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Started by markd, April 03, 2012, 10:49:13 PM

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markd

You were a thinker, and were able to figure out the way to get the job done and your dad new that, and that's why he turned you loose. I'll be you've done well in your life.
markd

markd

John, that looks like a fun contraption, at least you don't need two mules!!
markd

woodyone.john

 i did feel like an overworked donkey one day when i demonsrated it to our local forestry group.you cant put on a poor show when theyre all watching. you just slink off into the forest after to catch up with yourself. :-[ did you check out the link and the various ways to set up the rigging. snatch blocks can be very handy in these instances. cheers john
Saw millers are just carpenters with bigger bits of wood

markd

Yes I did John, It's all in the riggin ain't it?
markd

tz350g

Hi markd,
I've photocopied the catalog and parts list.  Email me where you want them sent.

I'm thinking the size of tree it can pull direct, will vary a lot according to the type of tree and the soil conditions.  I agree 12" to 14" is probably the biggest it can pull with out using blocks to get more leverage.

I have 2 teams of horses, one team of Haflingers and a team of Haflinger Percheron crosses.  It takes three of them to pull a 16" single bottom plow and I've read that type of plow has about 900 pounds of draft so with that info it would seem that each horse can pull 300 pounds and certainly more for short periods of time. So with a 10 foot sweep and an 11.5" diameter drum I get about 21 to 1 leverage or about 12600 pounds of pull when a team is working the same as plowing but I'd expect them to nearly double that when asked nicely but only for a short time.

I also have three blocks so if rigged correctly I should get around 100,800 pounds of pull, still short of the 144,000 of a Cat D9 but I'm sure that'll make some big stumps move.  The blocks are military surplus and only rated at 13 tons so if I actually get that kind of pull I'll be over the rating some.

Brad_H   

woodyone.john

talking about rigging correctly there is a system here called [or was called in the days of the bullockys]' putting on the burton'. now days i thinkm the terminology used would be 'luff on luff on luff' its 3 blocks each pu;;ing the next,back to a deadman of some sort the last block to the load. uses a lot of rope but it sure can move stuff. cheers john
Saw millers are just carpenters with bigger bits of wood

markd

Stump puller all repaired and ready to pull, I havn't found a willing team of horses, mules or oxen so we're gonna use man power. Markd

  

  

  

  

  

 
markd

Ianab

You can move a lot of weight with something like that.

They have been used for logging in the past. This one could drag a 20ton log in from a mile away!!!



Ian
Weekend warrior, Peterson JP test pilot, Dolmar 7900 and Stihl MS310 saws and  the usual collection of power tools :)

woodyone.john

ian i live in wech access rd,near wark worth .there are the remains of an old whim still standing about 10 k from here.round here they were most often turned by bullocks. on another point i would like to have a small and low tech harvest feild day on my property probably and the end of the farm forestry annual conference to be based in orewa next year toward the end of april.let anybody you know [preferably those with something to offer and share] who might be interested. i am sure you would be invited. cheers john
Saw millers are just carpenters with bigger bits of wood

markd

Hadn't considered using one to yard logs but if fuel gets gone might have to.Those old guys always figured how to get the job done.Thanks for that post of the whim Ianab!
markd

ashes

Just curious about this tool. How does it work? I am not a machinery guy yet, but it looks interesting.

I guess what I'm asking is how does it attach to a stump and pull it? I can see how you could attach it to a log and drag a log, but pulling stumps would require vertical force as well i would guess.

tjdub

Quote from: ashes on May 07, 2012, 01:09:16 AM
I guess what I'm asking is how does it attach to a stump and pull it?

You attach the cable around the stump with a choker hook, which requires some digging to get the cable under enough root mass.  Then you attach the stump puller to something that won't move (usually an even bigger stump).  If there was nothing left in the area but the biggest stumps, that's where they piled brush from the tops and started a fire.  Or they just plowed around those stumps :)

There wasn't much vertical leverage except for the what the far-side of the rootball gave you.  It was just brute force.


woodyone.john

packing stuff, like other bits of sound wood, on top of the stump helps with gaining height and increaseing leveredge
Saw millers are just carpenters with bigger bits of wood

markd

I attached it to a small alder stump, 8" and two of us pushed the sweep arm around and got it tight then I hooked the tractor on it and with a little fanagglein it pulled it right out! The root ball was huge and weighed alot. It's very slow but extremely powerful. The cable I put on it is 5/8" and a choker on each end. It's not made for these fir and oak we have here, they're way too big without a little help from blasting. I read that they pulled thousands of apple stumps with them in Washington and I'll bet they pulled fairly easy. It is an amazing contraption and works very smooth and much quieter than a D8.
markd

sawmillman

I have a stump puller that will be sold in a farm auction next June in Southern Illinois. It is currently hidden in a bunch of vines and weeds so I do not know what brand it is. I can see the cable on the spool. I never saw it being used. When I get it pulled out in the open I will look for a brand name and try to get a pic.
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