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Title: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: campwags on August 06, 2017, 05:32:52 PM
I have a Kioti DK65s with farmi winch and forks or grapple.  I also have a Massey Ferguson 3300 that I want to trade in on something???  What do you use to move logs and finished lumber around with?  The Kioti is to large for some of the jobs I need done.  Any help or suggestions???   :P

Thanks,
Gary

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Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: Bruno of NH on August 06, 2017, 05:45:07 PM
Nice tractor
Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: Percy on August 06, 2017, 05:55:00 PM
We have a 966 and a 980 wheel loads for log truck unloading and moving etc. We have a 16000 lbs forklift for loading large lifts in a truck. The most used machine we have for moving lifts of lumber and small logs and  bucketing sawdust is a bobcat A300. It can load 5000 lbs with a skilled operator and is small enough and light enough to get into my mill shed/floor for moving stuff. We may get a second one soon as this machine is always in demand and never sits idle.
Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: Brad_bb on August 06, 2017, 06:49:34 PM
I've posted this before.  Most of the time I use my Farmall BN John's conversion forklift.  2500 LB capacity.


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Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: millwright on August 06, 2017, 07:16:50 PM
Bobcat skidsteer with grapple forks for about everything.
Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: YellowHammer on August 06, 2017, 07:37:45 PM
Cat loading dock style forklift.  It had changed the way we handle lumber as it's very fast, nimble, precise and can get into spaces we never could before. 

Logs go into the log deck using the loader, all other handling is done with the forklift. 
Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: Brucer on August 06, 2017, 08:45:59 PM
Cat 910 articulated loader with forks. 10,000 pound capacity.

At the end of the season (i.e., winter) I swaps the forks for the bucket. Clean up all the sawdust and then use it for snow clearing until spring.
Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: 4x4American on August 06, 2017, 09:31:06 PM
06 Cat 420E IT does log handling, most of the lumber loading, tails the edger, catches slabwood, scoops up sawdust, moves snow, burys dead bodies, etc  Rated for 6,600lbs and pushed to its limits frequently but she don't scare none.  1950s vintage Clark CFY 70 dually fork lift rated for 7,000lbs handles pallet cutstock, sometimes tails the edger, gets into tight places, lifts stuff the highest, and brings womenfolk to the yard.  Love em both.
Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: flatrock58 on August 06, 2017, 09:55:10 PM
50 hp 4wd Kubota with grapple.




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Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: JB Griffin on August 06, 2017, 11:07:04 PM
At work we use it14,28, or 38. The 38 has a wicker grapple.
At home I use my death trap mf 2500 forklift, no brakes, or steering sometimes. :o
Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: scsmith42 on August 07, 2017, 12:39:50 AM
I started with a Kioti DK65 but quickly moved on due to the difficulty in seeing the tips of the forks plus the limited capacity.

Small to medium sized logs are handled with a skidsteer with a grapple bucket.

Medium sized logs are handled with a Cat 420dIt backhoe with forks.

Large logs (up to 20k lbs) are handled with an Intl 530 articulating wheel loader.

Logs over 20k are handled with a 25 ton truck crane.

