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Spalted Maple
« on: November 08, 2004, 07:29:23 PM »
I was cutting up a tree that the power company downed when I got Electric run up the road. When I cut it I was wondering what the heck all the lines were in it. Jeff B. said it was Spalt and with further checking it was. This tree is at least 36 inches in diameter maybe bigger. and quite long. Do you think the whole tree has this Spalt?? I cut a few 20 inch logs from it at bout 20 inch diameter and it looks pretty consistent. What happens when I get to the base and what should I do with it
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Re: Spalted Maple
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2004, 08:03:56 PM »
Uhhhhhh...........
Stop cutting firewood logs from it and make some REAL nice boards out of it!!!

If the logs you cut off are from the top of the tree, then it's a safe bet that the whole log is spalted. Most of the standing dead ones I've seen start at the base and work up.

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Re: Spalted Maple
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2004, 08:06:52 PM »
I don't think you should waste your time with it ;). I'll come get it and leave you an equal pile of nice fresh firewood without those annoying lines running through it! ;D
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Re: Spalted Maple
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2004, 09:27:47 PM »
Now I know what spalted maple is !  Thats neat stuff
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Re: Spalted Maple
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2004, 04:15:03 AM »
That hunk was off the top of the tree. Probably have 4000#'s of it left from the base up...... Don't know if I should cut it in 10' sections or 12" pieces??  Any suggestions.

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Re: Spalted Maple
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2004, 04:22:49 AM »
A Spalted Sweet Gum Stool


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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2004, 04:59:35 AM »
Yup, Tom, that sure is some nice firewood you have. I'll bet that stool would fit right in the furnace and it's probably pretty well dry by now too.  You can just Fedex it right up here.  I'd even pay the freight.  ;D
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Re: Spalted Maple
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2004, 05:35:59 PM »
I still never got an answer as to how to cut this stuff up?? Timbers or small logs for woodworkers?? How should I look for buyers?? What will happen if it lays there another year?? Will it be worth more if it isn't stolen and ages?? Should I quit my job because I now have enough for retirement?? Appreciate a little input please. If you get a chance check out my webpage. Lot of good outdoor stuff on there.....

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Re: Spalted Maple
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2004, 06:05:15 PM »
Gizmo,
It all depends on what you plan to do with the lumber.
Either bring the logs to a mill, or have a mill come to you.
Cut the logs to what ever length boards you want, but add a little to the length for trim. 10' & 12' + trim is fine, I wouldn't cut them shorter then 8' + trim, unless I had to.

Ya might find someone who will take a chunk for turning, that you might be able to get out of one of the firewood pieces.

From the looks of the pic, there is plenty of spalt. Leaving it could allow it to rot, or maybe get even better. It's a gamble. :-/

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Re: Spalted Maple
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2004, 06:12:28 PM »
The tree has been laying for about 5 or so years now. When I get up there for deer season in 2 weeks, hell I'm taking the chainsaw to do a little cutting down at the base to see what that looks like....Hopefully it will have good spalt also.........Also hope I get a 14 pt Buck!!!


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Re: Spalted Maple
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2004, 06:18:59 PM »
Except for the smaller chunks that are already in firewood size, I would flat-saw it into 4/4 boards.  Spalt is pretty and is used for facia.  The construction pieces will probably be other solid wood for strength.  The value of a spalted board is difficult to assign because it depends on the buyer's needs rather than a market. A pretty piece of spalt can be several times the value of non-spalted board.  If it were me, I would use it myself.  You would be proud to have a piece or two of spalted furniture in your house.

Most furniture boards are cut 8 or 10 feet in length.  That allows for easy handling and transportation in a pick-up truck.

Don't bet on retiring on that one piece. :D :D

Spalt is the early stages of decay. If you leave it too long it will rot and be no good.  If you cut it too early, it may not be spalted through and through.  It's kinda like cooking a piece of meat.  Experience helps because you can't see inside.

As far as looking for buyers, you need to find a woodworker who knows what spalt is.  Some don't.  You could find one in a woodworking club if you have one locally or you could display it on Ebay or one of those type markets.
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Re: Spalted Maple
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2004, 06:42:30 PM »
I checked the ebay market and it's going for quite a bit. It's not the money it's the point of having something nice. Keep some for me and sell the rest I guess. If it wasn't for this board it would have been in the firepit. I thought it was petrified wood. Great timber jockey I am!!!!!! Thanks for the inputs................................. .... 8)

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Re: Spalted Maple
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2004, 11:58:12 PM »
Slice it through and through, check for sort spots, as in real soft.
Make sure you get 4 book matched boards, 9/4 for a nice dining table top and legs.
The heavy spalted beech tables i make (for abuot 109"x36") start around $3800 for some thing simple
So stop cutting bits or to have a look, did you say how long it was i cant remember, and dont know how to go back and check and keep the writing i've already done.
Cut at about 144" (usfull length) and check if you must, but get it milled up and sticker with CLEAN DRY sticks.





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Re: Spalted Maple
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2004, 02:00:38 PM »
A FF member taught me how to cut spalted maple turning blocks last year.  Really this was not much more than a chunk of firewood that I took a slice off with the chainsaw.



Gave a couple boards to a guy doing intarsia couple of months ago to see what he can come up with.

Started a splalting farm a couple of years ago where I have all kinds of logs in various stages of decay.
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Re: Spalted Maple
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2004, 02:19:39 PM »
Did  that spalt go the whole length of the tree??? Looks good from here.......... :D

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Re: Spalted Maple
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2004, 04:48:55 PM »
Larry Copas,  That piece in the photo looked curly as well? Extra bonus points. Quarter sawing will help bring out any curl as well as spaulting. Just finished drying a huge hollow hard maple. Curly on the outer white and spaulted to the inside. Tree was well over 12' in circumference. yeild a lot of cool wood and a lot of garbage. I hauled approximately 30,000 lbs of thet tree to my place and then handling ,milling drying.........on and on. I payed a lot for the pieces I got.

  Spault tends to "collapse" during drying, best to sell the stuff green and let the other take the risk on drying defects. The percentage of good and bad wood in a spaulted tree justifies the end price for the good stuff, that is several times market as stated earlier. It is a risky bet if you have good paying grade customers, that why the supply is limited. When it's good its real good, when it's not  it's garbage.
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Re: Spalted Maple
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2007, 10:59:03 AM »
This is a gun cabinet that I made with some of the spaulted Maple that I have







I used some highly figured curl and eye for the trim pieces


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Re: Spalted Maple
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2007, 11:03:40 AM »
Great it's done...... 8) 8) 8)

Did ya want me ta pick it up or are ya gonna ship it.. ???   ???   ???   :D  :D  :D

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Re: Spalted Maple
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2007, 11:30:10 AM »
Looks Like Pasbuild has become a picture postin MACHINE!

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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2007, 02:40:20 PM »
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