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Re: Discovery Workbench
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2012, 06:07:57 PM »
So she carried him home?

Nowadays that hog tying could get child abuse charges. ;)
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« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2012, 06:10:49 PM »
He was lucky that's all he got. :D
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Re: Discovery Workbench
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2012, 08:00:26 PM »
That's looking great, I love seeing people use the much-underrated Beech :)
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Re: Discovery Workbench
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2012, 08:50:22 PM »
That's looking great, I love seeing people use the much-underrated Beech :)

I'm mixed up....are you talking about using DUCT TAPE on a much underrated Beech?  say_what

That'll getcha 10-20 in the slammer.  :D :D :D

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« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2012, 11:57:49 PM »
 :D :D

Alright.  So we can clear the air of all the duct tape stories, here's ours. ::) :D

My son was at a summer day camp a couple years ago. Once he gets started talking about something, he just cannot stop.  His mouth, hands, and arms run 100 MPH until he has completely exhausted the subject.

Throughout the day, he was going and going and, finally, everyone had had enough. :D  Somebody blurts out, "What's it gonna take to make you stop talking?!?" Everyone chuckles about it and continues on with the activities. Including Nick.

As a joke, he grabs a roll of duct tape and sticks a strip across his mouth (really his face) and shows everyone just what it would take to shut him up. ::)

This is when we get a call from the instructor to alert us to the situation.  I said, "Rip it off!" :D She did.  And he had a nice red beard on his face for the rest of the afternoon. :D


I've gotten started on the drawers.  The drawer faces will be spalted beech.  But my supply is very limited to the 1' -2' lengths on the ends of a few longer boards.  So we spent some time cross cutting, jointing and planing these pieces.  Then we edge glued them together to make up a very wide and very short board. We have two of these. One for each drawer bank.

  

We will rip these to make our drawer faces and keep them in order (hopefully) throughout the drawer making process so the spalt lines run throughout the bank of drawers.

This next glue up will be for the center console drawer faces.  If everything goes as planned, the spalting figure will travel throughout these drawers, too. :)

 
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Re: Discovery Workbench
« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2012, 06:51:59 AM »
That is some very special wood.  Special wood for a special piece.  That is how it should be.
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« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2012, 08:39:36 PM »
Great WIP thread.  Those spalted panels will certainly be eye-catching.
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« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2012, 05:13:49 AM »
Yes, the spalted wood is eye catching.  :)
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« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2012, 06:46:50 AM »
Great Job so far!  I remember every one of the small woodworking projects I did with my dad.  Your making memories.  ;)

(granted, there isn't a whole lot that I need to remember :D
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« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2012, 09:20:46 AM »
Things are still moving along. 

12 hours yesterday was spent making drawer parts.  I got as far as having them all drum sanded.  I emptied my dust collector 5 times throughout the day plus two wheel barrow loads of sawdust from ther floor. My dust collector needs to be upgraded. :(

Running all those parts through the planer wore us both out.  Because I roughed out all the drawer parts there were lots of little pieces that kept Nick hustling on the outfeed side.  For the passes through the drum sander, we were able to take a load off and sit on stools. :D

I picked up new router bits for the Leigh jig and will get started dovetailing after breakfast.  The lumber retailer that carries baltic birch is closed on Monday's, so drawer assembly will be mid-week.

Installing the drawers in the cabinets has become quite  a trouble shooting challange.  You will all notice there are no drawer runners installed in the cabinets.  My plan is to have grooves on the drawer sides that will ride on runners inside the cabinet. My concern is installing the runners accurately.

So, this is what I came up with and feel free to advise me on shortcomings of this plan. The runners will be installed on a seperate plywood panel ( 1/2" baltic birch) that will then be inserted into the cabinet.  My hope is that I will better be able to make adjustments for spacing of the runners with all the work outside of the little cabinet work space. The plywood panel then can be set into the cabinet and screwed to the upper and lower rails.

