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Title: Mice....
Post by: Curlybirtch on August 23, 2021, 10:18:11 AM
Any of you have the same feelings for these devils as I do? Nothing like ruining a good weekend of gathering saw logs. Engine is fine, cleaned it all out, none of that nest was visible when I went to start it. Only when mouse parts went flying did I realize there was a problem. My mill is outside but under a tarp, If it sits for more than a week unused I pull the airbox cover off and check things out before I start it up, and I did that here as well.  Other than that I had a good haul out of the woods from two massive EWP's. Both measured out at about 120', got 18 - 8'6" logs out of them. Roughly 4' at the base. I had my eye on these earlier in the winter and mother nature finally decided to give them a push a month or so a ago.  They are a little dirty but everything here is mud mud mud. Real nice logs, should make for some good sawing baring any more rodent infestations.
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Post by: mike_belben on August 23, 2021, 10:26:49 AM
that one was definitely more costly on the mouse than you!
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Post by: Crusarius on August 23, 2021, 12:04:21 PM
your lucky. You got the stupid mouse!!! I have the same issue and have missed getting him a few times. Next time he will not be so lucky!
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Post by: moodnacreek on August 23, 2021, 12:29:49 PM
And then there is mud wasps, more every year. They like cooling fins.
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Post by: jpassardi on August 23, 2021, 12:31:43 PM
Nice white pine haul there...
Yes - been there. They filled my engine housing like that and crapped all over in the air box but not beyond the air filter.
I like all creatures - with the strong exception of mice and mosquitos!
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Post by: YellowHammer on August 23, 2021, 12:33:19 PM
I hate them.  They love the taste of insulation and will short circuit things in everything they nest in.  Plus they are nasty little buggers.  

I purchase the little green mouse poison cubes, in the little safety enclosures, and put them everywhere, around the mill, in the boaters, workbenches, cabinets, etc..  They will kill them.  
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Post by: Crusarius on August 23, 2021, 01:24:27 PM
I had the mud bees pack all of my vent lines solid. took me couple times pulling the carb to clean it to realize what happened. Now my mill runs again.
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Post by: Tacotodd on August 23, 2021, 01:29:38 PM
Yes it runs, but does run GREAT?
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Post by: Crusarius on August 23, 2021, 01:42:16 PM
I am getting a good deal of white smoke. not sure why but it is running and has power. It could use an oil change.
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Post by: fluidpowerpro on August 23, 2021, 02:35:35 PM
I was at Menards the other day and saw they had various brands of mouse repellent bags. They look like little bean bags with powder in them. I bought a few to put in my boat and under snowmobile hoods. Figured its worth a try. Has anyone used them with any success?
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Post by: farmfromkansas on August 23, 2021, 02:48:45 PM
Before I got some really good hunting cats, would put rat bait inside about 8" long pieces of plastic pipe. Seems to be a natural thing for mice and rats to run inside a piece of pipe, but I would drill a hole across the pipe and put a wire through with a piece of rat bait on the wire, then tie the wire on the outside.  Would check the bait about once a week, and replace if it was gone.  Really helped around my shop.  Even seems to help in the engine compartment of my truck, works better than just tying bait in the engine compartment.
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Post by: JJ on August 23, 2021, 02:49:37 PM
I have had good luck with storing boats & motors under cover, with the old fashioned moth balls as mouse repellent.  Easy to find and cheep.

      JJ
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Post by: HemlockKing on August 23, 2021, 02:52:57 PM
Anyone had luck with Irish spring soap bar shavings? I had someone say that works 
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Post by: fluidpowerpro on August 23, 2021, 03:02:09 PM
I was of the impression moth balls helped also but then last year I was helping a friend take his snowmobile out of storage. He opened the hood and found mice had built a nest on top of the bag of mothballs he put in the fall before! Maybe the mice in northern MN are immune....
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Post by: YellowHammer on August 23, 2021, 03:13:48 PM
Iíve used the bags, but much prefer the little green blocks, and the mice do as well.  Iíve had so many hundreds of dollars damage done by the little monsters and Iím way past trying to repel them because they just go somewhere else, like inside my planer.  Yuck, it took awhile to clean that bloody mess up, not to mention the stain it left on the board. 

