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Question: When is it just too DanG hot?
Option 1: Under 70 votes: 2
Option 2: 71-75 votes: 3
Option 3: 76-80 votes: 7
Option 4: 81-85 votes: 9
Option 5: 86-90 votes: 21
Option 6: 91-95 votes: 25
Option 7: 95+ votes: 35
Option 8: Its never too DanG hot votes: 8
Title: Poll: Hot
Post by: Ron Wenrich on June 19, 2006, 05:57:26 AM
Expires:7/3/06

At what temperature do you finally sit back and say its just too DanG hot. 

Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: asy on June 19, 2006, 07:02:38 AM
Ron,

I was going to say 40C, even found an Online Temperature Converter (http://www.convert-me.com/en/convert/temperature) but to no avail.

It tells me the conversion is 104F, but 95F is only 35C, which is normal summer here.

But there IS a "Too dang hot", it's 40C.

I'll vote for 95+.

asy :D
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: DanG on June 19, 2006, 07:20:40 AM
95+ for me, too.  91-95 is pretty much normal here, so ya kinda gotta function in it.  The older I get, the less well I do in the heat.  Ask me again next year and the answer might be different. :-\ :D
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: pigman on June 19, 2006, 08:06:12 AM
I try not to work if it is over 80 and if it is under 75 it is too cold to work. :(
Wife says I'm just lazy. ;D
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: Quartlow on June 19, 2006, 08:19:25 AM
All depends, last week or so its been in the high 80's but it wasn't too humid so you could work outside
yesterday wasn't any hotter but it was humid as al get out, I stayed inside, well except for getting out the window ac units and putting them in.

I tend to get used to it. first summer home after GA folks here where complaing about the heat and my nephew and I where like what do you mean this is nice  :D

It gets below 25 and I want to stay inside too  :D
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: IL Bull on June 19, 2006, 08:25:53 AM
Quote from: DanG on June 19, 2006, 07:20:40 AM
  The older I get, the less well I do in the heat.  Ask me again next year and the answer might be different. :-\ :D

I resemble that remark. :D
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: JimBuis on June 19, 2006, 08:38:11 AM
95+ is too hot for me if I have a choice in the matter.  That's when it's time to prop your feet up in the shade and sip some ice-cold homemade lemonade.

IMHO,
Jim
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: OneWithWood on June 19, 2006, 08:43:20 AM
The temperature is only one component  of the thing.  It can be too hot anywhere over 85 if the humigdity is above 80%.  smiley_sweat_drop
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: Burlkraft on June 19, 2006, 09:18:29 AM
Quote from: DanG on June 19, 2006, 07:20:40 AM
95+ for me, too.  91-95 is pretty much normal here, so ya kinda gotta function in it.  The older I get, the less well I do in the heat.  Ask me again next year and the answer might be different. :-\ :D

91-95 + is normal ??? ??? ??? ???  DanG you gotta move  ::) ::) ::) The heat must be like the cold....

I usta like that below zero crap...It was invigorating.....Now I stay real close ta the fire :D :D :D
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: pappy on June 19, 2006, 09:31:10 AM
Anything over 75 for this northern Maine boy... our blood never really thins out cause the summers are so short... I prefer a sunny balmy 25 degrees and my sled (snowmobile to y'all sun-nun-ners)  :D  Now that's comfortable   ;D
So the only  prescription is more shade and your favorite beverage... ;)


Quote from: OneWithWood on June 19, 2006, 08:43:20 AM
The temperature is only one component of the thing. It can be too hot anywhere over 85 if the humigdity is above 80%. smiley_sweat_drop

OWW dats fer sure   :o   Only 85 here today (92 yesterday) but it's the Dang hu mids a tea...
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: Furby on June 19, 2006, 10:23:19 AM
Yup, I can't vote as it's all about the humidity not the temp!
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: Tom on June 19, 2006, 01:05:14 PM
While I can still go in 95°,  my exposed skin begins to burn.  I don't mean suntan type burn, I mean burn like you're standing too close to the fire.   At 95°, it starts to become difficult to keep your body hydrated.  This is important to recognize for co-workers as well as yourself.

As a sawyer, I am not expending the physical energy that the off-bearers are.  It is just about as difficult on the body because I'm having to work constantly to provide intermittant work for others. But, the others are having to strain, and that is very taxing. 