What do you guys think of this plan?
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« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2012, 04:01:55 PM »
I know how sawdust and shavings mount up. I had a big pile I kept feeding on the old garden last winter. Making all that loom stuff and tool bench. This spring I moved the shavings over to the new garden to put down on barrier fabric around the 4x8' beds I have. Funny how the shavings held the layers of snow from the winter a while after all the other snow had long gone in the spring melt. ;D I had a big cardboard box I loaded up several times when it was time to clean up the shop, which was often. I burn wood, so have to be careful of shavings more so than sawdust.
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Re: Discovery Workbench
« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2012, 08:50:17 PM »
Is there a particular reason for going with drawers that have grooves in the sides versus a center runner on the bottom?
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« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2012, 11:17:39 PM »
Just that I hadn't considered it, Danny. At this piont I'm not sure that is an option. It would have made alignment a bit easier for sure.

I spent the day cutting on the drawers. The first thing to do when using a dovetail jig is to establish a reference edge.  I used blue tape around the top corner to make it obvious to me. When the dust starts flying, I loose track of that sort of thing.



 

All the parts layed out ready to go.



 

Here's the jig set up. The drawers are graduated in one inch increments from 2" - 5". This allowed me to set up the pairs of fingers on the jig once as they are one inch wide.  That way I didn't have to adjust the fingers for each size drawer.



 

It took seven test cuts to get the router and jig positions set just right. For half blind dovetails, all this test cutting is neccesary.  If these were through dovetails, only one test cut would be neededas you can "sneak up" on the proper fit with just the one sample.
 


 

The test sample has a bit of tearout because I exited the cut to quick. But the fit is just right.



 

If you're really bored, you can watch this video of some of the action. :)



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« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2012, 04:47:59 AM »
Some day I need to get myself a Leigh dovetail jig.  ;D

Remember the movie "Jaws" and chief Brody says, "Your going to need a bigger boat".

I need to expand the shop. :D

Coming along nicely on the workbench. :)
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« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2012, 06:24:50 AM »
Good video Chris, I'm going to keep this one bookmarked for when I get one.

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Re: Discovery Workbench
« Reply #35 on: July 10, 2012, 06:51:35 AM »
I really like that SawStop Work Bench  :D.

When you run that many drawers, you make quite a mess.  That router can make a lot of chips  :).

It looks like that you are dovetailing both the front and back of the drawers.  They should be extra strong.  I usually just do the sides and attach the back with a butt joint or with a rabbet.  Do you machine a groove in the sides and front to slide in a panel for the bottom?
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« Reply #36 on: July 10, 2012, 08:16:49 AM »
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When I started cutting the tails, I changed my mind instantly from the dadoed back to the tailed back. Dadoing would have required at least three more machining set ups and runs.  The dovetail jig was already set.

I did put a groove in all four drawer parts for a captured bottom.

Leigh has a newer dust collecting setup for the jig, but I have not used it. I keep telling myself to get it, but haven't pulled the trigger yet.

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The shop is tight. Plus, I just unloaded 1,000bf from the kiln and this project is spread around. It's about time to utilize the workshop annex - my 6 x12 box trailer. :D

Guys,
That little video doesn't touch on any jig or router set up.  When it comes time to learn your machine, let me know if you want help and I can work up a video to help get you started.
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« Reply #37 on: July 10, 2012, 02:17:11 PM »
Looking good so far .I myself have to have my mind " right " before I ever attempt intricat cuts and fittings like that .I too have about a half dozen of those Irwin type clamps .A tad pricey but worth what they cost IMO .

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« Reply #38 on: July 10, 2012, 08:48:40 PM »
The manual that comes with the Leigh D4R jig is like a book.  It is even spiral bound.  It is very detailed and thorough.  Many people have said that the Leigh jig is too hard to set up, but I bet those folks never read the manual in detail.  I found it very straight-forward.

Well Chris, you have a Wood Confession to make  ;D
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« Reply #39 on: July 10, 2012, 10:23:24 PM »
Discoveries are the reason I made this bench.  Maybe, some day, the work that takes place at it may help cure a disease or discover a new life form. Today the discovery was that the wood used to build it is not beech. It's hickory. :D

All throughout the process I had my doubts about the "beech", but just chalked it up to never having used it.  Then I got to the drawer fronts that I know are beech and it all just didn't add up. :-\ 

So I took a few pics and sent them to Danny to confirm my suspicions.  DanG blasted! He wouldn't just give me the answer.  He made me look it up! :D :D

Now I need to scrap this whole thing and start over.  This was supposed to be made of beech. >:(
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