Hi all, thanks for having me.
I have a 10.5 acre wooded lot west of Kalispell and I've started developing it.
I have a quick question if anyone here knows... what are the plants I have circled in the photo? If I need to provide more zoomed in pictures, I can.
Thank you!
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/56164/20180612_150606.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1562095578)
Well I can already see the photos don't post as large as they are originally... sorry, just got started here. I'll try to put some more zoomed in versions.
a close up would be great, but it almost looks like poison ivy so not too close. cannot separate the leaves with the plants.
I was going to say the same as Doc, it looks like Ivy. That garbage seems to do well just about anywhere. Close ups would help👍 Not too close though!😁
Thanks guys, hopefully this works better:
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/56164/20180612_150606_28129.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1562096236)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/56164/20180612_144907_28129.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1562096269)
I am now seeing two diff. plants i think. the three leaved plant almost looks like a strawberry leaf. hmmm.
Quote from: doc henderson on July 02, 2019, 03:40:59 PM
I am now seeing two diff. plants i think. the three leaved plant almost looks like a strawberry leaf. hmmm.
Yes they are two different plants, I cannot I.D. either of them at this time. The serrated three-leafed one I feared was poison ivy, but I can't tell. The other one with rows of side/side leaves are all over the place but I have no idea what they are.
Thanks!
the serrated one may be poison oak. i have not seen sumac but the second one is close.
Quote from: doc henderson on July 02, 2019, 03:44:49 PM
the serrated one may be poison oak. i have not seen sumac but the second one is close.
I thought maybe, too, but, neither Poison Oak or Poison Sumac are found in northwest Montana. Poison Ivy is occasionally, but not usually in this area.
Here's a pic of wild strawberry, which it might be (the serrated one), but I am not physically there right now to check for fruit, etc.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/56164/wild-strawberry-leaf-tea.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1562097378)
yes i just looked and it is claimed that ivy is the only one in montana. Univ. of Montana Cathy Seibert was quoted in an article. If you want to be quick, call the university. some times you will get the run around, and sometimes in 5 seconds you are speaking with a local expert for your state. you can also call poison control. You can find someone who can review you pics. We have many great foresters and I am sure when they way in, they will tell us what it is and why. or if you have a local extension office or forester. what is the scat from?
If you have many questions, folks on FF love to work this out. there are also apps for your phone to ID leaves. welcome and best regards. keep checking back for more info.
Neither one is poison ivy.
Thanks guys... I appreciate it. I know the columned leaf plant isn't poison ivy but I can't figure out what it is using my not-so-great Google-Fu.
Good idea about calling local forester or University.
Poison sumac is a small tree, has a compound leaf with lots of small leaves on it, think of a walnut leaf but 1/2 - 1/3 the size with 7-13 leaflets on it. It also has a seed cluster that should be a reddish color that grows from the end of the branch. If I find any sumac I just treat it as if its poison and don't touch it.
Does the three leafed one have little thorns? Leaves look like strawberry leaves. Could be rough cinquefoil.
The three leafed one looks like raspberry to me.
Not sure on the other. Almost looks like some kind of Oregon grape but the leaves dont look stuff enough.
Thanks guys... I'll check for thorns next time I'm on site.
Ok after further searching, looks like the 3-leaf plant is Tiarella Trifoliata (known as threeleaf foamflower, sugar scoop, or laceflower:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiarella_trifoliata (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiarella_trifoliata)
Looks like the columned leaf plant is a variant of wild sarsaparilla (Aralia nudicaulis). I still can't really tell but it's the closest I've found so far:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aralia_nudicaulis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aralia_nudicaulis)
I would have to disagree. Still looks like wild strawberry to me for the first one. On the second one, it looks like leathery leaves, along the lines of a salal or Oregon grape, but I do not think it is either one of those. OG has more elongated than round leaves and more distinctive "pokeys" (my 4 yr old Granddaughter's term). Salal has no thorn type edges. The sasparilla picture provided does not look leathery at all.
Quote from: BradMarks on July 03, 2019, 02:12:33 PM
I would have to disagree. Still looks like wild strawberry to me for the first one. On the second one, it looks like leathery leaves, along the lines of a salal or Oregon grape, but I do not think it is either one of those. OG has more elongated than round leaves and more distinctive "pokeys" (my 4 yr old Granddaughter's term). Salal has no thorn type edges. The sasparilla picture provided does not look leathery at all.
I think you might be right... I found a better picture of Montana wild strawberry and it looks to be an exact match. Here:
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/56164/defaultGen.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1562178680)
The second one is still driving me crazy... the place is covered in it, it's everywhere. I would have thought it would be easier to identify. I'll keep digging.
Thanks!
According to my N. Idaho/W. Montana contact, he says the second one is Oregon Grape. I'll go along ;D
Mark,
The top photo is definitely a wild strawberry, and they won't always bear fruit. It kinda depends on the year. The bottom photo, I'm not sure. At first I was thinking huckleberry, but the leaves are a little too serrated.
Levi
Quote from: BradMarks on July 09, 2019, 10:15:18 AM
According to my N. Idaho/W. Montana contact, he says the second one is Oregon Grape. I'll go along ;D
Thanks BradMarks I'll look it up and confirm it.
Quote from: reride82 on July 09, 2019, 04:50:33 PM
Mark,
The top photo is definitely a wild strawberry, and they won't always bear fruit. It kinda depends on the year. The bottom photo, I'm not sure. At first I was thinking huckleberry, but the leaves are a little too serrated.
Levi
Thanks Levi, I appreciate it.
The Oregon grape berries look a little odd. What do they taste like? :D