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Going door to door and administering the vaccine
« on: July 14, 2021, 07:25:03 AM »
How do you all feel about this?  I think this is wrong on so many levels, whats next 2nd amendment assault? 

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Re: Going door to door and administering the vaccine
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2021, 07:46:42 AM »
Not sure how this won't become a political thread and get moved but will leave this here for now. 

As a strong Constitutionalist I disagree with the practice. Actually just had this discussion with my wife yesterday in regards to dealing with my father and his refusal of medical treatment at times. She wanted to know if we could force him. I explained to her that he has a right to refuse medical treatment, although there may be personal consequences as a result of that right and it's not a path we can turn down to change due to the slippery slope it becomes and this door to door is an example of where that path can lead. 
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Re: Going door to door and administering the vaccine
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2021, 08:05:52 AM »
Thats something Id expect to hear about in Canada,  but even here I dont think that would work out. Sounds on par with something China would do. 

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Re: Going door to door and administering the vaccine
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2021, 11:11:52 AM »
Going door to door and offering to facilitate access to the vaccine sounds fine, similar to the way mobile blood drives are organized to reach a segment of the population that's willing to donate, just not sure how or when.

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Re: Going door to door and administering the vaccine
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2021, 11:42:01 AM »
Its definitely  not fine. Especially when pushing  a vaccine that is not FDA approved with possible  long term side effects. Yesterday  they were in talks with cellphone providers to read all texts  looking  for people  sharing side effects and talk about the vaccine. Social media is also removing posts about side effects now. Seems like they are hiding  something just like a communist  country. We can no longer  trust  the people in charge of this vaccine after reading recent news. I definitely  will not get a booster if it's  not FDA approved now. Send people  door to door to pass out voter I'd is what should be happening.
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Re: Going door to door and administering the vaccine
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2021, 12:11:26 PM »
If thy come here I will let Nancy deal with them and that ain't gonna be a good day for them  :)
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Re: Going door to door and administering the vaccine
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2021, 01:05:50 PM »
I agree with the above.  If they want to help, post a number to call IF you want someone to come to your house to give you the vaccine.  great for people with difficulties with mobility.  what a waste to try and convince people, not to mention knocking on doors of already vaccinated people.  where will they find qualified people to give the vaccine, and then have them go door to door.  are they going to stay and watch for the 15 minute after shot time.  if they have a reaction (very unlikely) I guess they call an ambulance.  what if the pt. refuses to go to the hospital.  Will they give a reward/cash to the door to door people.  might get unscrupulous, like magazine sales.  just make it easy for the ones that want it, answer questions for the ones that have them.  do not waste your time trying to convince and coerce people who have already made up their mind.
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Re: Going door to door and administering the vaccine
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2021, 04:28:27 PM »
I don't pay much attention to the news but the to the best of my knowledge what's being considered is going door to door to provide information rather than giving the actual vaccine.

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Re: Going door to door and administering the vaccine
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2021, 04:33:18 PM »
In North Carolina yesterday they were giving the vaccine right there as well, news reports on it. 

This has been in the works for a while. The Federal government doesn't get an idea and a week later boots are on the ground in multiple states, coordinating with local health departments complete with forms, training, etc. 

What's next in the playbook?
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Re: Going door to door and administering the vaccine
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2021, 05:32:18 PM »
If you don't agree just say so and close the door. Here the anti vaxers are picketing the centres and some are getting quite abusive. The news reported one had to endure a rascist, expletive filled rant about going back to India where he belonged.
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Re: Going door to door and administering the vaccine
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2021, 06:36:15 PM »
this has become so political and emotional.  that is why i do not wish anyone to show up on a door peddling the vaccine.  we had store employees punched for asking shoppers to where a mask as was required by the store (so they could stay open). 
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Re: Going door to door and administering the vaccine
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2021, 08:32:25 PM »
Hopefully when there is the distance of time this period will be used as a teaching lesson on how not to behave in times of trouble.

As a practical matter this is a worldwide pandemic, the vaccination rates in Indonesia and Africa matter just as much as the rates in Arkansas.

I'm not much into thumping on the Bible or the Constitution, they are both heavy books full of nuance and people pull whatever tidbit out of both that seems to make their point. They are both based on a very simple premise though, it is my first check on my thoughts and actions. "Do not unto another man what you would not have done unto yourself". The rest is pretty much commentary. I would not hold you down and stick a needle in you. In that same thought, I also would not risk making you sick if I have the ability not to. Anything else in my own conscience would just be excuses for breaking that law. 
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Re: Going door to door and administering the vaccine
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2021, 09:02:01 PM »
our oath, "first do no harm"!
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Re: Going door to door and administering the vaccine
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2021, 10:21:46 PM »
 Here the anti vaxers are picketing the centres and some are getting quite abusive. The news reported one had to endure a rascist, expletive filled rant about going back to India where he belonged.
I haven't heard of anything like that here Roy. I know people that have gotten there jab and not been hassled at all. It seems most mind their own business although I have personally heard some wishing death on the pro choice factions
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Re: Going door to door and administering the vaccine
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2021, 10:53:03 PM »
The news reported one had to endure a rascist, expletive filled rant about going back to India where he belonged.


Some groups will use any platform to incite and attack others, we saw a lot of that over the past year in the States.  There is zero place for such behavior, and even if the group was supporting my position on a matter I would have no issue standing up to them.  
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Re: Going door to door and administering the vaccine
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2021, 11:36:40 PM »
@Paul_H it happened in Kelowna the other day, I saw the story on infotel. They even identified him and ran his picture, he is probably quite proud of himself.
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Re: Going door to door and administering the vaccine
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2021, 10:50:35 AM »
I'll be completely frank to say that I'm one of those that will never get this vaccine. I have serious problems with the time frames of testing, the way it's being pushed, and whether the risks of the virus outweigh the risks of either catching it or getting the vax. 

That said, I don't really care if they come door-to-door, I'll just say no thanks. 

My perspective basically echoes @21incher above, except I'm at the point where it'll be very tough for me to trust these vaccines getting FDA approval. Give it 10, 15, 20 years of study and open records of those studies and maybe I'd consider it, but I've seen these attempts to scare and vax the whole population far too many times for me to buy it. 

I have no issues with either those that get vaxxed or not, it's none of my business. While I always hope that people won't judge me or dislike me based on these opinions I've been around on social media to know that's unlikely. 
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« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2021, 10:56:57 AM »
@aigheadish it is fully your choice, and I respect your decision.  for what it is worth and for the record.
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« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2021, 10:59:23 AM »
Thanks @doc henderson that means a lot. I've read a lot of your stuff here and that's nice to hear coming from you! 

I've got some admonishment from some folks in my family and it breaks my heart, but I guess that's the choice I'm making.
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Re: Going door to door and administering the vaccine
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2021, 01:26:33 PM »
I got my jab when the County Health Department posted on Facebook they were taking appointments. Then I got notified almost daily via text msg my pharmacy was offering it, my PCP's office via email etc. Some folks don't have either of those things, especially regular wellness visits. Maybe calling it community outreach instead of door to door would be less inflammatory. The John Prine song Hello In There might best describe the target market .

I remember something I learned from my Dad. He was Secretary of a publicly traded corporation. The widow of one of the founders owned a substantial block of the stock, and he would call her every year to ask her if she would send in her proxy prior to the annual stockholders meeting. She just wanted to be asked nicely.


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