I could have put this under my fence thread, but I figure I might as well get it out in the open and not try to bury it with a small comment on another subject.
I sawed something that was not wood a little bit ago. Something not wood and a tad bit orange. :-\
AHaaa-a-a-a-a You've been initiated! :D :D
Well it's better that it happens quick and get it over with. ;D
Be sure to save that blade so we can all have a look at it while we eat piggy... ;D
The blade dont look bad at all, it just wont cut NATHIN any more. :D
Now I should really fess up that I almost hit the same backstop the first cut on the fresh blade but I didn't, so really, why am I telling you people that anyway? :D
Now there's a Man! Comes out clean and fesses up to the error of his ways. They say the first step is admitting you have a problem. ;D
Welcome to the club. It did not take long. I went about 6 months before I cut into Wanda but when I did it was a dandy. Since that time she bears many scars and not all mine.
PHOTOS we need PHOTOS
One photo should be all you need.
Good one eh?
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Jeff,
You will find that you will wear these little stories with pride in later years. They are almost a badge of honor. :D :D Yep, they are stupid things that get into our pockets. That wouldn't happen but that we were doing something.
:D
smiley_thumbsup_grin Wooo Hooo 8) Got a new member to da club. ;) :D
You da MAN, Boss. :D :D
Jeff,
Your supposed to cut the log not the mill!! :D :D :D :D :D smiley_bouncing_pinky smiley_bouncing_pinky smiley_bouncing_pinky
You have now joined an elite club.
Ron
I always weld those over ASAP, paint them and artificially age the paint to make it blend. Inevitably, every joker who sees a cut into the post comes up with some 'wise' crack about my sawing abilities that I've already heard a million times before. ::)
Instead, with my mistakes covered, people ask "Do you ever forget to lower those and hit them?" to which I reply "Nah!" :D
4:30 p.m. on a hot day is when my posts are most in danger. ;)
Jeff, nice try, you almost made it all the way through :D :D
Oowwooch!
It's that there 'club' that you just couldn't wait to get into? :)
Couldn't this be a sawmill mod, where one puts on a steel cutting blade first, right off the bat, and cuts those corners off, and be done with it? (and still get into the 'club') ??? ::) ::) ???
I was hoping you would wait until da Piggy Roast to show us how that is done. Too late now.
Well, now you have heard that unpleasant screeching sound. I have heard it too (ain't going to admit how many times), first thing that goes through my mind is "DanG there went a $20 bill"
did ya ever put the feet down and the one just sticks up a little and your to lazy to dig out some dirt. Well I am only cutting 8 footers so it wont matter. Then you have one log just around 10 foot and you cant figure out why one board is really tapered. Havent cut one of the feet yet but lotsa scars on the clamp, only a nick or two to the stops though. Also have managed to beat up the blade guard preety bad to where it needs to be welded again. :D :D
I've got a whole handful of teeth around here somewhere that came from when I was a sawyer about 30 years ago. I think I was running the resaw at the time.
I figured them teeth would make a good conversation starter or a souvenir to give my grandchildren. :-\
Jeff,
One more fresh blade and you will probably be ALL THE WAY through and won't have to worry about those darn last 2" of that post. Perhaps the next one you can geet through with the first blade. 8)
I had a fresh full chisel chain on my Husky and DARN it forgot how far out that forklift apron stuck out (extra wide, two aprons welded together). Amazing how long it took for me to respond to the chatter. Amazingly little damage to the chain and a very big chunk out of that heavy steel............interesting. :-\
REID
Welcome to the club!
Quote from: Jeff B on June 16, 2005, 06:36:34 PM
I could have put this under my fence thread, but I figure I might as well get it out in the open and not try to bury it with a small comment on another subject.
I sawed something that was not wood a little bit ago. Something not wood and a tad bit orange. :-\
:D :D :D Good hit. ;D Did ya have a big audience, be a shame ta waste all dem pretty sparks if dar wasn't anybody ta see um. :)
There was a half dozen people in the driveway that heard it and came to see what I did....
WELCOME TO THE CLUB
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YOU CAN ALWAYS BE PERFECT IF'N YA NEVER DO ANYTHING
Jeff,
Those cuts are easy to fix with a arc welder, it makes them disappear.
When you saw off the handle of your cant hook, then you got something to talk about!
Just remember the sound it made .It is very distinctive isn't it .
Welcome to the sawyer ranks on your band mill.
Now that you finally did it. Fess up again ... It wasn't nearly as traumatic as sawing into something with one of those big-ol' circle mills - and not nearly as expensive, was it?
