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Title: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: firefighter ontheside on August 16, 2021, 06:20:44 PM
I have to start the prep on Wednesday afternoon at 2.  Dulcolax, Miralax, and then magnesium citrate the next morning.  Its a fun time.  You know what I'm talking about if you're doing what you should at your age, assuming you've reached that age.  My wife is bringing home all those presents when she gets home from work today.  Plus she's bringing me my diet for Wednesday, jello, juice and broth.  I can't believe its been 5 years.  I remember the last time so vividly.
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: Dan_Shade on August 16, 2021, 06:24:17 PM
Pick up a tube of desatin /diaper rash cream. 

It'll help with the fire.

The prep may be a hassle, but it may help you avoid a much larger hassle. 
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: Skip on August 16, 2021, 06:39:30 PM
Mag. citrate is the bomb  :o Good luck with the procedure .
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: firefighter ontheside on August 16, 2021, 06:46:54 PM
Good news for me @Dan_Shade (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=2217) is that I already have some Desatin!  ;D :D
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: thecfarm on August 16, 2021, 08:57:47 PM
Well, I can't say you are full of it now.  ;D
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: firefighter ontheside on August 16, 2021, 09:25:29 PM
Quote from: thecfarm on August 16, 2021, 08:57:47 PM
Well, I can't say you are full of it now.  ;D
I've got a few more days.  Don't rush me.
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: metalspinner on August 16, 2021, 10:08:22 PM
So, do you sip, sip, sip like a fine wine? or just guzzle like a fraternity beer party? :D
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: Runningalucas on August 16, 2021, 10:11:27 PM
About three weeks ago, I took my older slow brother in for a checkup.  The doc said with modern blood tests, they can check so many more things now with current diagnostics.  He brought up the procedure you're talking about, and he said that he doesn't ask men to get those until after 50.  Just interesting.
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: barbender on August 16, 2021, 10:15:00 PM
Quote from: metalspinner on August 16, 2021, 10:08:22 PM
So, do you sip, sip, sip like a fine wine? or just guzzle like a fraternity beer party? :D
You need to drink as quickly as possible if you hope to make it to the toilet by the time you are done drinking it😬
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: Tacotodd on August 16, 2021, 11:02:59 PM
If you're in touch with your guts feelings (like I am with my Crohns) then you just remember to stay CLOSE to the head, because just when you think that you're done, here it comes again Margaret! :o
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: Dan_Shade on August 16, 2021, 11:30:13 PM
This is a good read:

Dave Barry colonoscopy article (https://www.miamiherald.com/living/liv-columns-blogs/dave-barry/article1928847.html)
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: Dan_Shade on August 16, 2021, 11:31:54 PM
And Magicman's topic  (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=59671.0)
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: trapper on August 16, 2021, 11:56:52 PM
Had mine a few days before the pig roast.  Doctor says I am going to die before I need another one.  Results were good. 
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: Tacotodd on August 17, 2021, 12:04:44 AM
@trapper (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=5228) you just have to remember that ain't none of us going to get out of it alive.
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: Ed_K on August 17, 2021, 07:39:21 AM
 If you think that is bad, end of the month the Dr. going up the other one :o :(. With all the drugs I take for having cancer my p er doesn't want to work anymore. He was talking about enlarged blatter or something up there  :(.
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: Texas Ranger on August 17, 2021, 09:30:52 AM
Along with the Cecil B. DeMille process of sticking a camera up your kester, my saw bones gives me a kit every year at my "Good Health" exam that takes a stool sample to see any mutated dna in your colon.  I like it a whole lot better than the "ready when you are CB".

Folks of an age will recognize the CB.
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: DbltreeBelgians on August 17, 2021, 12:27:03 PM
Don't sweat the small stuff Bill, it's far better than the alternative.
As you know I'm all too aware of the alternative.
I will say that dulcolax and mag citrate was not my choice of prep though. My doc gave me Suprep and it worked Oh So Well.
You'll be fine and won't remember the procedure at all.
Wishing you the best for great results.

Brent
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: firefighter ontheside on August 17, 2021, 03:37:44 PM
Thanks, guys.  This is my second one.  They did the last one due to problems I had been having.  I had bad reflux and I also have a small hiatal hernia.  5 years ago they did an endoscopy to look for any signs of cancer due to the reflux.  That was all good, but they did find an area of my esophagus that is called an inlet patch.  Ultimately, its a part of my esophagus that makes its own stomach acid and causes discomfort.  I take a ppi(proton pump inhibitor) every morning to stop the stomach acid brewing too much.

