Anybody own a 110 prentice

[treefarmer87]

what is your opinion on this loader?

[4genlgr]

i ran one for 20 years or so  what do you need to know?  if you search under my user name for my posts you'll find a discussion with another forum member about the truck and loader he was getting and i told him a bunch of stuff to look for and maintain on a 110 from my experience. ask the questions i'll be happyto answer

[treefarmer87]

i was curious how many people had them i dont think too many were made i would like to see some pics too mine is on a trailer like the big 384s and 410s but my trailer is much smaller i can tow it behind my c 65 log truck from site to site its powered by a ford 600 tractor motor i was thinking about getting a no hydralics delimber like one made by davco or the stripper for it but i dont think its got the power and its too small thanks for your opinions and input

[4genlgr]

welcome to the forum   where are you from?
prentice started their 110 series sometime in the early 70's and stopped in the mid 80's. it's just been a while and folks have moved on to 120's, 124's, f90's
mine was a 75 that i got used on a truck in the 81 and run until i got a 120 in 2002
a friend of mine ran his until 2007 when he  stopped trucking

both he and i broke the collar at the bottom of the tube in the middle not a good thing as that alows the bull gear to slip and all sorts of other crap
i fyou haven't looked at my post to "sparky" do so. i went through just about everything that i had welded or came loose on mine. i found the thread this morning by searching 'prentice 110'

someone had "fun" making a yard loader out of yours
as far as trying to use this as a pullthrough delimber, MHO is no it is not designed for that type of stresses. fir at -10* might work ok but anything else would start things cracking from the amount of twisting troque and slamming around that entails and the turing power needed is probably not there. it was designed to load and move wood around but not the high speed smashing and bashing of a turntable loader
some one else i knew hooked up a slasher to his truck hydrulics and slashed his delimbed wood using his truck mounted 110 i don't know how that worked out
everything considered a 110 is a decent loader for what it was designed to do, loading stuff; wood, cars, brush, junk, and i used mine to set some beams and the trusses in my house. i also lined trees up on the yard to get cut up but a diet of shock loads from a delimber aaaaahhh not so much

[treefarmer87]

thanks i am from buckingham va i figured it wasnt made to do delimbing, someone did have fun making it and they did a good job too the boys that had it before me hooked a slasher up but when the saw it the log it would stop, i guess the hydralics dont have enough flow or it needs a bigger pump mine has a new collar and turn gear on it they put it on less than a year ago

[4genlgr]

i'm in southern maine guess i won't worry about the tj
it takes some flow and pressure to run a slasher unit
what kind of bucket do you have on your loader?

[Maine372]

the big loaders that are designed for pull through limbers have a 3-4 ft slew (turn) gear and atleast two hydraulic rotors to power the rotation.

the 110 has that rack and pinnion on a gear thats only 12(if i remember)inches. that 110 is old and if you want it to last i would stay away from any type of delimbing. its designed to lift and then twist, alot less resistance than dragging sideways.

what kind of slasher did the previous owner try to install. i think a bar saw slasher takes less flow and pressure than a circular saw. most of the wear parts (bar, chain, sprocket) can be had through baileys (a site sponsor.) and the control valve can probly be salvaged off a used machine somwhere.

http://www.machinerytrader.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=6667480&dlr=1
this unit might fit your needs and budget but its a bit of a trip. looks to be self powered so you wouldnt put any more draw on your loader motor.

[treefarmer87]

thanks it got a skinny 180 degree grapple the boys had a bar saw but it didnt have the hydraclic flow to go through the log it would hit the bark then stop. that limber is a neat looking unit id like to have that when i cut pine pulp wood but i do that every once in a while i could buy or make a delimbing gate also and use my skidder when i get it

[aksawyer]

 i have a 110 prentice mounted on the back of a white 64wx.It was a Garbage truck here in Alaska,I took all the garbage lift and compaction unit off.Put on an old set of trip bunks and went to work hauling short logs for our mill.It is an old model but works good.Now I need to rebuild the tranny in our J.D.550B.....aksawyer   

[treefarmer87]

o ok i have a 450 c

[mad murdock]

had a prentice 110G on a '78 autocar construktor, was quite the tank.  Legally we could haul 50,000 lbs in the spring, summer and fall, in the winter we could go 10,000 lbs over with frozen roads.  A pretty good jag for an old truck.  The loader was solid.  Prentice builds pretty good stuff.  I think that it would not be good to re-tool it for other uses.  Harvesters and delimbers are engineered from the ground up to do what they do, the 110G was built to be a grapple loader, nothing more, nothing less.  I think you would be fixing it all the time if you tried to re-engineer it.

[treefarmer87]

ok thanks for your input

[timberfaller390]

Just thought ya'll would like to know this thread is the first site listed on a yahoo search for "prentice 110" The Forum does it again  8)

[treefarmer87]

thats good

[rickywashere]

hehe a 110 is the first one i ran great piece of equipment

[sparky]

4genlgr mentioned that he had provided me with answers to some questions I had regarding 110s. I have a 1976 mounted on an International 2050 with a 466 diesel. I did not get to put it to much use as I was doing a lot of repair work on the truck. Mine is very straight with no bends, or welds to be found anywhere. I feel that is evidence that they were very well designed and built. I loaded a couple of steel coils that weighed about 7000 pounds each. The hydraulics handled it, but I expect that 30 years of use may have degraded the performance to some extent. I have a photo in my home page.

Sparky