Welcome to The Forestry Forum, Jeff B.
Alot of nice folks here so welcome. ;D
EZ
Shoot,that little bitty cut ina post,oughta see what a Norwood can do ;D ;D ;D ;D
did ya make it 4/4?
Why did you stop, you were almost through? :D
Whoa !!! That's a good one !!! I betcha your going to be a little paranoid
now !! And now your a Full member of the Band Saw Club :D :D :D ;D
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Nanananananaaaaaa I was like you once, went several years without cuttin orange............and then one day, my head got deflated :D :D :D :D It was a relief actually, couldnt find a hat that fit....... :D :D :D
I've only hacked into our 2002 mill "real good" one time. I've had the turning arm up and ran the debarker into that a couple of times.
In all the years and hours Mary's been sawing, I think she's nipped the paint off the top of one back suport one time. ::)
Nice try, Jeff! ;D
Next time get a Monkey blade. They have no problem going all the way thrue. I KNOW it needs Ø 1" solid iron to stop them, even after they´ve been used in wood for half a day. ;)
Swede.
Way to go Jeff, 8)
Now that you're broken in, you need to start working on your form. I've been working on my soon-to-be copyrighted technique of my LCLDMSS
Large Crowd Long Distance Metal Strike Sprint ;D
With the Sprint back to the controls you have tons of time to be creative and express your artistic skills. ;D ;D
11 years of sawing. Struck mill post once. Struck long dog handle once. 2 strikes total. All strikes on first mill. No Strikes on second mill. We need replies that list the number of strikes. Three strikes your out. If you can't remember the number of strikes your WAY out
I put the initials of my sawyers on the log turner when they hit it. Been done twice now. The uprights have been hit by every sawyer. We have had several over the 8 years we have had the mill. The worst is when they saw into the log clamp. I tell them they will do it once, then they are paranoid and they very seldom hit metal twice. It has been years since I nipped a dog. Thought it would pass. Then you hear that tiny ting!!!! :o :o
This club is getting bigger all the time, join now, make new friends, welcome Jeff.
:D :D :D :D :D ;) ;) :D :D :D :D :D
what ya mean twice .. some of ya aint tellin the total truth .. cause I know I've hit them uprights alot more than just twice ::) ::) ::)
Jeff ya should just finished it :D :D :D cause next time .. (oh yes there will be a next time).. you'll want that Dang dog to be shorter anyway ;D
I was just talking about the log turner. The log clamp has been hit enough to require welding, the back stops who knows, even the little clamp for small logs got hit several times. I was right in there with the founding members in 1983 when I hit the log stop. I was really upset, didn't think anyone could be that careless to hit a piece of metal plainly visible. I can remember where the mill was sitting and the cedar log I was sawing. It was that traumatic. But now I know everyone does it, even "da boss", so I feel a little better.
This might be one of those urban legends but...
Years ago one of my Wood-Mizer tech support buddies told me the story about a guy that called into tech support because he'd saw just so far and the sawhead would bind up and make the awfulest sound and go no further – even if he pushed it. They checked out every possible problem over the phone and he'd try again. This went on for several calls and multiple attempts. The guy called them back and told them he'd found the problem, he had sawed into the manual clamp! If you've not seen a manual clamp on an LT30/40 mill, it's main vertical member is a solid bar about 1-1/2" in diameter!
:D :D :D :D :D :D *RATFLMAO*
Thank U Bibbyman!
Then I can tell you without too much shame................. One day I ruined TWO blades by hiting bearings at top of my poles! 8) Bet noone have done better! ;D
That metal is hard even for a Monkey blade. Fits better for cirkular sawing after slipping over them bearings, all teeth is pointing upwards and just work upwards too!
Swede.
I have been avoiding this topic. I guess it is time I fess up. I am not a member of the " club". :( I was told when I bought my mill 830 hrs ago that I was not a serious sawyer untill I sawed into some part of the mill. I suppose I'm not much of a sawyer. smiley_crying
Jeff gets a mill and before long he almost saws off a back support. That just shows that he is a lot better sawyer than I am. ;) Maybe if I keep sawing , one day I can pay the dues and be allowed to join the club. 8)
Pigman, it was inevitable for me to hit it as my sawing style has always been all out. I'm already trying to figure out a way to get my durn up lift to go faster. That downright slows down even my thinkin.
