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Started by redbeard, November 12, 2019, 01:31:25 AM

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redbeard

I toasted a blade in that mud , blade rose a inch in the last 6-8" of cut. On the last cut. After pressure washing the clay out,
The edges and root inclusions are a shiny black  curious too see if the wood will stay hard and not spongy.

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mtoo747

Quote from: redbeard on November 20, 2019, 11:47:31 AM


 

milling the  English Walnut / Black Walnut Burled stump ( Cookie style 3" slabs turned out some nice figure and larger slabs.
 

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Now THAT is a COOKIE!!!!! 8)

hacknchop

Spectacular I'm impressed thank you for sharing this wonderful experience 
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redbeard

 
 the California English Walnut Orchard is getting closer too all the stumps and trunks removed.
Awaiting some pics of stacks soon to be done.
He did send me this one of a 24" dia. Trunk with another nice (Onion) my nickname for round burls.
This one is 60" across, should yeild some nice wide figured cookie slabs.
 
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Trahlin

I'm seeing some fantastic shotgun stocks and forearms when I look at this wood! 8)
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Ianab

I think this is an English Walnut. Friend wanted them taken down as they are monstering the neighbours house, and starting to shed ~18" branches.  There are 2 of them. Maybe 4ft dia?

Contractor was lined up to drop them with the help of an excavator, but they took a 2nd look, and didn't think the 12 ton was enough insurance. They are coming back to do more ground work and will bring some Heavy Metal for that job. Lean a 20 ton machine on them and you have a lot more reserve push. 

But they can just lay them on the ground, then I can do something with them. 

Note the native epiphytes growing up there. A mix of ferns and orchids. Rain Forest climate.  Stuff just grows. 
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AK Newbie

What an awesome project Jeff!  I recently sawed up a big chunk of California walnut burl for a friend who had stored it in his shop for 20+ years.  Loved the character in those slabs.  Thanks for sharing this adventure I look forward to following it!



 

 

 
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redbeard

 

 

 My 5 gallon jug of Pentacryl
Showed up today. Going to apply it on the end grain and Burled Walnut cookies and slabs tomorrow.
If anyone has some experience using this product with any tips, please chime in. This is new territory for us 
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redbeard

 
 
 took a bit too get this burl stump set up too get some nice level cuts.
 we got 36" rounds and two 48" + rounds.
 
 some real nice full burl slabs
 
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Magicman

I really need to be there with you!!!  :)
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Stephen1

Quote from: redbeard on November 20, 2019, 03:24:55 PM
I toasted a blade in that mud , blade rose a inch in the last 6-8" of cut. On the last cut. After pressure washing the clay out,
The edges and root inclusions are a shiny black  curious too see if the wood will stay hard and not spongy.
At least it was the last cut. Will you still be able to slavage those 2? How thick do you mill them? 
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TimGA

Jeff,
   Really nice, looks like that Hudsun does a really nice job.
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samandothers

Glad to see this thread pop back up.  Really neat wood slabs. 

thecfarm

Yes, very nice looking wood!!!
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offrink

Would like to know how you used that wood stabilizer for the cookies. I was under the impression that you needed to submerge the whole cookie for quite a while. 

redbeard

We have been milling the burl slabs at 3" thick, We have figured out that if we use the pressure washer (2500 psi) too clean the slabs of clay, dirt and spend some time removing all of bark off the 3" live edge too expose the beauty of spikes and karbunkles it should really help with the air drying process. When they air dry down too 16-18% they will be ready for kiln drying. 
When there dry and ready for wood working we will take them down the road close by too my friend that has a awesome CNC machine that can flatten, sand and polish the surfaces.
Then we will pour dentures alcohol on surface and take pics for internet marketing.
The Pentacryl is new too me and we are trying different techniques so far brushing it on heavy seems too work.
We wait two weeks after milling so all the pressure washing water has a chance too dissipate.
We're only using Pentacryl on end grain slabs.
Results have shown no major checking or curling on the thin practice cookies we have for testing using cedar, fir, oak, Madrone.
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Autocar

Gun stock blanks is what I see. I have paid big bucks for English Walnut stock blanks. Beautiful wood you have there for sure. We have a few English Walnuts in our area but when I sawed them I wasn't real impressed with the color or figure. I never new that the burls were growing under ground like that. Pretty interesting !
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wkf94025

I had a nice chat with @redbeard last night about his 2019 California adventure with walnut.  I have access to an dozen walnut coming down soon, and it's the typical graft situation, black (?) walnut rootstock with English above.  Question for this savvy crowd:  which species is more marketable, and in which form?  Slabs, cookies, dimensional, charcuterie, gun stocks? And English or black?  (Maybe the answer is "all" to both questions.)  Some refer to the root stock as claro, but I thought claro was a different species.  I appreciate any guidance.  For those who have extracted rootballs ("onions" as @redbeard refers to them), and advice on equipment and technique?  Thanks all.  Here are a few sample logs taken from the job earlier this week.  More photos and dimensions later this week.



 
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Crossroads

Neat project! There will be a lot of coffee tables around soon. 
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OlJarhead

Ohhh I love English Walnut!

My bar, a coffee table and more are made from it.  Sawed it thick, planed/jointed it down once dry :D
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wkf94025

The English walnut is an easy ID.   However, having some trouble confirming which species of walnut this is, based on internet photos and descriptions.
Based on this resource, it seems to me to be either California Black Walnut (Juglans californica) or Northern California Black Walnut (Juglans hindsii).  

"The Northern California walnut tree has a single trunk, and the tree grows up to 60 ft. (18 m) tall. Also called Hinds' black walnut or claro walnut, the tree is mostly used in the lumber industry.  The 'Hinds' black walnut's leaves are about 12" (30 cm) long. The blades are made up of 13 – 21 leaflets up to 5″ (12 cm) long. There are some small tufts of hair on the leaves."  

Anyone?




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tule peak timber

Now you have me wondering. There is a slight difference in bark structure on this old grafted walnut bottom and some of the nongrafted walnut I have in the yard. The (Black/Claro) two walnuts look slightly different when milled but not so much that they could not be mixed together on a project. The grafted logs I have are older than me and I always assumed that the bottoms were Claro, now you have me questioning that.

 

 
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