It's up to the person who is driving the pace to look out for his co-workers.  Just because you aren't being affected doesn't mean that they aren't about to drop out.  Some workers won't complain and will find themselves on the ground.  It's a macho thing, peer pressure, ignorance, or whatever, but real.

When you see your off-bearers starting to huff and puff, getting red in the face, making comments about the heat, then reach up there and turn the danged motor off.  Production has never been more important than life.

A water cooler next to the work area is important too.  When it is 95°, a worker should be constantly intaking water. Electrolytes are important too, so sports drinks may be handy.  But Water is the life's blood.   Don't put your water container so far from the work area that a worker must leave to use it.  Keep those things like water and snacks within an arms reach all of the time and you will find that they won't be abused.

Hats are important too.  A full brimmed hat will keep the sun off of your face, ears and neck.  It may not be as good looking as baseball cap to the fashion conscience, but, it is much more functional.  You can be a leader by ignoring the jests and wearing cooling clothes yourself.  Other's egos will break down when they recognize that the image requirement has changed.

As the sawyer, take responsibility for the entire operation.  You may get kidded about being a wimp, but, suck it up laugh and stand your ground.  Force breaks when those around you are suffering.  You may all live longer.

Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: Murf on June 19, 2006, 02:12:24 PM
I'm with OWW's theory, it's the humidex that matters, not da thermomentator thingey.....  :D

I also like Tom's logic, if my back still worked, and I wasn't 1,000 miles away I'd gladly be at the other end of the mill from him any day, a good person is a easy to work for.  ;)

We had some nasty hot, humid weather up here the last week or so, Saturday was so bad, when I lifted off in the plane at 7 a.m. it was 74° and real sticky, the kinda weather my Grandpa used to say you could break a sweat jus' thinkin' hard in!! The temperature didn't drop any, nor the stickiness till we climbed above 3,000' AGL either, usually it drops in first few hundred feet. The haze was so thick you could only see the ground looking down, out in the distance everything just disappeared!!

When we got back in the afternoon it was just plumb unbearable, so we carried all the picnic tables down into the creek and sat with our feet in the water and chin-wagged some whil enjoying the shade and the breeze that had come up. The breeze was hot, but at least the evapouration felt nice. I drank about 6 quarts of water and sweet tea and musta sweated most of it right back out 'cause I didn't hafta go kill any weeds till past supper.   :D
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: Bro. Noble on June 19, 2006, 03:12:33 PM
I just got in from cutting logs,  It's humid and about 90 and there was no breeze in the hollow where we were cutting.  I was drenched with sweat within a few minutes after starting the saw.  I drank a can of pop and a bunch of water.  I was really glad to get the truck and wagon loaded and back to the house.  After taking a nice long shower and putting on dry clothes,  I feel great.  My joints don.t hurt like they do when it's too cold.

I don't like to work when it's too hot or too cold,  but when you have cows that have to be milked,  hay that has to be put up,  and a son that wants to saw lumber,  you just go ahead and do it and really enjoy it when you're finished for the day.
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: CHARLIE on June 19, 2006, 03:23:30 PM
I'm a very tender and delicate person and anything over 72°F and I begin to melt. ;D
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: dail_h on June 19, 2006, 04:31:01 PM
   I'm really most comfortable around 80,but like Bro Noble ,and tom,when ya gotta doit,ya gotta doit. I sweat like the villiage learning japanese 'rithmatic anyway, so I don't generly notice the humidity. I drink unheard of quanities of water,eat plenty of salt ,and keep a rag to wipe the sweat out of my eyes.
   With help.I have to be really careful,'cause most people don't take the heat as well as I do. They're dieing,and I'm going "whathot?"
   On the other hand,I can't take much below freezing
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: mike_van on June 19, 2006, 04:48:35 PM
I'll take winters worst over summers anytime - Even below 0, i've never been so cold I thought I might drop dead, but i've been that hot more times than I can remember.  I hate it, I wish the leaves would start changing tomorrow.
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: thedeeredude on June 19, 2006, 04:55:09 PM
I agree with mike.  Id rather it be 30 and snowing than 70 and clear.  Todya I was taking branches off trees and cutting up stumps and it was not too fun.
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: Engineer on June 19, 2006, 06:46:42 PM
I'm really happy in temperatures between 60 and 70.  I can deal with 70-80 but not as well.  Summer is the worst season of the year for me, I hate it all - the humidity, bugs, heat, sweat, etc.  I already can't wait for September.  Even dead of winter it's 15 degrees out, you can get a lot of sawing done with good gloves and a set of Carhartt coveralls on. 

