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Re: Decided to go gas. 8.1 to be exact. 04 model
« Reply #60 on: June 16, 2021, 05:50:44 AM »
Like I said
I had a 8.1 it was a beast and pulled hard.
The new ford gas 7.3 is getting factory twin turbos next year.
Lt 40 wide with 38hp gas and command controls , F350 4x4 dump and lot of contracting tools

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Re: Decided to go gas. 8.1 to be exact. 04 model
« Reply #61 on: June 16, 2021, 10:35:58 AM »
Like I said
I had a 8.1 it was a beast and pulled hard.
The new ford gas 7.3 is getting factory twin turbos next year.
A twin turbo 7.3 from the factory. OMG, take my money. 
This might be the only way I get out of the diesel for heavy hauling. 

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Re: Decided to go gas. 8.1 to be exact. 04 model
« Reply #62 on: June 16, 2021, 03:07:27 PM »
I ordered a 21, 2-3 months go. Dealership said it has been converted to a 22  ::) ,said I might get it by fall . I ordered the 7.3 gasser if it comes with twins, it just might be worth the wait  ;D .

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« Reply #63 on: June 17, 2021, 07:27:28 AM »
If I won the lottery 
I would get a f250 2wd with 7.3 twin turbos lower it , cat backs, chip it and 60's all around.
And do some smoke shows around town  :D :D
Lt 40 wide with 38hp gas and command controls , F350 4x4 dump and lot of contracting tools

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« Reply #64 on: June 17, 2021, 02:56:31 PM »
Does it have an Allison transmission behind it? My dad has an 04 with 55-60K miles on it I believe. It pulls like a freight train, but mileage was terrible thus the low miles. Now he has a 6.7 Powerstroke so it mostly sits. He won't sell it, which is aggravating :D

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« Reply #65 on: June 17, 2021, 05:41:16 PM »
I had an Allison in mine it pulled hard .
5 to 6 miles a gallon at most.
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Re: Decided to go gas. 8.1 to be exact. 04 model
« Reply #66 on: June 19, 2021, 12:28:38 PM »
If I won the lottery
I would get a f250 2wd with 7.3 twin turbos lower it , cat backs, chip it and 60's all around.
And do some smoke shows around town  :D :D
The “brodozer” lol 

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« Reply #67 on: June 21, 2021, 08:53:21 AM »
I had an Allison in mine it pulled hard .
5 to 6 miles a gallon at most.
That is pitiful.  Old semis fully loaded get that in the mountains. Theres no excuse for a pickup to be that bad. 

My 12v dually got 11 with a bad convertor!
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Re: Decided to go gas. 8.1 to be exact. 04 model
« Reply #68 on: July 02, 2021, 12:41:39 PM »
Has Allison 
12 mpg empty 
7-8 mpg loaded

The 16 duramax gets 9.5 loaded with same load

I'll take the gasser. Small fuel tank. That sucks

On the 7.3 gas from ford w/ twins. No need for it to have twins. The extremely small advant isn't worth the extra costs in my opine. A motor that small and with that low of boost psi, nope

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« Reply #69 on: July 02, 2021, 02:12:09 PM »
I wouldn't be surprused if the twin turbo setup has more to do with emissions than power.
Too many irons in the fire

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« Reply #70 on: July 02, 2021, 05:04:47 PM »
I had an Allison in mine it pulled hard .
5 to 6 miles a gallon at most.
That is pitiful.  Old semis fully loaded get that in the mountains. Theres no excuse for a pickup to be that bad.

My 12v dually got 11 with a bad convertor!
I was jobing around a lot when I had that truck.
24' job trailer on the back pulling lots of hills in NH and Vt
Lt 40 wide with 38hp gas and command controls , F350 4x4 dump and lot of contracting tools

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« Reply #71 on: July 02, 2021, 05:09:01 PM »
I wouldn't be surprused if the twin turbo setup has more to do with emissions than power.
Yeah maybe, but hard to see where 2 help in any noticeable way, but they wood know that if that was the case

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« Reply #72 on: July 02, 2021, 05:11:14 PM »
I had an Allison in mine it pulled hard .
5 to 6 miles a gallon at most.
That is pitiful.  Old semis fully loaded get that in the mountains. Theres no excuse for a pickup to be that bad.

My 12v dually got 11 with a bad convertor!
I was jobing around a lot when I had that truck.
24' job trailer on the back pulling lots of hills in NH and Vt
and how much better does a diesel get pulling same load. Like I said earlier, we get about 2 mpg lower pulling same load. If that holds or anywhere near that, again proves that the diesel isn't worth the extra costs

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« Reply #73 on: July 02, 2021, 07:04:00 PM »
When you say loaded what does that mean? 20k lbs? 5k lbs?

Your loaded diesel mpg seems low. Guy hauls a lot of hay for me with 21k lbs of bales on a 9?k lbs trailer and averages 13.5.

I hauled almost 17k lbs of pipe and trailer behind my old 7.3 2 weeks ago and averaged 16.3 over a 250 mile trip.

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« Reply #74 on: July 02, 2021, 11:05:17 PM »
When you say loaded what does that mean? 20k lbs? 5k lbs?

Your loaded diesel mpg seems low. Guy hauls a lot of hay for me with 21k lbs of bales on a 9?k lbs trailer and averages 13.5.

I hauled almost 17k lbs of pipe and trailer behind my old 7.3 2 weeks ago and averaged 16.3 over a 250 mile trip.
14k

The diesel doesn't even know its back there. Amazing power. On the mileage. I didn't manually check it. I was going by the computer. The gas we manually checked

I guess it could be off, but doubt that much

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Re: Decided to go gas. 8.1 to be exact. 04 model
« Reply #75 on: July 03, 2021, 11:43:55 AM »
I am going to put a set of stainless headers, that'll help a bit also


I do see they make a blower setup for it. $7,100. Not too bad. It does take new pistons though if you want over 5 psi. I'll maybe do that next year

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« Reply #76 on: July 03, 2021, 12:19:00 PM »
The diesel engines aren't worth the extra for me.
I know most won't agree with me.
If I was pulling load cross country I would consider it.
Lt 40 wide with 38hp gas and command controls , F350 4x4 dump and lot of contracting tools

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« Reply #77 on: July 03, 2021, 02:09:44 PM »
The mileage computers are about as accurate as the weatherman, in my experience 

Cat ACERT diesel engines run twin turbos and it has something to do with emissions. 
Too many irons in the fire

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« Reply #78 on: September 12, 2021, 09:13:03 AM »
Just got back from Georgia with this load. 11 mpg w/ trailer empty average and 8 loaded. Total load was just under 18k. Set cruise at 75 and it barely wavered no matter the hill

Did add a 50 gallon transfer tank though. Could save $0.20 per gallon on a fill up by using the gas app








 

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« Reply #79 on: September 12, 2021, 11:15:11 PM »
My old F-450 with the v-10 averages about 12 empty, but I can't go as fast with the 488 rear gear.  Just don't want to scream the engine.  Pulling the trailer in 5th gear, I run about 55. It is the 6 speed manual, 6th is OD.
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