 @DbltreeBelgians (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=21436) , Brent, your experience makes it really hard for a guy to complain about drinking some miralax, getting put to sleep and waking up really hungry.
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: peakbagger on August 17, 2021, 05:59:42 PM
There is epidemic of Colon Cancer with much younger people and when they get it young it gets serious fast. I know of a couple of folks in their early 40s who succumbed to it. I did my second round last year, they did not find anything so one more time when I am 70 and I am done.
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: gspren on August 17, 2021, 07:52:19 PM
I also started in my 40s because of my mom having had colon cancer, since then both my brother and myself have had polyps removed before they caused a problem. On my first one they didn't give me enough "sleep juice" and I was fully awake and talking to the doc on the "way out", it surprised him. When I told the guys at work about it I said I got to see my ---- slam shut, you know the entry point, and asked if anyone wanted to see the video but no takers :D. It is important so go git-er-done! 
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: firefighter ontheside on August 17, 2021, 08:26:27 PM
I did have one small polyp on my previous procedure.  They removed it and it was benign.
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: Tacotodd on August 18, 2021, 04:41:14 AM
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on August 17, 2021, 08:26:27 PM
I did have one small polyp on my previous procedure.  They removed it and it was benign.
GOOD! I'm glad that it was. I still don't know exactly what the docs where looking for in my case.
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: firefighter ontheside on August 18, 2021, 08:04:16 AM
No solid foods today, but I can drink some black coffee.  What better cup to use than this one.  
I mixed up my miralax with sugarfree gatorade.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/36921/received_370538834550279.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1629288242)
 
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: HemlockKing on August 18, 2021, 08:13:25 AM
This is one of my biggest fears lol i got a few years left, don't they have cameras for this by now or something? 
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: firefighter ontheside on August 18, 2021, 08:19:52 AM
They do have camera pills, but it would not be nearly as effective.
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: Old saw fixer on August 18, 2021, 09:58:28 AM
Just think about how good the greasy cheeseburger you are you going to get on the way home!  That's always my first stop, lol!
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: HemlockKing on August 18, 2021, 10:35:49 AM
Quote from: Old saw fixer on August 18, 2021, 09:58:28 AM
Just think about how good the greasy cheeseburger you are you going to get on the way home!  That's always my first stop, lol!
A rotten ronnies stop! 
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: firefighter ontheside on August 18, 2021, 04:48:04 PM
Well, I'll be on the way home by 9am, so I'm not sure a cheeseburger will be the ticket, but maybe.  I guess McD's will make a cheeseburger at any time of day.
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: Magicman on August 18, 2021, 05:20:01 PM
I am usually content with a milkshake. 
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: doctorb on August 18, 2021, 05:36:27 PM
While FDA approved, (and often not paid for by insurance) there's a new prep for colonoscopy that involves just pills and water. Sutab is the brand.  I tried it last spring for my procedure and found it much easier than the others.  I hated the syrupy sweet liquids you had to gag down. While you drink a lot of water, it was much more tolerable than the other two preps I had experienced.  The results of the prep were as expected.  ;D  There's no escaping that.
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: firefighter ontheside on August 18, 2021, 06:28:18 PM
Interesting @doctorb (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=10176) im guessing it often depends on the doctor you have at the time.  This has been better than the last time.  I had to drink a whole gallon last time.  As it is, I had 64oz and I'm already done with it. I told myself last time that I would just mix the miralax with water instead of gatorade and then I went and did the gatorade again.  Now, tomorrow morning I have to drink the Mag Citrate.  I've never had that.
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: Don P on August 18, 2021, 07:41:18 PM
I had the same, not completely out when the doc started. I was just quietly waiting for things to begin, watching the monitor when I realized things were coming into focus and the TV show was starting. I piped up real quick and said "That's a view I've never seen before  :D" I've never seen a camera zoom out so fast. Next thing I was waking up afterwards.