Jeff,
Try feeding it lots of oil, grease and petrol, it might just grow into a Super for you. ;)
After watching that video of you running the big mill at work, I bet it must really seam like slow motion. I can see where you lost your train of thought.... you porbably were thinking about the cuts in the logs down the line because you already had the one you were sawing figured out.
:D Really. My mind is usually 3 cuts into the log and I am still waiting for the head to come up so I can run it down and get ready to make the first cut.
Hitting the backstop was dumb. I was sawing a cedar that had been split in half. I put the split face up for the first cut, so the stops were actually under the curve of the log where I could not see them. Out of sight---Out of mind. :o
It doesn't matter whether you were paying attention or not. Sometimes, "stuff" happens. ;) ;D ;D :D
umm... I sawed into one of my backstops, then changed the band... then proceeded to saw into another one...
i'm good at sawing into metal!
Out of sight---Out of mind??
I've been out of my mind for years and still have not had a cut like that. But then, I just lay my logs on the ground and hack away, I'd hate to think of the damage I'd do with a band mill and all those stick up bits:D :D :D
I was watching a guy saw one time in Fla (hint) And on the very 1st cut of the afternoon with a freshly sharpened blade he hit the stop. I won't mention any names though Harold ;) ;D ;D :) :) :)
:D :D :D
Now Greg, I TOLD ya I was giving ya the whole realm of how ya saw with a bandmill. Thataway, when you took over, you wouldn't feel bad if you did it. ::) ;D :D :D
Dad always tries to get me to run homey when I'm working with them. I always say NO because I KNOW that if I saw something that is not wood I would be in big trouble! :( :( :(
I always work from the other end pulling the slabs and lumber. :D :D
D'oh! :(
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Pigman, it took me a long time to make the club but I figured out how to gain membership very easily. ;D Invite all of your buddies and friends for a demonstration of your mill and sawing abilities. smiley_blush Guaranteed club membership. I quite frequently re-new my membership when sawing in the presence of spectators. smiley_blush smiley_blush
Won't Pick up my mill till July19. I've not seen touch up paint on the Woodmizer site. Can any one direct me? Fortunately I do have a 220V ESAB Mig and a 4" grinder and need to be sure the paint matches. :D
Haven't got the dogs yet, but I managed to cut a nice slit into the 6" clamp on mine. That's the only "orange metal" I've sawn so far... but your right, the spectators were very entertained.
Ive hit that small detachable clamp thingy
and skimmed the arms twice
not quite in the "pro" club yet :D
iain
Quote from: iain on June 23, 2005, 07:14:56 PM
Ive hit that small detachable clamp thingy
and skimmed the arms twice
not quite in the "pro" club yet :D
iain
You ain't hardly in the amature status yet. :D :D I think I have hit every possible metal piece on my mill except the log turner and I expect to get that in the next year or two. :o ;D
I haven't cut into the mill yet, but I was showing my 15 year old daughter how to use the new hedge trimmers without cutting the cord. Thats right, on the second bush I cut my good heavy duty outdoor cord in two. My daughter just smilled and said I did a good job showing her what can happen if she was not careful. ::)
I replaced the rollers on my norwood dogs with 3" aluminum disks for a reason........Aluminum cuts easier :D :D
Jason
There, ya see, Corley ??? Pigman demonstrated just like I did. ;D ;D ;D :D
This could be one of those myth stories you hear about and could happen on any mill I guess. I heard this over 10 years ago.
A guy was cutting a block stood on end and clamped tight. He was cutting 1 inch blocks from the top down. He was reaching over the blade and holding the top block. He had his fingers stuck over an inch down on the other side. He made them all even. Ouch, Ouch, Ouch.
Better to hit metal than flesh anytime.
My granddad evened out his untiedily lined up fingers twice about 15 years apart
and a friend (pro wood worker) evened out his accross the top of a planer, three times accross before he noticed the blood,
he said the worst thing about it, was that he had to clean out the dried up stuck on bits when he got back to work
iain
Guy comes into the doc with all his fingers sawed of. Doc says my god how did you do that? Reply I was holding a small piece of wood with both hands and it jumped and my fingers all hit the blade.
Doc Where are your fingers?
Reply back at the shop.
Doc why diden't you bring them in we might have been able to reattach them.
Reply: After a long pause. What would I pick them up with???????