Lumber is handled primatily with the backhoe or articulating loader.
Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: paul case on August 07, 2017, 06:41:25 PM
For me the answer is yes and then some.
I have  a tractor with FEL and forks.
I have had 3 other tractor loader fork setups.
I am on my 4th and 5th 6k forklifts.
I also use my NH785 skid loader with forks bucket and other tools. Never had any grapple setups.
These all work well in their own way. Some even replace each other when the other is broke down.
PC
Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: redprospector on August 07, 2017, 08:02:38 PM
I use a Bobcat T-320 with forks, or a grapple, I also have and use an old International 9000 all terrain high lift. The International is bigger, and harder to get around, but it doesn't tear up the ground as bad as the Bobcat.
Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: Bigsticks on August 07, 2017, 10:27:10 PM
Skid steer. Period. I've had both. I like tracks. And caterpillar!
Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: DanMc on August 08, 2017, 06:32:55 PM
I have a 43 hp Jd4600.  I use pallet forks with chains and two log tongs to load logs on the mill.  I tried loading with the log on the forks, but it's tough to see behind the fork frame to be sure I don't ding the track.  After loading a log, I back up and rest the forks for loading the lumber while cutting.  Then I take the lumber and bring it to the stack on the forks.  It's not the most efficient approach, but it works.  If I did this for more than a hobby, I'd have a second machine to load logs and haul off the slabs, or a log ramp so multiple logs can be loaded and rolled onto the frame without having to move the tractor with each log.  I'm still figuring this out, as you can tell.
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Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: FloridaMike on August 08, 2017, 08:13:35 PM
45 hp 4x4 Cub Cadet tractor with loader/hay spear & junkyard salvaged forks.  New JD 5065E 67 hp 4x4 with 240 loader/forks/hay spear coming next week. 
Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: tmarch on August 08, 2017, 09:31:09 PM
Bobcat Toolcat and JD 5320 with FEL and 3 point forks.  So far so good.
Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: Tom the Sawyer on August 08, 2017, 11:12:37 PM
My workhorse is a Teledyne Princeton, piggyback style, forklift.  Floatation tires, turns on a dime and picks up 5000 pounds.  I have a device that slides on the forks and hangs a set of tongs which allows me to lift logs off of trailers with sides or fenders.

My latest acquisition is a used Bobcat S250.  It moves the mill in and out of cover, backs up the forklift, maintains the gravel areas, clears snow (if we ever get any) and can do other things.

Also have an LS, 4wd, 40hp diesel tractor with FEL, that moves and spreads sawdust, mows, etc. 

Just got a Frost Bite grapple for moving logs with the skid steer.  Also have a trailer spotter, a smooth bucket,  toothed bucket and a set of forks - all with quick attach mounts.
Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: dsaw on August 09, 2017, 09:55:37 PM
I'm a newbie, so just using my Kubota L3940 w/2 log tongs hung on chains from hooks on the bucket for now.  Hoping to upgrade my trailer soon, then add forks to the Kubota.
Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: etroup10 on August 10, 2017, 08:31:32 AM
Alt the shaving mill I work at I run a Gehl 330v with forks that have a grapple attached. At my sawmill I have a massey ferguson 50e with forks. They can handle about the same weight. I'd much rather have the skid loader over the tractor. A lot better visibility and quicker for loading logs.
Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: Dieseltim on August 10, 2017, 07:52:25 PM
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Ok here is a picture of my 2 helpers.
Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: Dieseltim on August 10, 2017, 07:59:36 PM
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My other log mover.
Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: DbltreeBelgians on August 10, 2017, 09:22:20 PM
DT, I like those tongs.  smiley_thumbsup Who makes them?

Brent
Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: petefrom bearswamp on August 11, 2017, 08:11:01 AM
8540 Kubota with forks.
I am also more careful than I used to be when handling logs..
Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: Dieseltim on August 11, 2017, 09:39:04 AM
Tongs and chain with hooks came from a tool company that is not allowed to be talked about on this forum.  Now Please read the Forestry Forum's postion on this company (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=position). Tongs $169.

I had seen and used a single tong with another guy loading logs with a boom pole on the back of his tractor. So, when I found the double tong I bought one for myself. They seem to be very well made and are HEAVY.

As with any tools and equipment, always use with caution. Anything that is man made can fail
Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: DbltreeBelgians on August 11, 2017, 03:39:13 PM
I understand  :-X.  Say no more.
Thanks,

Brent
Title: Re: What do you use, Tractor, skidsteer Trackloader or what???
Post by: Andries on August 13, 2017, 10:18:46 AM
Ford 545D with grapple.
The HEAVY lifter is in the background.
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I posted a winter picture - hoping it would give a little relief to the 'over-heated' Southerners on the Forum.  ;D