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#81
Sawmills and Milling / Re: The Opening Face
Last post by OlJarhead - Yesterday at 04:55:41 PMNice write up!
Because of you, this is always what I try to do. I'm fully in the 'hooks to the right' and roll 90 degrees camp as I've found an approach like yours produces better lumber and frankly, more quickly (less rolling and messing around) than other approaches I've tried.
Of course, I'm a rooky still ;) and have much to learn but what you describe is what I learned from you several years ago and what I continue to try to do.
Because of you, this is always what I try to do. I'm fully in the 'hooks to the right' and roll 90 degrees camp as I've found an approach like yours produces better lumber and frankly, more quickly (less rolling and messing around) than other approaches I've tried.
Of course, I'm a rooky still ;) and have much to learn but what you describe is what I learned from you several years ago and what I continue to try to do.
#82
Timber Framing/Log construction / D-Log 'shed' build
Last post by OlJarhead - Yesterday at 04:45:49 PMAfternoon all!
OK, I'm about to embark on a D-Log shed build that I plan to make somewhere between 8x10 to 10x12 and make 'non permanent'. By this I mean the shed will be small enough to not meet permitting requirements and will not be on a foundation, so not a 'permanent structure' (could perhaps later be moved I suppose).
My plan is to set two logs flattened on two sides (top and bottom) leaving at least an 8 inch flat face on pavers/rocks/cinder blocks (not sure what I will do yet) and then build 5 or 5 1/2" D-Log walls on top of those logs which will leave a 2 1/2" 'ledger' (or at least a ledge) on the remaining flat surface (since the logs will have an 8 inch flat face and the D-Logs will be no more than 5 to 5 1/2 inches as I plan to use the worst of the logs I have already milled and just flatten them out) which would allow me to build my floor inside the 1st course of wall logs, sitting on the 'skid' logs.
My thought is that I won't move the 'cabin/shed' anyway so using the skid logs as a ledger to mount fix the floor on top of (leaving me a span of 10' so I'll use 8" floor joists most likely) should work nicely.
As I build up the course of logs I'll mark the door and windows (windows will not be put in the structure until/unless I convert to a bedroom cabin) and not screw the logs together in those locations.
I plan to use 9" Oly log screws and place them at 24" intervals as well as at the ends.
I'll be using the Butt and Pass method of building and will use purlins to make the roof. I can mill 1.5" 6" ceiling planks and probably make them into T&G for sheathing the ceiling then place 30lbs felt on top of those and I'll likely then affix two layers of R10 foam on them, then a layer of sheathing, more felt and then roofing (metal) to finish off an R20 roof with open purlins running the length inside with exposed 6" plank ceiling.
For the porch I'll extend the purlins 4 feet to the front and 2 or 3 feet to the rear (so if 12 foot in length I'll need 18-20 foot purlins) and set posts on either the skid logs to tie it all into one unit or brace them with 6 inch beam bracing. I figure I'll use D-Log cut offs/short logs for the gables.
My main contemplation at this point is the non-foundation. I think using pavers is probably the best option and setting them every 4 feet or even 6 feet should work. Once level the area has good drainage so I'm not overly concerned about movement and with a 24" eve/overhang on the sides I should protect the logs well. I figured I'd burn the logs before placing as the 'skid' foundation and then use base plate seal foam between log courses to help seal up gaps and of course, finish it with chinking. I might use some PT 2x8 'shims' placed between the pavers and the log skids and/or something between them and the pavers as well (like felt or base plate seal).
Any thoughts? Concerns? Suggestions?
Thanks!
Erik
OK, I'm about to embark on a D-Log shed build that I plan to make somewhere between 8x10 to 10x12 and make 'non permanent'. By this I mean the shed will be small enough to not meet permitting requirements and will not be on a foundation, so not a 'permanent structure' (could perhaps later be moved I suppose).
My plan is to set two logs flattened on two sides (top and bottom) leaving at least an 8 inch flat face on pavers/rocks/cinder blocks (not sure what I will do yet) and then build 5 or 5 1/2" D-Log walls on top of those logs which will leave a 2 1/2" 'ledger' (or at least a ledge) on the remaining flat surface (since the logs will have an 8 inch flat face and the D-Logs will be no more than 5 to 5 1/2 inches as I plan to use the worst of the logs I have already milled and just flatten them out) which would allow me to build my floor inside the 1st course of wall logs, sitting on the 'skid' logs.
My thought is that I won't move the 'cabin/shed' anyway so using the skid logs as a ledger to mount fix the floor on top of (leaving me a span of 10' so I'll use 8" floor joists most likely) should work nicely.
