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Re: Wonít Be Sawing For A While
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2021, 12:35:49 PM »
Otherwise we end up bent, spindled and mutilated. 
That would be me.   :)
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« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2021, 01:56:09 PM »
The bone doc will tell you the meniscus repair will fix it, but not like new.  Depending on how much he/she trims, the repair is temporary.  Don't wait too long on the knee replacement when the pain returns.  Replacement will fix the knee, but the leg muscles will not understand the changes.  My knee is fine, but leg muscles may never catch up.  Good Luck!

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Re: Wonít Be Sawing For A While
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2021, 07:35:28 PM »
I tore meniscus in both knees in a car accident in 1985 , the left one was fixed the same year . i put off the right one for 20years ,should have done it sooner the day after surgery it felt better than it had in years .The only issues I've had is some stiffness in my knees when I stay still to long .Walking 5-10 miles a day helps more than anything else .Hope and pray for fast recovery .
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Re: Wonít Be Sawing For A While
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2021, 08:19:12 AM »
knees suck!  I more than feel your pain sir!  I completely tore my ACL and MCL 9 years ago at same time..  2 surgeries later and it still isn't right..  I can do everything but sprint and jump alot..  never have or will trust my knee again. it lets you know when it is time to slow down sometimes now..  

that was a long recovery.. 

get better, order that laser for your mill..  it will give you something to tinker with!  sharpen up all your bands you have , clean up stuff...  order up your maintenance parts and be ready for when you heal up. 


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Re: Wonít Be Sawing For A While
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2021, 08:26:53 AM »
Michelle had a partial replacement this spring, that went really well. She did her pt, there is a stationary bike in the living room with mileage on it. She goes in for the hip tomorrow, that is going to take awhile.
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« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2021, 01:04:53 PM »
The bone doc will tell you the meniscus repair will fix it, but not like new.  Depending on how much he/she trims, the repair is temporary.  Don't wait too long on the knee replacement when the pain returns.  Replacement will fix the knee, but the leg muscles will not understand the changes.  My knee is fine, but leg muscles may never catch up.  Good Luck!
I tore the meniscus in both knees in my 20ís and had the tears repaired. Eventually my knees failed and I had the first replacement this past March and second replacement is scheduled for November. Iím an avid mt biker (mike belben rode with me when he was still in MA) and after 3 months of rehab was back out on the trails. I have a trainer set up in the house Iím on twice a day.

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Re: Wonít Be Sawing For A While
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2021, 07:47:15 PM »
Did follow up with the doctor today. Arthroscopic surgery is next. 

We talked about everything from doing nothing to knee replacement.  We even discussed some recent ďalternativeĒ treatments.  Arthroscopy is the best choice at this point.  My knee is otherwise completely healthy besides a bad tear in the medial meniscus.  

Traditional sawmilling is out but I did something different on Saturday.  My best customer was on the schedule for sawing.  So I took the mill and ďcoachedĒ him through sawing his own logs for 2/3 of my normal hourly rate.  I got to sit and point a lot. 

He made around 600 board feet with no major mistakes.  Iíll likely be doing this again with him as I recover. I wonít be doing this with just any customers but it worked with him. 
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« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2021, 08:23:03 PM »
So I took the mill and ďcoachedĒ him through sawing his own logs for 2/3 of my normal hourly rate.  I got to sit and point a lot.
Was he beside himself with excitement that he got to run your mill???
If that had happened to me, I'd be grinning ear to ear the entire time.

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« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2021, 09:15:33 PM »
He really enjoyed it for sure. Afterwards he did say he appreciates the difference in experience.  While he comes from a family of lumbermen, he recognized its not as easy as it looks.  
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Re: Wonít Be Sawing For A While
« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2021, 09:41:49 PM »
He really enjoyed it for sure. Afterwards he did say he appreciates the difference in experience.  While he comes from a family of lumbermen, he recognized its not as easy as it looks.  
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Re: Wonít Be Sawing For A While
« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2021, 10:16:11 PM »
He probably would've paid  1 and 1/3 of your regular rate, for getting to run the mill😁
Too many irons in the fire

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Re: Wonít Be Sawing For A While
« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2021, 10:23:51 AM »
Sorry to hear of the knee issue.  Sounds like you have a great attitude and a wonderful wife to support ya!  I wish you the best on your journey to recovery.

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Re: Wonít Be Sawing For A While
« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2021, 02:06:52 PM »
Thank you for all the kind replies and for the advice and encouragement from those who have been through this.
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Re: Wonít Be Sawing For A While
« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2021, 03:44:11 PM »
Been there, done that. Hope it goes well. Mine did for many years, then had 3 knee replacements in 14 months!!  Tomorrow is the 6 month check up on the last one. My Doc knew ďourĒ type and told me donít be stupid!  Lucky my mill is hydraulic, works good sawing from a chair if you have some good help. 
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Re: Wonít Be Sawing For A While
« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2021, 10:34:16 PM »
@SawyerTed Are those Sun Drop cans in that cooler?

