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Title: Treating planter box?
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on May 10, 2019, 08:44:30 AM
Got a call a few minutes ago about what might be best to treat planter boxes to make them last longer.  

For flowers.  She wondered if diesel/oil was good.  

Wondering about that and whether maybe just 6 mil plastic.  Photo below. 


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Title: Re: Treating planter box?
Post by: btulloh on May 10, 2019, 08:55:08 AM
Diesel / oil doesn't go well with plants.  It does make a very effective killer though.  

6 mil Plastic sounds good or she may be able to find plastic trays that will fit.

I'll be curious to see if anyone knows of an effective surface treatment.
Title: Re: Treating planter box?
Post by: Magicman on May 10, 2019, 09:17:40 AM
Or calk/seal all of the cracks and give it a good solid coating of roofing sealer.  I would want a ~ΒΌ" buildup to insure that no moisture reaches the wood.  There would also have to be drain holes in the bottom.
Title: Re: Treating planter box?
Post by: caveman on May 10, 2019, 12:52:05 PM
I made one several years ago out of live oak and lined it with tar paper.  the bark has begun to slip but it is still solid.  Had I used a more rot prone wood I am sure it would not have held up as well.


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Title: Re: Treating planter box?
Post by: bluthum on May 10, 2019, 01:13:22 PM
copper napthenate, maybe 10% is considered fairly safe around growing plants.
Title: Re: Treating planter box?
Post by: Bruno of NH on May 10, 2019, 05:20:30 PM
You could also line it with ice and water shield self sticking membrane
Title: Re: Treating planter box?
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on May 10, 2019, 06:31:49 PM
Thanks for all the ideas. You're making me look good!   :)  Sent her the link for her to watch.  

Funny thing, she said she has been a roofer, and will send pix back of what she comes up with.  
Title: Re: Treating planter box?
Post by: tule peak timber on May 11, 2019, 06:58:11 AM
I've always been uncomfortable putting water inside of wood (unless it is a wine barrel LOL). Planters need well planned drainage, possibly with a bit of rubble in the bottom so roots don't sit in stale water.Liquid , paint-able, polyurethane sealant is a good choice. Vulkem, Liquid Flex-Seal,L&R liquid rubber, Progard EPDM, all pretty good options to coat the inside of planter boxes.
    Some nice looking planters on this thread that show a potential of extra $$ from slabs and skins..........
Title: Re: Treating planter box?
Post by: curved-wood on May 11, 2019, 07:57:16 AM
Surfacing burning : Shou sugi ban ...it is the name for surfacing burning for increasing root resistance. Easy to find info on YouTube. We did some flower boxes using that technique so far so good...time will tell.  In the past I did flower boxes with live edge untreated of any sort. Nice look but not lasting. Live edge has the sap wood which is not very root resistant even with cedar.    I try to stay away as much as possible from chemicals...I have to do my environment share somewhere. 
Title: Re: Treating planter box?
Post by: btulloh on May 11, 2019, 08:19:58 AM
Some good ideas here.  I like Bruno's water shield suggestion.
Title: Re: Treating planter box?
Post by: Sawmill Man on May 11, 2019, 08:30:36 AM
How would anchorseal work as a moisture barrier if used just on the inside?
Title: Re: Treating planter box?
Post by: OffGrid973 on May 16, 2019, 10:12:20 PM
Black pond liner with a drain plug cut out in the bottom...make sure the water can feed to this drain area (may need few).   Spar varnish on the outside edges keeps it looking nice, but don't put it inside the planter...good luck.

https://www.lumberjocks.com/topics/7741 (https://www.lumberjocks.com/topics/7741)
Title: Re: Treating planter box?
Post by: low_48 on May 17, 2019, 12:17:00 AM
Why spend so much time protecting the interior when the outside will be hit with an occasional rain shower, but water from a hose every day? Use it till it rots and then make another one. Window boxes are hell on house paint and siding. The person uses a big shower head on the hose and the siding gets wet everyday. 
Title: Re: Treating planter box?
Post by: doc henderson on May 17, 2019, 12:58:56 AM
made a planter for my wife out of a old spring mech. rocking chair.  took off the springs, mad a box out of locust wood, prob. honey, and lined the inside with fiberglass mat and resin.  she did stencils on the arms and back.  about to put it in the burn pile.  the box is perfect, but outside on the legs and back, every thing is de-laminating.  I will try to get a pic, but is like an inside out boat.
Title: Re: Treating planter box?
Post by: doc henderson on May 17, 2019, 05:02:51 PM
here are pics of our planter after 4 years of service.  the box is still good, but the old rocker is done.


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stencils from hobby lobby, good hubby wifey project. lined with fiberglass cloth and resin from WM auto section.  good as new.  full of dirt water and plants for years.  drain holes in back and bottom.
Title: Re: Treating planter box?
Post by: low_48 on May 17, 2019, 09:12:57 PM
That could have been a chamber pot Doc! LOL
Except for those drain holes!