Currently slabbing on my middle TN farm with a granberg mill but lusting for a practical truly portable mill that can go to the stump. Anybody out there using a turbosaw weekend warrior? Like the concept but wondering about reality.
Thanks-
TractorBoy78
There fairly new. I havent heard of one being used around here.
Welcome to the Forestry Forum, TractorBoy78. :)
I saw one in action today at the oregon logging conference.
It would be handy for trimming over sized logs down to fit on the mill,
They are out of spokane wa.
the larger one is under $10,000
Welcome to the FF TractorBoy78
I too have been interested in hearing more about the Turbosaw myself.
maybe a swingmill would suit your needs??
DGDrls
I have the saw (weekend warrior) have not made chips yet ::) bit cold in my area. Not a portable as I would like, the main beam is large and not light.
Will be doing set-up as the weather improves.
This not a tried and true product, but is being upgraded as they gain experience.
Quote from: 54Dutchman on February 21, 2014, 08:48:28 AM
I have the saw (weekend warrior) have not made chips yet ::) bit cold in my area. Not a portable as I would like, the main beam is large and not light.
Will be doing set-up as the weather improves.
This not a tried and true product, but is being upgraded as they gain experience.
We will look forward to your report ;)
Best
DGDrls
Quotemaybe a swingmill would suit your needs??
It is a swingmill, just a smallish one that uses a chainsaw powerhead to drive a circle blade. Advantage then is that you can tilt the whole engine and blade together, no gearbox needed, just a drive belt to get the blade rpm correct.
I haven't seen one in action, but I've cut a lot of wood with an older Peterson chainsaw powered mill, so I know the idea works pretty well. Also, although the Turbosaw name is pretty new, the guys behind it have a LOT of experience in the Swingblade sawmill business. I'm confident if they are selling it, it will work.
Ian
Quote from: Ianab on February 21, 2014, 07:23:02 PM
Quotemaybe a swingmill would suit your needs??
It is a swingmill, just a smallish one that uses a chainsaw powerhead to drive a circle blade. Advantage then is that you can tilt the whole engine and blade together, no gearbox needed, just a drive belt to get the blade rpm correct.
I haven't seen one in action, but I've cut a lot of wood with an older Peterson chainsaw powered mill, so I know the idea works pretty well. Also, although the Turbosaw name is pretty new, the guys behind it have a LOT of experience in the Swingblade sawmill business. I'm confident if they are selling it, it will work.
Ian
Right on Ianab, I was thinking a swinger on high rails the size of a Lucas or Peterson
DGDrls
Thanks for the input. Used to work with CAT and have done manufacturing. Came to fixate on the unit for several reasons. Follow a tractor-trailer down the road. Body flexes and the doors do not. Such twisting may also apply to a traditional band saw. Wood-Miser and TimberKing owners have complained about wear and tear of transporting mills. Limiting log moving reduces machinery and conceptually improving safety? Single beam may well be a bear to tote. Single beam seems like the next generation swing blade machine. Those Peterson boys have it going on! They have an incredible story of perseverance. Lesson to us all. I just need to rob my IRA and quit yacking. Life is short and what is worthy of our time?
TractorBoy78,welcome to the forum. Yes,do things when you are young enough to enjoy the toys and yourself. I have seen some plan for a good life in later years and the later years only last for about 5 years or they never come at all.
Quote from: Ianab on February 21, 2014, 07:23:02 PM
although the Turbosaw name is pretty new, the guys behind it have a LOT of experience in the Swingblade sawmill business. I'm confident if they are selling it, it will work.
Ian
The 42 hp deisel version that can cut 40' is an impressive unit, even has a MM seat :D
QuoteThe 42 hp deisel version that can cut 40' is an impressive unit, even has a MM seat
Yes, it's has a certain resemblance to the local Mahoe mills, which are a "twin saw" with a comparable beam and end stand setup. So that's another idea that's pretty well proven. Combined with the swingblade it's a good mill.
But with an all up weight of over ton, it's not exactly as portable as the smaller mills. ;) But for real heavy duty work, it would be pretty cool.
Ian
Having virtually decided which bandsaw I was for buying ;D.
I realized that at about $8000.00 (plus electric powerhead or big saw)
The Weekend Warrior might suffice for my needs.
Cutting mostly constructional type timbers and posts/beams etc from Sitka Spruce.
Since the trees can be "set in" the same as they can be set on a bandsaw bed.
i.e. the saw can be left set up, rather than having to build a frame around the tree.
Plus not concerned about the kerf wastage.
regards,
Marcus
Quote from: Ianab on February 22, 2014, 03:31:45 AM
QuoteThe 42 hp deisel version that can cut 40' is an impressive unit, even has a MM seat
Yes, it's has a certain resemblance to the local Mahoe mills, which are a "twin saw" with a comparable beam and end stand setup. So that's another idea that's pretty well proven. Combined with the swingblade it's a good mill.
But with an all up weight of over ton, it's not exactly as portable as the smaller mills. ;) But for real heavy duty work, it would be pretty cool.
Ian
I keep going back to look at the big turbosaw. There's no such thing as an off the shelf perfect mill... but in terms of operating principal I see it as best meeting my needs when it comes to big log capacity.
My problem is I think it's too small: needs more grunt and it's far too light to drive it hard. If they'd only beef it up to 5 tonne or so... ;D ;D ;D
Buy a scrap overhead/gantry crane from a factory.
(A 5 tonne ;D capacity model)
Mount nearer the ground and hang a big diesel driven saw offen it.
OR
Take a Gladiator, mount the beam rigid back to a wall or reinforcing frame.
So the saw blade follows a rigidly proscribed line.
Then with a hydraulic powered support trolly, move the tree, up and down, and fore and aft.
That should be the optimium set-up 8).
Perhaps clearer in my head than I can describe.
just a thought ;)
m
Take one standard model Gladiator. (with the PLC upgrade etc)
Over engineer it along the lines of a Duncan Beam Saw...
http://www.diw.ca/Products.page?CategoryID=0&CurrentPage=1&ItemID=157222
weight gives stiffness for accurate high speed cutting, and means things don't break off at the first bad road.
Give it about ten more teeth and the grunt to make them bite so it can cut fast in heavy dense timbers, and enough HP left over to run a seriously fast hydraulic turner and clamp system.
Mount it permanently to the bed of a float, or lowboy as you guys call them.
Add a hydraulicly lowering infeed and outfeed system, kinda like Meadows Miller has on that Laimet of his.
Steal Meadows Millers Laimet for a high speed resaw, and for doing the little 'uns :D
Tow with Kenworth.
Really glad to prompt flow of ideas. Spent the afternoon ripping stickers on my WoodMaster. Would be cool to come up with a common source design for a swing blade using readily available components.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/17725/2014_-_COMMON_WARRIOR_FRAME%7E0.JPG)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/17725/2014_-_MODEL_6_WARRIOR_28LEFT_HAND29.JPG)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/17725/gladiator-page-photo-solo.jpg)
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(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/17725/dust2520shoot.JPG)
one of those?
What is the price for the weekend warrior 6" and 8" models?
be careful when talking price-be sure it is delivered price!!
(ask me how I know)
Acording to emails ( I checked several months ago) price is delivered to your door. The have a suplier here in the states. If you pm me i will give you his number. Susposedly he has some of last years models at a reduced price.
Jake Peterson posted a 17 min video on u-tube under "MODEL 8" WARRIOR" The video shows the mill in action at the Eugene logging cofference, and covers milling 1x8 8x8 and 2x16, simple operation ;) smiley_thumbsup