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Re: Wonít Be Sawing For A While
« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2021, 07:03:01 AM »
Yes, Sundrop is one of my vices. 
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« Reply #36 on: October 26, 2021, 07:43:11 AM »
Have patience and allow nature and the doctors to get you  healed.  Praying for you and a speedy recovery.  
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Re: Wonít Be Sawing For A While
« Reply #37 on: October 26, 2021, 08:02:31 AM »
Everybody is different, so I can only tell you my situation.  The meniscus thins out with age, it starts to tear very easily.  It's a fact of getting older.  I had my hip replaced in 2014 and my knee hurt even then.  So I'm not afraid of that track and I was told I would need a new knee in 3 years, or 2017.  However, I'm still on my real knee.  I even went to a surgeon and could barely walk for the pain in my knee, years ago.  I wanted to try everything.  I had the Scope surgery.  I started physical therapy with a "real" physical therapist, not a 25 year old, just out of school, hospital cookie cutter one.  I also got an injection in my knee to get the swelling down.  Due to the pain, my muscles has stopped properly aligning my knee, and I was bone on bone anyway.  The more I walked, the more pain I was in, the weaker my muscles got, and the more pain I was in.  I eventually got to the point where I could not sit on a 5 gallon bucket and stand up straight up without using my hands.  My weak muscles were putting much more load on my joints and making matters worse.

There were two options.  Get a new knee and build up my muscles again, or do everything I could and build up my muscles again despite the pain, and hopefully the pain will start to go away.

Before long, my knee, while still hurting, started working better.  Part of physical therapy is doing stairs, which was not fun.  However, at my 3 month followup, the doctor walked in the office, folder in hand, and opened with, "Well I just don't see how we can avoid surgery, your old X ray is a mess."  I exclaimed, "Not so fast, I walked up the 3 flights of stairs to your office, and my knee feels good, not great, but good."  He was shocked.  That was years again.  He X rayed me again, my joint was lining up correctly, my pain was down.  No, I can't run without it hurting, that's too much.

I have settled down to a few basic exercises every day.  I slowly walk up and down 10 flights of stairs every day, in my barn, before I do anything.  Doing steps was part of my original PT, and I still do it.  160 stair steps, every day.  It doesn't sound like much, but for a guy with a bum knee, it sure taxes my will.  However, about halfway through, my quadriceps start to burn (one of the major knee alignment muscles, indicating its still weak, but getting stronger), and my knee starts to warm up, and the knee pain starts to go away for most of the day.  I also do a couple basic stretching exercises, and that's it.  I am also very careful on it.

I'm doing all this with my Doctor intently watching.  My physical therapist supervisor, who is a physician in the same practice "Sports Med of Huntsville" says she rarely sees a person continue the PT, although, in some people, like me, it does wonders.

Anyway, I know at some point I will need a new knee, who know, maybe in a couple months, who knows?  But not right now.  However, as others have said, joint replacement that come with its own issues, just as my titanium hip has.  

So, my advice, which means nothing, is to take it conservatively, step by step.          

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« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2021, 09:49:13 AM »
I appreciate hearing othersís experiences with knee trouble and so many full or nearly full recoveries.  Other than this knee pain Iím otherwise a healthy and active 59 years young.  We just got new electric pedal assist bicycles Iíve been dying to try out.  Living with this pain isnít a viable option nor is continuing this slug-like limited activity 5h1t. :( 

Yellowhammer, the doctor has described the thinning of the meniscus as we age.  She also talked about the fraying of the thin edges of the meniscus.  Apparently the MRI shows a complex tear of the body of the medial meniscus, meaning the tear is actually two tears starting from the same location and going two directions.  The edges are intact. She anticipates the surgeon will do a repair rather than remove the torn area.  But the surgeon will make that decision during the arthroscopy.  The surgeon is one of the best knee doctors in our area.  He fixed this knee 25 years ago when I had some issues from an injury when I was an ďindestructibleĒ adolescent.

PT is coming right after the surgery.  Everything is set for Thursdayís surgery.  Pt will be a week from Friday. They seemed anxious to get it scheduled.   Iím thinking thereís a masochistic slant to that business.  My Dad had to go through PT a few times over the last few years.  He calls it pain and tortureÖ..lol

This bout of knee pain has been off and on for about 10 or 12 months.  I tried to keep my normal activity level for as long as I could.  The last six months has progressively gotten worse.  Over the six months I did exercises the doctor prescribed and cortisone shots.  We took a conservative approach but the knee got worse.  Up until October 2nd Iíve done everything as normal.  That day I did a good bit of solo sawing.  On the drive home the pain was excruciating.  Iíve gone through some painful stuff before including kidney stones.  My knee pain is significant (not the ďI think Iím going to dieĒ kidney stone pain) but significant.  

My wife encouraged me to do something about it so here I am.   

As far as sawing goes, Iíve had to reschedule or postpone several jobs.  A few others Iíve turned down completely and suggested some other area sawyers.  A few have called back to say they will wait for me.  As best I can tell that means at least 14 jobs of a half day or more on the books for after my recovery.

Iíve gotten no indication on how long recovery to ďsawing formĒ might take.  Iím guessing a few weeks.  Maybe Iíll be in fishing condition in a couple weeks,
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« Reply #39 on: October 26, 2021, 10:16:35 AM »
Before and After my back surgery I went to Work Hardening Physical Therapy . . it was very brutal ! 
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