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Re: Very Interesting
« Reply #60 on: October 25, 2013, 08:33:19 PM »
HC, I agree. I sent Moony a PM with my post https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,64876.msg968385.html#msg968385 on this subject but never received an answer or comment, which is fine but I was surpised to see the LT10 owners still have to solve this issue themselves.

If you put these options on the LT10 you then have a LT15 so why not buy that? The 10 is a good mill for what it is but it is ENTRY level and priced as such step up an buy a bigger one with these features if you want them.

He's asking for a simple handcrank lifting system that works, that would be one option, that's it. Nowhere near the cost difference of an LT10 vs an 15.

Like buying a new car but ya gotta climb in through the windows, because the manufacturer is too lazy to have the doors open easily.

The LT10 is a great mill, just many of them have an issue that's not being addressed by the manufacturer efficiently by them, if its being addressed at all.
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Re: Very Interesting
« Reply #61 on: October 25, 2013, 08:56:59 PM »
jcbrotz,
  Reasons I bought a small mill is I wanted the exercise working the mill and it sure does that very well. Another reason is I'm cheap if you will. And finally at the age of 78 now 79 how much should I spend on a mill?
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« Reply #62 on: October 25, 2013, 09:06:32 PM »
Jim...at 79, You can spent as much as you DanG well please.  ;)
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« Reply #63 on: October 25, 2013, 09:57:46 PM »
Happycamper,

You are one smart dude.  I take my hat off to you. 
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« Reply #64 on: October 25, 2013, 10:56:52 PM »
Jim...at 79, You can spent as much as you DanG well please.  ;)

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I have talked to several of the service folks in Indianapolis including Jim Brown who I believe is the service boss at the top.  Jim is a great guy and alwayS lends us his TIME.  WM knows we have an issue out here and have heard the growing crowd but I honestly doubt those of us with new lt10's will ever get the system rectified because of the costs involved.  I hope they realize too that many of the LT10 owners will move on to larger machines someday which may or jay not include wood mizer products. 
Despite this one flaw I love my Wood Mizer lt10 and think IT HAS all that is needed to be a dependable well thought out machine with very capable people supporting their product.  I believe it's time for them to get back to work on that LT10's interesting attempt to provide a system that can  raise the head and then they will be able to retake the throne.   

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« Reply #65 on: October 26, 2013, 01:04:12 AM »
...   Jacob Mooney said last "March" he was looking into this matter for me and I am still waiting for a reply from him.

And that's not an acceptable response.

If it were me, I'd be asking him if he's looked into it yet. You shouldn't have to, but sometimes things don't go as they should.

If that didn't get a quick response I'd be getting in touch with someone else at WM. Sparks and Deanna B are also moderators of the WM sponsor page.

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« Reply #66 on: October 26, 2013, 05:30:54 AM »
Happycamper,

You are one smart dude.  I take my hat off to you.

Happy Camper,
   I totally agree with this statement, And can only hope I make it that long :D I hope to still have my lt40 running but we will only see what the big guy upstairs has planned. My only point it with all respect, it that the lt10 is trying to compete in the cheapest mill market so staying cheap a much over all other. I also agree that woodmizer should be working harder on fixing yours and others problems.
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« Reply #67 on: October 26, 2013, 09:16:00 AM »
jcbrotz,
  Reasons I bought a small mill is I wanted the exercise working the mill and it sure does that very well. Another reason is I'm cheap if you will. And finally at the age of 78 now 79 how much should I spend on a mill?
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Hey Jim,

You, being the inventer makes me want to run this by you.  I will plan on a boat crank when I can line up the materels.  Since I screwed around with my LT 10' air cylinders experimenting with different rated poundage cylinders, My mill goes up alright but the problem has not been eliminated but has been transferred.  The hardest movement is not really up but down.  It is very difficult when I get to the last two or three inches on the bottom of the cant (1" through 3").  So swapping cylinders back and forth will not help.  My saw head want to come  back up now and it is very hard to keep the unit down.

What would you think   about providing a stirrup for the lt10?  If an lt10 operator had the problem I have described and simply steps in this stirrup he could use his powerful leg muscles instead of his lower back to force the machine down for those last few cuts.   Jim and I have our LT10's slightly elevated on trailers so we dont have to work off the ground.

Just trying to make it easier.

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« Reply #68 on: October 26, 2013, 09:48:32 AM »
Rimshot,
  Until you install a crank system get a little pulley and rope system about $12.00 and connect that to the head. A slight tug on the rope will pull the head down to where you want it plus you will be able to watch the scale and set the depth easily.
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« Reply #69 on: October 26, 2013, 06:11:26 PM »
If you look at the LT 10 that Woodmizer sells in Europe, they have already solved the lift problem. I just finished building my copy of Happycampers crank system, now I'll have to wait before I get back to where it is so I can install it. Hopefully my 68 year old back will thank me.

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« Reply #70 on: October 26, 2013, 09:01:50 PM »
I am still "lurking" around and watching this thread!!! :)

After today especially! Groan!

Hmmmm, maybe one more glass of red wine will help! HA!
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« Reply #71 on: October 26, 2013, 11:17:22 PM »
Rimshot,
  Until you install a crank system get a little pulley and rope system about $12.00 and connect that to the head. A slight tug on the rope will pull the head down to where you want it plus you will be able to watch the scale and set the depth easily.
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Just came from EBAY ..  I got one for $13.99 shipped to my door. Thanks Jim
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« Reply #72 on: October 27, 2013, 10:21:27 AM »
Rimshot,
  Happy you found one it will make life easier till you put the winch on. Hopefully waho will post some photos of the one he made especially after it is installed. For a very few bucks it changes the whole attitude about the mill operation.
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« Reply #73 on: October 27, 2013, 12:47:27 PM »
 

  Jim, here is a pic of my lift. Unfortunately it will be a while before it gets installed. If you really want to feel bad, take a look at Woodmizer's German website for the new LT 10. Why them and not us.

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« Reply #74 on: October 27, 2013, 06:18:00 PM »
waho,
  Your system looks very professional, if fact you could market it. Congratulations and let us know how it works for you when you get it installed. As we already know the mizers in Europe are more expensive and my only point is that a simple winch system could be on those little mills for equal or quite possibly less money than the 2 cylinders, pulleys and cable system that they come with.
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« Reply #75 on: October 27, 2013, 06:30:22 PM »
On a small light weight mill that is stationary a counter weight might work instead of the gas cylinder, if there is room a counter weight with a snatch-block.( the weight 2x the travel)

Seams to me if WM is not willing to fix the problem the should at least offer a solution at a very reasonable price. Imo.


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