 

  

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Post by: Curlybirtch on August 23, 2021, 03:34:16 PM
I've tried moth balls and dryer sheets....the *DanG things just chew on them and laugh at me. I stay away from the poison because I've got 3 dogs that do a good job of thinning the mice/mole/vole population and had a real bad experience with the pups a few years back when they got into some of the neighbors poison. A family of Owls has moved in up the woods a bit and they are helping keep the local varmints at bay as well, but you'll never get them all.
Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: JJ on August 23, 2021, 04:47:02 PM
found mice had built a nest on top of the bag of mothballs


yea, you need the old style moth balls with dichlorobenzene -had to look it up the benzene is the good stuff.   Most moth balls now use Naphthalene as active ingredient (kinder and gentler).

     JJ
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Post by: Skip on August 23, 2021, 07:22:23 PM
I hate the smell of fried mice in the morning !  >:(
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Post by: D6c on August 23, 2021, 07:35:54 PM
Any more I put aluminum mesh over the air cleaner intakes on all my equipment, and any other opening I can find that might be a good nesting spot.  
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Post by: samandothers on August 23, 2021, 08:21:58 PM
I've tried moth balls and dryer sheets....the *DanG things just chew on them and laugh at me. I stay away from the poison because I've got 3 dogs that do a good job of thinning the mice/mole/vole population and had a real bad experience with the pups a few years back when they got into some of the neighbors poison. A family of Owls has moved in up the woods a bit and they are helping keep the local varmints at bay as well, but you'll never get them all.
We tried Irish Spring they gnawed on it and pooped on it.  Don't think it works.  I usually have to take the fly wheel cover off my LT35 before using and clean.  Last time I wanted to pull it the running lights did not work.  Yep, they cut the wire in the cross member.  They also build in the fly wheel and under cowling of the zero turn. 
We plan to sell our camper we have used as a cabin on our land in Va. Been cleaning and getting ready to market.   It has issue with the running lights, brake lights and back up lights.  I have found one wire cut and I am sure I'll find more.  We have hesitated using poison and it can poison the critters that feed on them.  We have used traps in the camper but it is a loosing battle.  The produce faster than they get snapped!
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Post by: sprucebunny on August 23, 2021, 08:55:07 PM
I have mice in the car I drive everyday ! Only food in there was cough drops and they are supposed to hate mint.

Had to make a custom mouse trap mount to get the one that is up in the ceiling. I removed the overhead light and put this up there.

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Hope this works. I hate mice. It's an ongoing battle on all the equipment.
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Post by: KenMac on August 23, 2021, 09:03:12 PM
My neighbor told me today that he has good luck with Essential oils of peppermint and cinnamon diluted and sprayed in his second camper that they don't use to repel mice. Have to respray every couple months, but says it works well for him.
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Post by: HemlockKing on August 24, 2021, 06:47:11 AM
I have mice in the car I drive everyday ! Only food in there was cough drops and they are supposed to hate mint.

Had to make a custom mouse trap mount to get the one that is up in the ceiling. I removed the overhead light and put this up there.

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Hope this works. I hate mice. It's an ongoing battle on all the equipment.
I was gonna suggest maybe you could smoke him out with a hose from the exhaust to a cracked window idling for a hour or so with heater on recirculate cabin air so it smokes the vents too, but then youíd have a nasty stinky dead mouse to find lol 
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Post by: DMcCoy on August 24, 2021, 07:37:43 AM
Any more I put aluminum mesh over the air cleaner intakes on all my equipment, and any other opening I can find that might be a good nesting spot.  
Yup, covered the air intake on a brand new tractor.  Chipmunks might be cuter but they are just as bad.
I have been on a mission to get my place wildfire prepped.  More mowing and getting rid of brush down to small sticks lying on the ground.  I have noticed a drastic change in the mouse population. If they want to make it to my house they have a lot of very exposed ground to cover.   It doesn't take much to hide a mouse, just a chunk of bark will do.
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Post by: boonesyard on August 24, 2021, 10:37:42 AM
The mouse war has been ongoing around here for years. They've done thousands of dollars in damage to our campers, equipment, headliners, wiring, engines, seats, etc. We've tried everything from traps, water traps, sonic deterrents, natural deterrents and cats. I've used the hard green block poison (Tomcat) in the bait stations to keep away from the other animals, but it has only been semi effective. We just couldn't stay ahead of them.

 A couple years ago, we had an exterminator come to the farm to assess the issue. He explained that the hard baits are not very effective in that they are waxed base and don't give off much aroma, in other words not as palatable as soft baits. We went to a soft bait called First Strike that has a high acceptance by rodents even with competing food sources. Its packaging allows the aroma to escape and it remains soft even during winter months. It is an anticoagulant so we still have to be careful with application, we use tamper-proof bait stations. The great thing is when they ingest the stuff, they head for water. We very seldom find the stinky remains in equipment or campers. The carcasses dry up very quickly and are not very palatable to other critters re: potential cross contamination. 

