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Author Topic: I want to log (small scale)!  (Read 6275 times)

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Re: I want to log (small scale)!
« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2013, 05:17:21 PM »
Dieselsteve,  I have been logging small scale for a few years now.  And I started with basically what you have.  I have a 55hp tractor, forks, fel, and a farmi winch.  And that is all I still have and use every week.  If I push at a good rate, I can easily, by myself, get 2 sawlog loads(6-8mbf) a week.  Although I started with just a chain, after some log sales, I bought the winch.  It is just easier to drag a log from places where getting into would be difficult or time consuming.  Yes, it would takes lotsa $$$ to log at a larger scale, but we are talking "small scale".  Another advantage is that less damage can be done and a cleaner property site is left for the landowner.  A happy landowner is your best advertisement for leads and expansion.  Also, my self-loader guy is a huge advantage for me.  He does all my loading and transport.  Why pay for the large skidder and a log truck and have not only the initial costs, but running costs and repair costs?  Not to mention time.  Those aren't cheap on the big toys and those pieces of equipment are not necessary for a small operation.  In my opinion, do just that...small scale.  I want all those pieces of equipment as well and thought I needed them immediately.  That was not the case and I make a comfortable living with what I have.  All you need for equipment you already own.  Except maybe a trailer to transport tractor/winch to the work site.  If business is good and you are enjoying what you do, those big toys will always be available for you down the road.  They are all on my list. ;D

All in all, you have lots of research to do as far as getting customers, the permitting for those customers' properties, mill prices and contracts, travel costs, daily operation costs, etc.  The planning is complex but will be valuable to you for your future in the biz. I love doing what I do and wish I had started sooner.  You will enjoy it too.  Good luck to you!

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Re: I want to log (small scale)!
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2013, 08:36:14 PM »
Michigan's Log Farm Plate doesn't give you a pass with the DOT.
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Re: I want to log (small scale)!
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2013, 09:21:07 AM »
No you will still get fines, just like everyone else but I think you don't have to have dot numbers if you have a log farm plate

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Re: I want to log (small scale)!
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2013, 11:01:45 AM »
No DOT numbers if you're 26,000 lbs or less.  That applies to everyone in state.  Cross state lines and you'd better have them.
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Re: I want to log (small scale)!
« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2013, 11:04:21 AM »
No you will still get fines, just like everyone else but I think you don't have to have dot numbers if you have a log farm plate

Why don't you want the DOT #s? They are free and takes less than 5 minuets to get them. I would guess the DOT would be less likely to bother you if they see you actually had the numbers?

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Re: I want to log (small scale)!
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2013, 12:01:21 PM »
The Numbers require annual vehicle inspections.  I've got them but when the new law went into affect and I didn't need  them any more I took them off the truck.
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Re: I want to log (small scale)!
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2013, 08:37:07 PM »
I thought it is a federal requirement for DOT numbers on any commercial vehicle over 10,000 GVW.
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Re: I want to log (small scale)!
« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2013, 09:02:02 PM »
I thought it is a federal requirement for DOT numbers on any commercial vehicle over 10,000 GVW.

Not in Michigan.  As long as you stay in the state and are 26,000 lbs or less you're good without #s.
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Re: I want to log (small scale)!
« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2013, 09:23:21 PM »
 I didn't know the weight limit pertained to log farm plates Ive seen semi's running log farm plates with no numbers before. one runnin a tanker and another runnin a lead.


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