On the other old man test, I went in for my annual a few months ago and he did a prostate PSA test with the bloodwork and the red flag went up, it went from around 4 to 11. He called me back in for an extensive finger wave and another PSA. While I was leaning on my elbows he asked if I had been riding a bike or driving a heavy truck on rough roads. "No but I'm digging out a basement with a bobcat and getting slammed pretty hard" "Ahh, that probably explains it". As we talked his dad had been in construction and he had his Dad's old skidsteer so he knew all about the pounding it can give you. I came back from that blood test with a 6 but told him I had ridden the bobcat that morning before seeing him. He sent a note with the results to come in when I was done with the bucking bronc. Anyway, for you guys running heavy toys if you pop up with a sudden high PSA number that can be the cause.

Good luck in the morn!
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: Chuck White on August 18, 2021, 08:39:46 PM
Back in January I had the prep (2 Gatorades w/prep added), wasn't too bad!

I just hate the thick/syrupy mix, then trying to get rid of that after the bottle is gone!

The worse prep I had was my first one, 8oz every 15 minutes until the gallon was gone, it was called "Go Lightly"!

Absolutely yuk!

They've come a long way since then!   :)
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: firefighter ontheside on August 19, 2021, 10:59:47 AM
I'm all done and back home.  One small polyp again that was removed.  Doctor said they would let me know about the biopsies.  They also scoped my esophagus and biopsied that.  Come back for a check up in a year and 5 years for another scope.
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: Tacotodd on August 19, 2021, 02:58:45 PM
FFOTS, I'm glad for you that you're DONE. We'll here back from you about it when you get your results, I'm a guessin  :D
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: Don P on August 19, 2021, 05:45:06 PM
I hope they stuck the camera down your throat first instead of later.
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: firefighter ontheside on August 19, 2021, 08:23:27 PM
Lol, they did SAY they were gonna do that... :) :) :)
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: Tacotodd on August 19, 2021, 08:51:29 PM
I asked them that SAME question, but my doctors don't seem to think thats a funny question. I'm just a cutup and the caregivers that I see on a regular basis (hematologist and the underling of them for checking my INR, which (while not accurate) I relate to viscosity) know me & my antics. Every time that I go in for a blood draw I joke with them about putting the tourniquet around my neck, or at least the sphygmomanometer instead, BTW, that's just the PROPER name for a lowly blood pressure cuff. After the first time of my encounter then they realize that I'm just playing. After all, if you can't have fun then what's the point?!

Like my new saying is to lots of people, LEMONADE. Cause that's what you make when you're handed lemons, right?!
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: DMcCoy on August 25, 2021, 08:20:19 AM
My biggest fear is that it won't be clean enough and I have to go through it all again.  I'm VERY careful to do exactly what I'm instructed to do.
My first trip through, 20 yrs ago, they pulled out a small carcinoid cancer.  To which the DR said "we freak out when we find these but what ever you do don't go look on the internet".  Ha, yeah right, first thing I did....
Carcinoid cases where you wait until you have a problem - you have about 5 yrs max.
I've been clean ever since.  Grateful I went in.
The drugs are the highlight of the whole thing, for the 30 seconds I feel them.
They now such the air back out of you instead of making you fart which is nice if the nurses are cute.
Good on you for going in!
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: Tacotodd on August 25, 2021, 08:48:01 AM
Nurses are professionals and KNOW that everyone has done & will do that farting sooner or later. That's another part of life. I think that's part of why US young (redneck) guys find so much humor in it but only when it's done at the proper times ;)
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: Ed_K on April 18, 2022, 02:07:29 PM
 Well it's my turn for the great clean out ;D. Tue night and Wed off to the clinic to see what they can see, hope with now getting tumors they find nothing.
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: nativewolf on April 19, 2022, 09:03:15 AM
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on August 16, 2021, 06:20:44 PM
I have to start the prep on Wednesday afternoon at 2.  Dulcolax, Miralax, and then magnesium citrate the next morning.  Its a fun time.  You know what I'm talking about if you're doing what you should at your age, assuming you've reached that age.  My wife is bringing home all those presents when she gets home from work today.  Plus she's bringing me my diet for Wednesday, jello, juice and broth.  I can't believe its been 5 years.  I remember the last time so vividly.
There are better prep procedures than that in my opinion.  Then also better after colposcopy meals.  See if you doc can get you
 https://www.clenpiq.com/hcp/#:~:text=Take%20the%20first%20dose%20(1,5%20hours%20and%20before%20bed
Its better than straight mag citrate.  
Drink lots, lots during the day, all the clear stuff you can get.  
I find that it helps to significantly reduce physical activity the day of the prep (I am very skinny).  Helps me recover faster as I lose less weight.  It also helps to rachet down the food consumption so that there are no fiberours foods the days before.  Go to junk food and avoid meats and fruits and veggies for a couple of days.
I find it best to have the procedure first thing in the morning, it just means the day before strategy is simple and you spend less overall time fasting and fits into the daily routine and sleep schedule.
After the procedure I like to do a lot of probiotics, Kiefer , active yogurts, things like that.  Your gut is all funny because during the procedure you've not only been flushed out but they inflate the colon with CO2 to enable the camera to look at everything.  So, that stretching and balloning of the colon takes a bit of time to get over and for the colon to function properly.  
IT WORKS.  If you get the colonoscopy you will almost have no chance of colon cancer, they will catch it.  Two days of discomfort every 5 years is not a big deal.   Sure fire way to keep that cancer at bay.  Much harder to keep the other cancers at bay (skin, etc).  Some of us need one more often.  
I have a genetic defect which requires I have an endoscopy and colonoscopy every year.  So I'm on my 12, soon to be 13th.  Without this I'd be dead.  As it is even I might live to be 80.  With my genetic defect colon cancers are so aggressive that waiting for 5 years would be too late.  For most people though they grow slowly and any problem areas are removed during the colonoscopy and biopsies are done.  if you have a history of colon cancer discuss getting tested for Lynch Syndrome with your gastroenterologist.  Painless swab that could save your life, not expensive either.  

Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: kantuckid on April 20, 2022, 10:10:42 AM
In 2019 I got a "bad result" from a home stool test for occult blood in my stool. I was 77 back then and well past the age for regular procedures. I had been previously diagnosed as having a acid reflux with a hiatal hernia so my gastro doc went in both directions.
What he found was zero wrong on either end! It was a clean bill of health on both ends! I'll never trust that home stool test again! Neither do i have the hernia thing, but I do have acid reflux still yet but controlled. 
Just sharing some thought that I was proactive but got no negative results in doing so.
 I ask the question if I took a risk that was worth if overall? Doc said yes.  
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: firefighter ontheside on April 20, 2022, 05:06:49 PM
I don't believe I ever reportied that my biopsy was negative, so yearly check up with gastro and another scope in 5 years.  I do have a minor hiatal hernia and something called an inlet patch in my esophagus.  The figure I've had that since birth.  It's essentially a little area in my esophagus that makes stomach acid.  I take protonix every morning, which is a proton pump inhibitor like nexium, prilosec and others.  This one is just prescription and I guess a little stronger.  They want me to take it every day forever I guess.  It's to hopefully keep me from getting Barrett's esophagus, which can lead to cancer.  Next month I get my physical which includes a cancer screening.  They will do the fecal occult test.  Fun.  Last year they found cancer in one of our guys and he had part of his liver removed.  It was the first year we added that screening.  Glad we did, or he may never have found it until it was too late.  
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: kantuckid on April 22, 2022, 05:34:08 PM
My acid reflux "fix" is one 10mg omeprazole each a.m. which is 1/2 dose of the OTC version. Keeps me OK. The incorrect diagnosis of my hiatal hernia that was wrong-it was via an local x-ray, not a scope job or another throat look/see like endoscopic or CD scan. 
Not sure I'll ever have faith in those take home poop test again. 
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: Ed_K on April 24, 2022, 09:57:09 AM
 I made it thru the awful drink they sent me and got real lucky that they didn't find any polups or bad things they did mention that there was some pockets but I'm going to have to ask my VA Doc what that means.

 I have been on the 10 mg omeprazole also been eating them for 15yrs or so.
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: Don P on May 24, 2022, 05:31:50 PM
Pockets are diverticulosis, think of a moon crater in your intestine. Seeds, corn, nuts, stuff like that can get stuck in there, cause discomfort and possible infection. The discomfort... think holding the world and trying not to pass out from the rocking going on in your gut is called diverticulitis. I have severe pockets but they don't often cause problems. I've got fresh pics if you are curious. He cut out 8 polyps yesterday, and I think sucker punched me for good measure, it was a slow day today. Needless to say my first email was to my sisters, don't skip that appointment.
Title: Re: That Procedure A Man Needs after the Age of 40
Post by: Ed_K on May 25, 2022, 08:41:26 AM
 Thanks for the info Don. I'm glad you went and had the procedure, even if it was bad as mine for drinking that awful mixture. Sounds like they saved you from some problems down the road. Have a great day.