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General Forestry => Tree, Plant and Wood I.D. => Topic started by: joshcathey on April 23, 2016, 08:19:47 PM

Title: Need help identifying a tree
Post by: joshcathey on April 23, 2016, 08:19:47 PM
Can anyone help identify this tree? I haven't been able to find a match using online guides for north American trees. I think it may be non native. This is in Oklahoma, near Tulsa. Thanks!
Title: Re: Need help identifying a tree
Post by: WDH on April 23, 2016, 08:24:34 PM
You have to create an album in the photo gallery, then upload the pic to your gallery.  Here is a tutorial.

https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,61788.0.html
Title: Re: Need help identifying a tree
Post by: joshcathey on April 23, 2016, 08:30:46 PM
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/42873/20160423_182511.jpg)
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(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/42873/20160423_182214.jpg)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/42873/20160423_182318.jpg)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/42873/20160423_182453.jpg)
Title: Re: Need help identifying a tree
Post by: WDH on April 23, 2016, 09:28:34 PM
I believe that it is tamarack, Larix laricina.  Do the needles turn yellow in the Fall?

http://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/dendrology/syllabus/factsheet.cfm?ID=159
Title: Re: Need help identifying a tree
Post by: joshcathey on April 23, 2016, 09:36:07 PM
No, the needles stay green year-round.
Title: Re: Need help identifying a tree
Post by: 4x4American on April 23, 2016, 09:41:45 PM
What state are you in?
Title: Re: Need help identifying a tree
Post by: WDH on April 23, 2016, 09:43:16 PM
Then, I believe that it is deodar cedar, Cedrus deodara.  It is a commonly planted ornamental.

http://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/dendrology/syllabus/factsheet.cfm?ID=456
Title: Re: Need help identifying a tree
Post by: joshcathey on April 23, 2016, 09:57:45 PM
I think you may be right! It sure looks like it. It also looks a lot like an Atlas Cedar. How would I tell the difference?
Title: Re: Need help identifying a tree
Post by: WDH on April 24, 2016, 07:40:40 AM
The bark.  Deodar cedar has more of a dark brown, ridged, furrowed bark while Atlas cedar has a silvery scaly bark.  Take a pic of the bark. 
Title: Re: Need help identifying a tree
Post by: joshcathey on April 24, 2016, 01:38:30 PM
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/42873/14615190337351107788025.jpg)

Definitely Deodar Cedar. Thanks! This house has been in the family since the late 60's and no one ever knew what kind of tree this was. My mom and her siblings used to use it to sneak out at night until my grandpa caught them and cut off all of the lower branches, ha!

Speaking of bark, as you can see in the photo this tree is a favorite of the local woodpeckers. The entire trunk and all of the larger branches look like this. Will this harm the tree?
Title: Re: Need help identifying a tree
Post by: Magicman on April 24, 2016, 03:54:19 PM
That is some major sapsucker damage. :o   Harm? yes.  Kill it? probably not.

You identified yourself as living in Tulsa, OK, but adding that information to your profile would help.   :)
Title: Re: Need help identifying a tree
Post by: joshcathey on April 24, 2016, 08:09:31 PM
Is there any way to prevent further damage or repair damage done?
Title: Re: Need help identifying a tree
Post by: gfadvm on April 24, 2016, 08:29:46 PM
Welcome to the FF Josh. I'm in Jenks. Give me a shout and come see my little mill/operation.
Title: Re: Need help identifying a tree
Post by: WDH on April 25, 2016, 07:18:41 AM
Nothing you can do about the sapsuckers.
Title: Re: Need help identifying a tree
Post by: mesquite buckeye on April 26, 2016, 01:33:13 PM
That bark doesn't look like the deodar cedars I've seen. Also the needles look too silver and small for deodar cedar. I'm more inclined  to think atlas cedar.

The true cedars aren't all too tough with only 3 species that I know of. Deodar from the Himalayas, Cedar of Lebanon from guess where, and a couple of forms of Atlas cedar. These grow in Morocco and are closely related to the Lebanese Cedar.

FYI.

;D