerange in pants from 100-350$ at least in europe. the cheapest are for hobby sawers and casual users. If you use them daily as a professional, believe me you want to by the more expensive ones especialy when working in hot temperatures. there is a big difference between does pants
No hot temperatures here when I am working in the wood. Or otherwise, if it is hot, I am not running a chainsaw. My saws don't even run then. ;D ;D
Those pants work for me but maybe not for everybody.
Yes they are pro model. Stretch. I found out about them on an arborist forum from Europe.
So i have to check them out. 140$ for a pro model chainsawpants would be a steal! where in the u.s. can i buy a oregon pair?
Yea I'd love a pair of those oregons if they are only $140, where can you pick those up?
anyone try the pfanner ventilation chainsaw pants yet?? they look to be vented better to stay cooler than even the summer gladiator pants but unsure how durable and cut resistant they are. any one know ??
Lebonville summer pants with snap in pads are very light and comfy.
Having a few nicks of my own and seeing pictures of more serious chainsaw cuts in this forum and during graduate school; I decided to buy a pair of the "lesser" chainsaw chaps from the local Stihl dealer for @ $89.00. I like them for protecting my legs from several occurrences beyond the obvious of cutting chains.
Falls, bumps, being whipped, and it keeps my trousers dryer & cleaner.
All of my nicks and close calls have been from "knee to bar" occurances; lifting my leg to step over things and making contact with a moving chain....nothing new to the pros I'm sure.
My current saws idle properly and the chains stop, so that helps too.
Now I feel naked without them. ::)
I bought a pair of the Stein Kreiger pants from Treestuff.com last summer and so far, so good although I have only used them for a few weeks. There is a bit of wear showing, but I love the super light and stretchy fabric in the back and the nomex on the front of the thighs. Also, a cell phone pocket on each leg is convenient. The suspender buttons match the Labonville pants. I try not to cut when it's too hot out, but when I have too, I reach for those.