We've come to the realization that we can not keep the mice out. So if they are going to move in where they don't belong, we want them to find the bait quickly and effectively. This stuff works!

The other destructive rodents we regularly deal with are chipmunks and fox squirrels, but that's for another day. 

  
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Post by: YellowHammer on August 24, 2021, 04:07:42 PM
Great info, I'll be buying some of this stuff.  Is it like a gel? All out war on these little monsters!

I remember a couple years ago, I had them get under the cowl of my outboard motor, destroyed some stuff including the high dollar ECU.  The boat was parked in a closed shed.  After paying to get it fixed, I refrained from putting the green blocks in the motor cowl, and sure enough the very next year, the little beasties nested in the exact same place, and ruined the exact same ECU.  I about came unglued!!  I assume once they nest somewhere, they pee everywhere, and other mice recognize that this is a good nesting place.  So now, I slipped a green block up under the engine cover and no more mice.

However, I am always looking for more firepower.  
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Post by: boonesyard on August 24, 2021, 04:40:39 PM
It's a blue/green soft cake substance. 

Last year, after winterizing his motor home (a real nice one), my brother had to park the rig inside a different building over the winter. He's never had mouse issues, so he kind of ignored my suggestions to stay ahead of it and not let them get a foot hold, ever. When he picked it up this spring, they had just about destroyed the place. The stench was so bad, he could barely drive it home. Both air conditioners were packed full, they had chewed off the thermostat and power wires for the AC and heat, the duct work was packed full through out the coach. He was just sick. He caught 29 with conventional traps, but couldn't get the urine and poop out of the ducting, or the smell. Ended up taking it to a professional cleaning service that did the best they could and ran ozone in it for days to get the smell under control. He got the wiring redone, replaced one AC unit and was able to clean and salvage the other. It's taken all spring/summer to get it to this point. We have a big labor day trip planned, but he doesn't know if he'll ever get his wife in it again. He just bought a large bucket of First Strike.

Filthy beasts
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Post by: beenthere on August 24, 2021, 05:22:56 PM
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I assume once they nest somewhere, they pee everywhere, and other mice recognize that this is a good nesting place.

What has worked for me when trying to prevent re-occurrence of mice re-nesting (and raccoon dumping on the deck) is to spray/rinse with bleach solution. Seems to destroy the critters' "homing-in" on the previous latrine location. 
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Post by: farmfromkansas on August 24, 2021, 07:11:31 PM
We have had the best luck with cats, were lucky enough to find some that really enjoy hunting.  Thing is, we have to lock them up at night, to keep the coyotes and bobcats etc from eating our cats. We have 6 now, and Kathy has had them all neutered, so no kittens, but our granddaughter's cat had 7 kittens so will probably have to take one or 2 of those. When the mice get thinned out, they hunt birds.  Kathy has bird feeders, but now no birds are visiting, suppose because the cats are working hard at catching them.  She finds piles of feathers when she mows.
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Post by: boonesyard on August 25, 2021, 09:24:35 AM
We have had the best luck with cats, were lucky enough to find some that really enjoy hunting.  Thing is, we have to lock them up at night, to keep the coyotes and bobcats etc from eating our cats. We have 6 now, and Kathy has had them all neutered, so no kittens, but our granddaughter's cat had 7 kittens so will probably have to take one or 2 of those. When the mice get thinned out, they hunt birds.  Kathy has bird feeders, but now no birds are visiting, suppose because the cats are working hard at catching them.  She finds piles of feathers when she mows.
Cats work great, but we had the same issues with coyotes, eagles and owls, can't keep them around long. Just lost another real good cat to coyotes. They love my wife's bird feeders as well.
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Post by: YellowHammer on August 25, 2021, 01:07:32 PM
We had 5 cats, they killed a bunch but about once every few days, they would bring a live one into the house and let it loose.  They are getting older now anyway, and about the only thing they hunt now are bowls of Purina Cat Show.