Yesterday I was at my folks house for a cookout, and we were watching the thermometer on the wall go up like a rocket.  At 4:30 pm the thing said 102 degrees (in the sun) and half an hour later it said 112 degrees.  I checked it against another thermometer and they were both the same.  I'm sure it was near 100 for real, but I've never seen 112 in Vermont, ever.  Anyway it was WAY too hot for me.  :(
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: brdmkr on June 19, 2006, 07:17:55 PM
I don't mind sweating.  But I hate, I say I HATE getting clammy (sp?).  You know the kind of sweat that wasn't enough to really get you sweaty.  It just doesn't set well with me.  When I get that way, I'll generally pick up the pace until I have a good sweat that I can handle.
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: joelmar10 on June 19, 2006, 11:47:56 PM
It's not the heat, it's the humanity... ::)

In the sun w/ midwest humidity I'm done at 90.  In the shade I'm fine til 99.

100 and I'm sittin and sippin indoors.

But then again I don't make my living at hard labor.  I don't know how the ancestors made it in full wool dress and biting flies with no screens to keep 'em out.  Of course they didn't live much past 40.  Wait a minute...I'M FORTY!!!!

Good to be alive today...fer sure
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: crtreedude on June 20, 2006, 05:57:46 PM
You know, the last time I made remarks about the weather - Jeff made my picture start snowing...

I am a little afraid if I mention where we live, it doesn't ever get really hot - but since they are visiting - I don't think he will mind...
  ;)
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: Furby on June 20, 2006, 08:45:53 PM
I hiked across death valley on a day of full sun and a temp around 95-100 degrees.
There was almost no humidity and I could barley sweat it was so dry.
But the heat really wasn't bad at all, so I can honestly say I don't know when it's "just too DanG hot".
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: Tom on June 20, 2006, 09:04:28 PM
I "Barley sweated" one time.  :D
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: Furby on June 20, 2006, 09:06:54 PM
Good catch Tom! :D :D :D
Ya all know what I mean't. ;)
Guess it's time for bed eh?
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: Tom on June 20, 2006, 09:09:04 PM
I want to hear about this trek across Death Valley.   

Isn't that the place that stopped the folks from making it to Calyforn-i-oh?

And here was Furby, scampering across one morning in his blue suede tennis shoes, basketball shorts, oversized muscle shirt and backwards baseball cap. :D
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: Furby on June 20, 2006, 09:16:39 PM
That's about the size of it Tom! :D
Did I mention I didn't take anything to drink with me. :o
Everyone make a note, that is a really bad thing to forget!
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: Tom on June 20, 2006, 09:20:37 PM

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10026/furby-deathvalley.jpg)
  Did you live? :P  :D
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: Furby on June 20, 2006, 09:22:32 PM
Some days I'm not sure! ;)
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: tomboysawyer on June 20, 2006, 09:44:13 PM
When is it too hot for what? Working in the forest? Going sailing?

Never too hot to work in my woods. Hope it stays cool enough for Jon on Thursday when he's over working. Sunday was a hot one here. I wasn't sittin' on a porch. I was bombing around on my bulldozer pushing stumps out of my future front yard and skidding maples an white pine. Hubby had a fan on him in the backhoe as he pulled stumps. I don't get no fan in the dozer. Hmmm.

And, yes, except when I had to get out to help cut branches off trees, I was in my usuall "its nearly 100 degrees out and 90% humidity" attire. And, no, I don't have pictures and never will have pictures - so don't ask.

Hubby wanted to borrow my handkerchief hanging out my back pocket to plug the exhaust on the wheeler (technical difficulties) and I wouldn't let him have it.

"Can I have that rag?"
"What rag?"
"That one in your pocket."
"That's not a rag, that's my hankie. What do you want it for?"
"To plug the exhaust. What do you want it for?"
"To wipe the sweat off me all day."

We decided to use something other than my handkerchief. I realize soot on my face is not uncommon, but I try not to do it on purpose.

Never too hot to go sailing either.