I saw a guest reading this and thought, wow, I never fessed up for the next two times I hit the uprights. :D Wonder if 3 is the charm? The last two times were a few thousand feet ago now, but they were both done while edging. :-\
I got to saw my dog the first day. I was alone. ;D
Pics please. ;D
I don't ever mess up like That. ;D
I was using my gooseneck trailer for a green chain today. I had about 300bf of pine stacked on it when it came time to move it. Now, I move this thing around the yard all the time, sometimes several times a day, without bothering to latch the hitch. Never had a problem. This time, I guess it was a bit tail-heavy, and when I looked in the mirror, it was headed down the hill, just a-bobbing up and down like an oil well pump. It climbed up on a stack of lumber, and came to rest gently, with no damage except some tire tracks on a few boards and a messed up stack. I think I'll put the pin in, from now on. ::)
Now, that would make a good picture.
I don't do stuff like that either. ;D
I had a whoopsie the other day when I was getting the mill ready to go to the saw job. How come somebody never told me not to put the back jacks all the way up before I locked the sawhead down and hooked up to the truck? I didnt take a picture of the mill with its tongue about 6 foot in the air. It took all Stacy and I had to get it back down so we could run the head back up to offset the weight. Sure looked silly sitting out there for a bit. :)
Hmm I never done that before. :D
I'm beginning to wonder if you've ever done ANYTHING! ;D :D :D :D
I only own up to what I want to, DanG. :D :D
You better fess up or I'm gonna ask Gael.
Oh no! Don't throw me in the briar patch. ;D
::) I haven't done that either Jeff ................. in several years. What's embarrasing is when you have to ask the customer to help you pull the tongue back down. A friend of mine was changing out cam follower rollers while on the job one day and the whole head fell off. Mast and all.
I bought me one of those "farm Jacks" sometimes called a "hi rise" . It's been a real handy thing around the mill. I need to get a second one. This one was $30 on sale at Harbor Freight.
The worst thing that's been happening to me since I've been sawing a lot more is that about once a week I tend to saw out one of those VERY long wedges.
'Corse, It's always Mary's fault - if she's there or not - because she should have seen the toe board was up.
Tom's never done that. (I just added that so he wouldn't have to.) ;D
What's really fun, Bib, is when you are centering the pith, have sawn all four faces and it is just about the best you have ever done. You are really pleased with yourself because it is the finest log in the pile. Then you notice that back toe board is still right where you left a couple steps ago :o
Not that I have ever done that myself, personally. Oh, no. But it sure sounded funny when Tom told it to me. :) :) :) ;D ;)
I never fib either, just like everyone else here ::)
Isn't those the ones you put off to one side with a sign that reads "Specially Sawn Tapered Porch Columns" over them. ;D
Hmmmmmm that's a good marketing ploy. I'll have to remember that, just in case I ever do it. ;D
Those high-lift jacks can be very dangerous, if you don't keep the "locking pins" well oiled. I have 3 of this type jack, the copies of the original (jack made before WWII) don't have the right spring tension and will drop the load when letting the jack down. I have had this happen a couple time and now have a bolt that I place in the the holes of the beam about 6inch below the jack handle. If the pins don't go in right, the load won't fall all the way.
When I had just built my mill and was gettin the bugs out,I had not yet welded the stops at the end of the track,I had vise grips clamped on so I would'nt run off the end....but I forgot that I took them off and ran the saw head right off the end.It landed on it's face,still running.I may have said DANG that day......called a wrecker to put it back on the track.I have found that the stupidity of your actions are directly proportional to the number of people watching...thats why I prefer to work alone >:( >:(
Getting the mill ready to move to a job ...
When I started backing up, there was a lot of jerking and banging, as though the mill brakes were switching on and off. Got out to investigate, and discovered "Mistake 1" -- I forgot to lift the front leg. It was dragging over and through the hard clay in my field. Lifted the leg to the travel postion, got back in the truck, and pulled forward. More jerking and banging. Looked in the mirror and saw the back end of the mill sticking up in the air. Got out to investigate, and discovered "Mistake 2" -- I forgot to latch the hitch. When I was backing up with the leg down, it lifted the hitch off the ball, so the mill was being pushed by the bumper. When I pulled forward, the hitch slid off the bumper and dropped to the ground.
Fortunately, I forgot to make "Mistake 3". I didn't forget to hook up the safety chains so the mill was still under control. I was lucky, nothing got damaged (but the license plate on my truck has a great orange streak across it). I was really lucky that there were no customers around ;D
Quote from: SAW MILLER on October 28, 2005, 07:40:52 PM
I have found that the stupidity of your actions are directly proportional to the number of people watching...thats why I prefer to work alone
I'm gona' remember that one! Somewhere I heard that the definition of character is: thats what you do when nobodys looking.