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Re: Ice things ?
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2005, 06:44:15 AM »
You left that part out the first time , Harold . Moisture rising would explain it. I'll have to beep in on it and see if it's hollow.

Ya, Ian, I've seen it lift up a layer of moss or dirt.

So what is the origins of the term " hoar frost" ? I still think it should have a more magical name ;D
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« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2005, 07:04:51 AM »
I used to see this kind of ice in the spring when the ground was soaked and then it turned cold again.  I also used to see it in the fall when I was hunting. I think you all are right about the source. Their is a mist rising because the ground is warm, and then it freezes.

We don't see that down here...  ::)
So, how did I end up here anyway?

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« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2005, 08:15:15 AM »
I agree with Chets explanation with the emphasis on frost. ;D It's a big problem with certain types of plantation scarification where all the litter and fermation layer is scalped off the topsoil. I've seen the frost pop the trees out of the ground as if the seedling was just throwed on the ground. To prevent it there has to be a good bunch of organic mixed in the soil or a thin layer of duff. :o
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« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2005, 08:24:34 AM »
I saw that phenomenon back in '64 or so in Athens Georgia.  That was back before the turn of the century and almosst forgot.  We had snow that year too. :)
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« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2005, 09:13:04 AM »
I did a little diggin'  :P  Check out the third picture down on the left Frost Column.
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« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2005, 09:14:55 AM »
SECURITY VIOLATION !!!!!!!!

What did you get me into, Chet ???

They'll be comin' for me, now  :o

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Never mind ::) It worked. Thanks, Chet
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« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2005, 09:17:04 AM »
I must have a higher security clearance.  :)
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« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2005, 09:23:06 AM »
Third row down far right looks JUST like them but the ones you spotted have neat headgear on ;D


The security guys were VERY worried that I was packin' an unlawful item of punctuation :D
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« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2005, 09:26:44 AM »
they got ta be really careful around dem government sites.  :D  ;D
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« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2005, 10:35:10 AM »
I got ejected errrr was I a reject  ::)
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« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2005, 12:02:18 PM »
I've never seen that kind of formation, it sure looks nice
any one tried ice painting?


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« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2005, 12:04:32 PM »

  Not lately. All the little square chunks keep disappearing  ??? ::) ::) ;D ;D
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« Reply #32 on: November 20, 2005, 12:47:23 PM »
No its using water colour wet on wet then lay it out in the frost to slowly freeze
the ice patterns form in the paint and fix when it dries
i'll ask Linda when she pops up for air


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« Reply #33 on: November 20, 2005, 01:08:13 PM »

 That sounds interesting.  8)  Got any photos ??
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« Reply #34 on: November 20, 2005, 05:33:07 PM »
hey Joan...

Here's a little poetic reference to "hoar frost" with a fairyland type theme for ya...   :)  This woman must have felt the same way about hoar frost as you do.   :)
I found it on http://www.Bartleby.com, a very cool website.
 
34. Fairyland
 
By Anne Glenny Wilson
 
 
DO you remember that careless band, 
Riding oer meadow and wet sea-sand, 
  One autumn day, in a mist of sunshine, 
Joyously seeking for fairyland? 
 
The wind in the tree-tops was scarcely heard,         5
The streamlet repeated its one silver word, 
  And far away, oer the depths of woodland, 
Floated the bell of the parson-bird. 
 
Pale hoar-frost glittered in shady slips, 
Where ferns were dipping their finger-tips;         10
  From mossy branches a faint perfume 
Breathed oer honeyed clematis lips. 
 
At last we climbed to the ridge on high. 
Ah, crystal vision! Dreamland nigh! 
  Far, far below us the wide Pacific         15
Slumbered in azure from sky to sky. 
 
And cloud and shadow across the deep 
Wavered, or paused in enchanted sleep, 
  And eastward the purple-misted islets 
Fretted the wave with terrace and steep.         20
 
We looked on the tranquil, glassy bay, 
On headlands sheeted with dazzling spray, 
  And the whitening ribs of a wreck forlorn 
That for twenty years had wasted away. 
 
All was as calm, and pure, and fair,         25
It seemed the hour of worship there, 
  Silent, as where the great North Minster 
Rises for ever, a visible prayer. 
 
Then we turned from the murmurous forest-land, 
And rode over shingle and silver sand,         30
  For so fair was the earth in the golden autumn, 
We sought no farther for Fairyland. 
 
 
Y'all can pronounce it "puh-SKOLLY"

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« Reply #35 on: November 20, 2005, 08:11:35 PM »
Thanks, Paschale  :)  That's a very nice poem. It's been quite a while since I read any peotry. The rythem can be very soothing and that author sure made me visualize the forest ;D
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« Reply #36 on: November 20, 2005, 09:46:26 PM »
Ah, Sprucebunny, we don't have stuff like that in my part of Texas, but if ya got a Scotch Tree that grows up there, I could  be convinced to relocate!!!! 8)
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« Reply #37 on: November 20, 2005, 11:59:30 PM »
It's been quite a while since I read any peotry. The rythem can be very soothing and that author sure made me visualize the forest ;D

I don't read poetry either, though when I did a search for "hoar frost" on that site, I thought it was really interesting that one of the first things it came up was this poem that talked about something you talked about--that it should come from a fairy tale.  So I thought I'd post it--gotta add a little culture from time to time!    ;)
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« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2005, 07:31:13 AM »
I be cultured.  :D ;) ;D
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« Reply #39 on: November 21, 2005, 08:07:11 AM »
It is okay SwampDonkey - you will recover...

So, how did I end up here anyway?


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