As I build up the course of logs I'll mark the door and windows (windows will not be put in the structure until/unless I convert to a bedroom cabin) and not screw the logs together in those locations.
I plan to use 9" Oly log screws and place them at 24" intervals as well as at the ends.
I'll be using the Butt and Pass method of building and will use purlins to make the roof. I can mill 1.5" 6" ceiling planks and probably make them into T&G for sheathing the ceiling then place 30lbs felt on top of those and I'll likely then affix two layers of R10 foam on them, then a layer of sheathing, more felt and then roofing (metal) to finish off an R20 roof with open purlins running the length inside with exposed 6" plank ceiling.
For the porch I'll extend the purlins 4 feet to the front and 2 or 3 feet to the rear (so if 12 foot in length I'll need 18-20 foot purlins) and set posts on either the skid logs to tie it all into one unit or brace them with 6 inch beam bracing. I figure I'll use D-Log cut offs/short logs for the gables.
My main contemplation at this point is the non-foundation. I think using pavers is probably the best option and setting them every 4 feet or even 6 feet should work. Once level the area has good drainage so I'm not overly concerned about movement and with a 24" eve/overhang on the sides I should protect the logs well. I figured I'd burn the logs before placing as the 'skid' foundation and then use base plate seal foam between log courses to help seal up gaps and of course, finish it with chinking. I might use some PT 2x8 'shims' placed between the pavers and the log skids and/or something between them and the pavers as well (like felt or base plate seal).
Any thoughts? Concerns? Suggestions?
Thanks!
Erik
#83
The Outdoor Board / Re: BIRDS
Last post by Old saw fixer - Yesterday at 04:05:00 PMI finally hear quail again, but still nothing from the whippoorwills.
#84
The Outdoor Board / Re: BIRDS
Last post by WhitePineJunky - Yesterday at 04:02:16 PMWe got all the birds now. Hummers, tree swallows, cardinals, tons of goldfinches, rose breasted gros beaks, even a brown headed cow bird 😯
#85
Sawmills and Milling / Re: Salvage walnut
Last post by TimW - Yesterday at 03:45:59 PMQuote from: Magicman on Yesterday at 02:09:22 PMWe have the Alabama-Coushatta Indian reservation just a stone's throw from here between Livingston and Woodville. My ex wife's cousin has danced at their powwows.Quote from: TimW on Yesterday at 01:42:09 PMI am told Native Americans would tie trees back to mark trails.I have heard the same thing about similar trees. If Native Americans did it, they would be very old trees. Native Americans were removed from my area beginning in 1830 and followed the Trail of Tears to Oklahoma.
It is told that my G G Grandad disavowed his Indian heritage and took an English name so was allowed to remain. Pictures of my G Grandmother show her being darker complected.
#86
Sawmills and Milling / Re: Salvage walnut
Last post by TimW - Yesterday at 03:42:03 PMQuote from: WV Sawmiller on Yesterday at 02:20:13 PMLet me update my Christmas Card list:Wait, what?TimW
The 90 degree bend going vertical is still good and would make an excellent 5 legged bench!
#87
Sawmills and Milling / Re: T&G Knifes
Last post by Dewey - Yesterday at 03:30:11 PMContact W.M. Moore Profiles
They build knives per my Drawings..
Great company to deal with
They build knives per my Drawings..
Great company to deal with
#88
Forestry and Logging / Re: What are you cutting 2024?...
Last post by WhitePineJunky - Yesterday at 03:22:39 PM
#89
The Outdoor Board / Re: BIRDS
Last post by SwampDonkey - Yesterday at 03:20:36 PMWe have hummers here now a couple days after mother put the feeder up. 
Those tree swallows were like a bunch of bats this morning, chirping and flying around at 4:00 am.
Those tree swallows were like a bunch of bats this morning, chirping and flying around at 4:00 am.
#90
General Board / Re: The weather 2024
Last post by SwampDonkey - Yesterday at 03:15:42 PMI make a smudge here every morning lately, does 24 hrs unless a cold rain in the 40's all day. Was 45° here this morning and got to 66° here this afternoon. I've got a little bit of firewood I want to burn up and then stack new wood in the basement. Not a lot of the old stuff left inside. I have 2-1/2 cords dry outside under the porch though.
The ground hasn't been muddy around here for a long time, dry and hard as summer. So not fighting mud. So far just little spirts of rain in the 1/4" range about 4 times this month. Looks like showers for next two days, but nothing to brag about.
The ground hasn't been muddy around here for a long time, dry and hard as summer. So not fighting mud. So far just little spirts of rain in the 1/4" range about 4 times this month. Looks like showers for next two days, but nothing to brag about.
