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Started by LeeB, March 20, 2018, 08:45:30 AM

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LeeB

Do any of you cattle folks have a clue as to what breed this feller may be? 

'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

dustyhat

Looks Angus, Holstein,and tex longhorn. or maby a Heinz 57. 

LeeB

The guy I got his dam from was running pretty much herefords so I suspect he's a least part hereford. I thought maybe that and simmental? Or just a mut. He's been a good bull but it's time for some new blood and I've bought a registered hereford bull. Hate to see it but he has to go. His mama has simular markings to him and I have no idea how old she is. He's 7 and she has to be probably 10 or better but she keeps dropping calve so she gets kept around. I figure she won't produce too much longer and then it's hamburger time. If I can't get a decent offer for him he'll go the same route. 

'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

dustyhat

We usually keep a cow as long as shes dropping calfs and has teeth. he is a good built animal though.

dustyhat

Seriously there is a butler longhorn that throws that color alot. 

LeeB

The guy I'm buying my new bull from thought he may have some longhorn in him.
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

sandhills

I would say definitely has some hereford in him and probably a little longhorn as well, just guessing.  I'd agree he's a nice built bull though.

sandhills

Looked back, definitely has a longhorn body but Hereford head, without the white face?  Don't ask me I only raise cattle and work at a salebarn for a living  :D :D.  What's the new bull going to be?

chevytaHOE5674

Usually (but not always) hereford X cattle retain some or all of the white face, and often white lower legs/feet. Looking at his face he looks a bit like my purebred simmentinal bull, but he has the coloring of a longhorn or short horn. Probably no purebred parents or grandparents, bred from a long line of muts is my guess.

jwade

mutt or not a nice put together bull.

sandhills

I think chevy nailed it, but I'm still sticking with longhorn over shorthorn?  ;)  I can change my mind pretty quick with a simple answer  :D

LeeB

New bull will be a registered hereford. 

I kinda though maybe some semi in him too. But I really don't know, hence asking on here. Guess he could be about almost any mix. Hard for you guys to tell from a picture. 

@sandhills Any thoughts on what he might bring at the sale barn?
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

sandhills

Quote from: jwade on March 20, 2018, 10:15:37 AM
mutt or not a nice put together bull.

I wouldn't say that but hard to judge by one picture, I will say I don't care much for his front end though, that's why dad picks our bulls I guess  :D.

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LeeB

I've got a bunch of mutts. Trying to improve with the new bull and will buy some more hereford heifers later on. I know the money is better for black cows but I like the looks of herefords. 

 

 
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

sandhills

The last weigh up we sold weighed 2260 and brought 76-77 cents a pound last Wednesday my boss thought, the weigh up markets been a little off lately but he's in good shape and that helps A LOT.  I could have bought a good angus bull Saturday that weighed 1350 (a yearling) for probably less than 1.00, he didn't have the greatest numbers but had the bloodlines, couldn't see who I was bidding against and quit, it's hard to bid from out back when you're working  :D.

51cub

I imagine you guys know better than me, but my first guess as soon as I saw the picture was Hereford and Chianina
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garyfg

Got to watch them hereford cows with that white face. I had a few that got cancer eye.

WV Sawmiller

   Looks like American shorthorn my neighbor up the road raises. At least mixed with some.
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LeeB

He never had any horns until this last year or so and then the buds popped out.
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

chevytaHOE5674

Head looks simentenial in build to me also the curly hair on the neck and face. From the head back he looks longhorns (well at least what I know of longhorns..... haha).

Roxie

Dude has a head like a buffalo.  :D 
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log cutter

 1/2 Longhorn, 1/4 Hereford and 1/4 Red Angus. Just my guess but he looks allot like my cows that were that combination. Best cows I've every owned.
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sandhills

Quote from: Roxie on March 20, 2018, 12:02:36 PM
Dude has a head like a buffalo.  :D
:D :D No, trust me Roxie, we've sold beefalos before and this dude looks way prettier  ;D.
garyfg I agree, we see a lot of them, some owners need to be shot.

I'm still going with chevy's Sim/longhorn cross, that's my story and I'm sticking to it  :).

Lee put that new bull on some nice black cows and I'll come buy the f1 cross heifers  ;D.

TKehl

Can't give any more insight on bred than what's above.
 
However, you mention his momma being 10 years old.  I've been reading that heifers from older cows can be the best bang for the buck.  As on older cow (that keeps producing) will spend proportionately more time raising kids than raising her up to breeding age, the cost of raising her up is spread across more calves.  As such, all else equal, if you have longevity genes in your cattle, they will be more profitable as long as they keep producing. 
 
In other words, I'd keep her around as long as she has teeth and raises calves.   ;)
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