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Post by: stanwelch on August 25, 2021, 03:35:36 PM
I started using Talon weatherBlox XT Rodenticide two years ago. Very effective !  Previous years Iíve had multiple vehicles, sawmill engine damage from mice. Tried the mothballs, DeCon, 5 gal water traps etc with limited success. Iím placing blocks in my tractor around the sawmill in the wood shop and in the tree house. Finally winning the war!
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Post by: farmfromkansas on August 25, 2021, 04:07:54 PM
Hooked up my new to me H&S manure spreader, was giving it a trial run empty when I saw a rat run out of the thing this morning.  Guess I better get my rat bait out again.  Made one of those walk the plank U tube traps last winter, and caught no rats but was tough on possums. Neighbor caught more than 100 rats in a tiny little box trap last winter, under his fire wood pile.
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Post by: goose63 on August 25, 2021, 05:25:28 PM
We use fresh cab get it at the hardware store been working good so far
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Post by: YellowHammer on August 25, 2021, 07:19:50 PM
At 6:00 this morning Iím driving the boat across the water, perfect day.  Catching bass on top waters.

9:00 the sun is out, itís getting hot. Iím starting to smell something from under the drivers console.  

12:00 its really hot.  Alabama August hot. Fish arenít hitting.  Iím sweating.  There is a real stench coming from under the console.  I can almost taste the air.  Iím headed back to the ramp.  Something is dead in the boat and it isnít me.    

12:30 Iím in the parking lot, on the hot asphalt, baking, and ďEureka!Ē Or more like ďOh No!Ē Because under the gas pedal, there is an exploded rat the size of a kangaroo.  It apparently tried to hide under the pedal, but it definitely died under the pedal.  For all I know I killed it first thing this morning when I stepped on the gas pedal, or it died in there a couple days ago.  Either way, it was still juicy. Then it started melting in the sun and heat. Oh what a squashed, exploded, stinky mess.

2:00 Iím home pressure washing the mess out.  Gloves on, digging melted and crushed woolly mammoth from the hot foot pedal mechanism. Iím not a happy camper.  

3:00 All done. Hereís the boat drying out in the sun, all clean and mostly clean smelling.  I had to park it on a steep bank so I could flush all the dead elephant fur out of the drain plug hole.  The pieces and parts kept clogging up the drain and screens.  So more water, more flushing, reach in there, scoop out the mess, and flush some more.  Gag.  What a fun day.

I hate mice and rats. I think I may have mentioned that.

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Post by: boonesyard on August 26, 2021, 09:14:51 AM
They're such loving passengers, YUCH!

2015 I bought a new Sitka Gear rain coat for an elk trip that year. Everything went well, got home and did some fall walleye fishing, used the new rain jacket. Winterized and stored the boat for the winter (this was pre First Strike), also left my coat in a compartment. Next spring, pulled it out, getting everything ready for the season, the winter guests had chewed one shoulder out of it and made a weather-proof nest in it. Not a rodent fan
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Post by: handhewn on August 26, 2021, 11:27:00 AM
The wood rats filled one of my old WWII trucks from floor to bottom of steering wheel with sticks/leaves etc. Also chewed radiator hoses such that all that was left were the clamps at each end. They were drinking the anti-freeze I guess ;D. They filled the radiator and engine block with acorns :(. After several radiator and block flushes it will now run without overheating. It was my fault for parking the truck in heavy foliage. I do not have this problem if I park my equip. in very open places. Wood rats will build large stick mounds that look like beaver lodges. They will do this for many generations until they have enough stuff piled that it would easily fill a pick-up truck.
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Post by: YellowHammer on August 26, 2021, 03:18:01 PM
My boat still stinks this morning....I may have missed something.... :'(
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Post by: HemlockKing on August 26, 2021, 03:40:06 PM
My boat still stinks 
The thing probably pithed just about everywhere lol 
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Post by: maple flats on August 26, 2021, 06:05:56 PM
I also use a product called "Fresh Cab". It works, but it's not cheap. I have 2 in the cab of my tractor  and had them there for 2 years, no mice. That is far longer than Fresh Cab says. In higher traffic areas I add a new one every 2 mos, but I leave the old until it's about a year old.
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Post by: YellowHammer on August 27, 2021, 07:30:29 AM
I may try the Fish Cab stuff.  It's supposed to rain here for several days, I may just pull the boat out in the rain and let it sit for a week.  Of course, if I leave it outside that long, and it gets clean, some more of the little beasties will probably get back in it.  
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Post by: doc henderson on August 27, 2021, 08:22:42 AM
@YellowHammer (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=11488) I think I see your problem.  He is recommending a product called "fresh cab", and you are getting "fish cab"!   :) :) :) :)
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Post by: maple flats on August 27, 2021, 11:07:18 AM
Yea, with fish cab the boat may be full of cats, and they'll rid it of mice.
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Post by: YellowHammer on August 27, 2021, 12:16:38 PM
Thatís hilarious.  A Freudian slip for sure.  Maybe I do need to throw some dead fish in there.  I donít know which stinks more, dead fish or dead mice.  
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Post by: caveman on August 27, 2021, 12:49:41 PM
Maybe y'all can convince @JMoore (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=12690) to share his rat (s) in the truck saga with the group.  He found a product to mitigate the odor.
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Post by: customsawyer on August 29, 2021, 07:18:14 AM
One of the worst smelling little rascals I ever came across was when one went skipping through the control box full of 480 volts. It only cost me a new 25 hp motor on the planer, and a few days down time.
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Post by: Magicman on August 29, 2021, 07:59:31 AM
When I first got my sawmill I kept it set up at my farm property so that I could 'practice' sawing.  Also during that time I had not learned the value of removing the blade at the end of each sawing day.  :-X

