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General Forestry => Sawmills and Milling => Topic started by: jpgreen on August 29, 2007, 01:13:06 AM

Title: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: jpgreen on August 29, 2007, 01:13:06 AM
Anyone make or have a picture of a home made farm gate?

I need 2 and can't afford to buy steel right now.
Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: rbhunter on August 29, 2007, 01:38:37 AM
My Grand dad used to make wooden ones for the farm. If I remember right he used oak. I think they used to have four boards going accoss and three going up and down. One on each end and one in the middle. Than sometimes he would use a board going diagonally from the top on the side that hung on the post to the bottom of the otherside. Other times he would use a steel cable. I cannot remember the dimmensions of the lumber. It has been a long time. The last one must have been back in the mid 70"s.
Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: Ron Wenrich on August 29, 2007, 05:54:25 AM
I've used that design, but the diagonal should run from the bottom at the post side to the top of the open side.  It adds to the support.
Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: Dan_Shade on August 29, 2007, 08:04:07 AM
I think if you use a cable, you want it to go from the top of the hinge side to the bottom of the latch side, but if you use a board, you go from the bottom to the top.

you can't push with a string :)

Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: Don P on August 29, 2007, 08:09:35 AM
danG, I type too slow  :D

The way I was shown on doors or gates is to put a wooden diagonal the way Ron said. Wood does good in compression and it puts that strut in compression. If the diagonal is steel then it runs from the top hinge corner down to the bottom strike corner. Small steel cannot take any compression but can take loads of tension.
Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: Fla._Deadheader on August 29, 2007, 08:29:23 AM

I youster run the diagonal board from the bottom corner of unsupported end to ABOVE the gate about 3 feet, right to the post. Sometimes, that "push up" that goes from the post UP to the top unsupported end, will cause the gate to bow and sag sideways.

  I used 1 X 6 uprights, and 1 X 4 for the cross pieces. Didn't care that much if it didn't look prefesshunell, kept the Holsteins in.  ::) 8)
Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: jpgreen on August 29, 2007, 08:38:04 AM
Holsteins... those things make milk right?. ... ??? ;D
Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: jpgreen on August 29, 2007, 08:49:32 AM
1x sounds light and easy.  I basically need to keep kids out with their atv's as I just bought a fixer house and learned they had been using this property for a short cut..  ::)
Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: jpgreen on August 29, 2007, 09:02:06 AM
Found this one from "Handy Farm Devises" website:

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13183/gate.jpg)
Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: Dan_Shade on August 29, 2007, 09:03:47 AM
good luck on that.

put up a sign that says "all trepassers will be shot"  with the misuse of words, they may think you're off centered enough to do it!
Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: DanG on August 29, 2007, 09:21:56 AM
I like the one that says, "Trespassers will be shot.  Survivors will be shot again." ;D
Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: Dan_Shade on August 29, 2007, 09:28:42 AM
ack, I did my post wrong!

"all trespassers will be shoot!"

there used to be an old crazy fool down the road from where I grew up that had that sign out. 
Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: jpgreen on August 29, 2007, 09:39:35 AM
This area has a low, low crime rate as it's known as "Armed and Dangerous".

I like that..  ;D
Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: treebucker on August 29, 2007, 09:40:54 AM
It is becoming popular to support long gates with a legnth of small cable from the top of the latch end to about 5-6' up on the hinge post. There it is connected to a gate hinge. This is easier to build than the wheel design and works better when the snow is deep or the weeds are high. I've got a feeling that TSC has a special hinge for this.

Simple rules:
Outdoor - rot resistent species
Confinement areas (stables, corrals, barn lots, etc.) for large animals - thicker strong woods (1.5 - 2" thick) and higher designs (6'+)
Outdoor "line" gates - 3/4 - 1" rot resistent species. Mounted about 60" high.

I mainly use a design like rbhunter outlined. I use 5 rungs if I'm using 5" wide (or less) boards and 4 rungs if I'm using 8"+ boards. I try to be mindfull of an animal getting its head caught between the rungs. So I space the lower boards closer togather because shorter animals have smaller heads.  I make sure the top rung is strong as this is the one animals most often test by raring up and putting their weight on. I've found that it's easier to put the center upright on the opposite side of the end uprights. This allows the diagonal to be installed between the end uprights without being cut in two.

Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: DanG on August 29, 2007, 09:42:49 AM
 :D :D :D

Sometimes it's good to be thought a crazy old fool.  I've gone to great lengths to nourish that perception around here. ;D
Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: schmism on August 29, 2007, 10:39:20 AM
i think i want one that says something like

I shoot 1/2" groups at 300 yards.
         range to this spot 287yds
Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: rbhunter on August 29, 2007, 01:44:52 PM
I want to see the picture of the rifle you are shooting and the specs on that group.
:o   :D
Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: customsawyer on August 29, 2007, 06:25:03 PM
I like the one that says enter at own risk honey bees at work. ;D
Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: Dave Shepard on August 29, 2007, 10:43:48 PM
Anyone found here at night will be found here in the morning.


Dave
Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: jrokusek on August 29, 2007, 11:02:54 PM
A long time ago I was at an old run down gas station and saw a sign that said, "Shoplifters will be Prostituted."  I had to re-read that one a few times....
Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: pineywoods on August 30, 2007, 09:09:09 PM
Quote from: DanG on August 29, 2007, 09:42:49 AM
:D :D :D

Sometimes it's good to be thought a crazy old fool.  I've gone to great lengths to nourish that perception around here. ;D

Hey, I try to do the same here. Plus, I encourage the rumor that the one-armed old woman that lives here is a crack shot with a pistol.. ;D
Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: Mtnjack on September 01, 2007, 09:58:44 AM
Friends may enter, others not, friends will be fed and others shot!!!
Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: Ernie on September 01, 2007, 08:07:44 PM
Here are a couple of gates that we made last week, one is 3.5 meters long (11.5 ft) and the other 3.9.(12.75 ft)  They are made of tanalized pinus radiata, treated to H3.2.  All the timber, we milled on the farm.  We used 150 X 50 (2X6)  all the bolts are 3/8 ths galvanized.  The top gudgeons must be all the way through the posts with nuts on the backside of the post due to the weight of the gate, they would pull out otherwise.  the bottom gudgeons are the standard screw in ones
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12167/DSCN0766%20%28Custom%29%20%282%29.JPG)          (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12167/DSCN0767%20%28Custom%29%20%282%29.JPG) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12167/DSCN0768%20%28Custom%29%20%282%29.JPG) (https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12167/DSCN0769%20%28Custom%29%20%282%29.JPG)
Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: jpgreen on September 01, 2007, 10:39:10 PM
Nice gate thanks.  Nice lookin' critters too..  :)
Title: Re: Milled timber farm gate?
Post by: sawdust on September 02, 2007, 12:36:48 AM


Trespassers found here at night,,,, will be found here in the morning.

dc