But it was definitely too hot to cook inside on my stove. It is too hot to cook food indoors at about 80 degrees.
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: limbrat on June 21, 2006, 06:17:15 PM
When i was a kid i worked a couple of summers on my neighbors truck farm tending melons and sweet potatoes. He was a old black man named John Neil he spent most of his life behind a mule. He had the most beautiful and clear field hollar i have ever heard, he could talk to you from 400 yds away and sound like he was standing right next to you. (I cant do) Any way that first day i went over there in jeans, tee shirt,boots and a cap. We started planting slips at day lite and by noon i thought i would die. He let me off early and after supper he came over and we all went to tg&y to get me some work clothes. cotton kaki pants, a straw cowboy hat that was over sized so you could put a cloth in front to keep the sweat out of your eyes and these thin thin cotton long sleeve shirts. The shirts made all the differance keep the sleeves rolled down and buttoned because when you get hot the blood goes to your extremeties to cool, the shirt would get wet from sweat and when it evaporated it would cool the shirt and keep you cool well cooler than without it. But they were so thin that they dont hold the heat to you. It had to look funny to see a old black man and a white kid hoeing a melon patch in hundred degree weather in long sleeves but it was the best way to do it. I would sweat so much that in the evenings when i got home and dried i would have a film of salt on me. Being the only kid left at home i still had to tend to the garden and animals before i could clean up and eat. Might sound like im fussing but i kinda miss it and i know i miss John.
95 is to hot for the first hour and then i get sorta use to it
55 is my favorite temp.
humity is a soggy mess
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: Corley5 on June 21, 2006, 08:41:04 PM
An old family friend and my Grandpa's best friend always wore cotton flannel even making hay in the summer.  He'd buy new shirts in the fall and were them all winter.  When summer came the shirts had been worn and washed so that they were a bit thread bare.  This allowed for evaporation and ventilation but also held some moisture for cooling.  He swore by it and he grew up living and working in Northern Michigan lumber camps and learned this from the crews he worked with.  His mother was a cook and he came up through the ranks and was teamster.  After the lumber boom was over he worked as a manager on a couple large farms around here and always kept a team of horses.  He loved his team so much that he couldn't stand the thought of someone else possibly mistreating them and as part of his will the horses were to be sent for slaughter as soon as possible after his death.  They were
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: Stephen1 on June 22, 2006, 01:40:35 PM
It was brutal on the week-end trying to put up the 1st row of logs.The winds were sucking up the polution from S. Ontario & the Ohio Valley, the humidity & the polution MADE US DIZZY on Sat. afternoon. Hit a high of 40c on the floor of the cabin. We had to go down to the lake for 4 swims in the afternoon. The lake water temperture went from 22C in the morn to 25 in the afternoon. Sure hope it cools off for this week-ends work. I have a back-hoe coming to put up the walls of the cabin.
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: Ron Wenrich on June 23, 2006, 11:22:01 PM
My grandad always wore long johns.  He had a summer set that had short sleeves.  But, he used to always wear long sleeve shirts.  They were normally cotton, like a dress shirt.  He also always wore a felt hat.  And, he was a carpenter, so he was outside in most types of weather.
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: sawguy21 on June 25, 2006, 01:30:29 PM
It is already 21C, about 73F, here at 10:30 in the morning which is real nice. However, The Weather Network says 38 for this afternoon. That is about 108F. HOLY KEERAP, how hot is that :o Supposed to stay in the 30's all week, I'm not used to this.
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: Max sawdust on June 27, 2006, 07:56:35 AM
Wow guess I am statistically weird ::) :D
I figure anything over 75F is too hot, for working or playing.  When I want it hotter I just fire up the Sauna and sit in 175F and cook for a bit ;D
max
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: dave7191 on July 03, 2006, 10:52:00 PM
Much over 80 and it is to hot for me  I've got to stop at the thrift store for some more long sleved white shirts  I get sun burned real bad anymore if i go with my arms bare I think i still have a picture of my great grand father and his sons at the blacksmith shop with their work suite pants shirt and vest on and their leather aprons the coat and tie would have been hanging on a peg to put on before they left in the evening this would have in michigan about 80 miles south of Jeff the picture would have been taken about 1925
Title: Re: Poll: Hot
Post by: solodan on July 04, 2006, 07:05:39 PM
Out my way we can pick the temp we want. if  I  go down the hill it's 20 degrees hotter and up the hill it's 20 degrees cooler.  I put off going down the hill if it is already near 90 at my house,  and I'll go up the hill and take care of business.  I like 70 degrees in the late afternoon and mid 40's in the early morning. I have been in the desert in the mid 120's, and even though it is dry it is unbareably hot, but still better than any big city at 100 degrees.