So one morning I went through my normal routine of cranking the engine and tightened the blade.  When I engaged the clutch, bang !!!, blade off and I was immediately met with mangled rat and rat guts everywhere.

I guess some lessons are better learned.  ::)
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Post by: miro on August 29, 2021, 10:17:29 AM
I had many of the same problems until a pal told me about the Wheel Of Death.

A 5 gal pail with about 2 in of old antifreeze in the bottom.
An empty tin can on a coat hanger axle across the top of the pail.
Bait the outside of the can with peanut butter and a bit along the axle.
A piece of wood that's a ramp up to one end of the axle, also baited.

Mouse smells dinner, crawls up the ramp, smells even more dinner crawls out on the axle to the tin can, mouse tries to balance, but rolls off into the drink.
the antifreeze drowns the mouse, and keeps the smell down.

I got 15 this past spring, 23 the year before.

I sprinkle cayenne pepper in my tools drawers to keep them away - I get the cheap stuff at the Bulk Barn store.

miro
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Post by: farmfromkansas on August 29, 2021, 10:59:39 AM
I built a larger version of that in a 35 gallon drum to catch rats.  Caught 7 possums instead. Guess the possums were what was eating my rat bait.  Possums seem to be immune to poison.
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Post by: doc henderson on August 29, 2021, 11:47:22 AM
we had an old shed with our pallets of chicken feed.  had 50 mice come from everywhere, when you went to get feed.  our lab would crazy and kill 5 in a row.  we made a trap over the 5 gallon bucket.  more like a teeter totter.
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Post by: DixieReb31 on August 30, 2021, 11:23:42 PM
If you ever find where theyíre entering, place steel wool in the entrance, they wonít eat through that.  However, it doesnít kill them. They just move on.  Iím for killing.
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Post by: doc henderson on August 31, 2021, 07:56:10 AM
I got a smart mouse in the shop.  I have seen him 3 times in the past 2 days.  I have set a repeating trap and 3 of the old wooden spring traps.  he has eaten the cheese off twice.  I need to switch to peanut butter so he has to work harder.  I got 4 traps for $1.25.  at least some things are still inexpensive.  they had all kids of "better mouse traps" but I went old school.
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Post by: DMcCoy on August 31, 2021, 08:05:48 AM
I got a smart mouse in the shop.  I have seen him 3 times in the past 2 days.  I have set a repeating trap and 3 of the old wooden spring traps.  he has eaten the cheese off twice.  I need to switch to peanut butter so he has to work harder.  I got 4 traps for $1.25.  at least some things are still inexpensive.  they had all kids of "better mouse traps" but I went old school.
I use those better built ones with the wide plastic trigger.  They don't break the skin so no dried blood/skin/hair left overs stuck to the wire-reusable.  You can bait the trigger if you need. 4 for $1.25 is way cheap.  At that price you can toss them out.
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Post by: samandothers on August 31, 2021, 08:06:33 AM
I have set a repeating trap and 3 of the old wooden spring traps.  he has eaten the cheese off twice.  I need to switch to peanut butter so he has to work harder.
What is a repeating trap?  We found the wooden ones do work better.  Peanut butter was the the ticket.
Need to work on the latch a bit to improve the trigger! Though that can lead to snapped fingers and frustration setting it up.
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Post by: Magicman on August 31, 2021, 08:09:56 AM
A small Victor trap baited with bacon or peanut/peanut butter will work.
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Post by: YellowHammer on August 31, 2021, 08:21:51 AM
I agree, those old school traps work well.  The jumpier the trigger, the better they catch.  I pay an exterminator to take care of or lumber building and he kept putting out the little bags of bait and they weren't working well because I kept seeing mouse droppings on my wood.  Finally, I bought a 6 pack of the traps and set them all the day before his next visit.  The next day, when he showed up, I had 5 mice in 6 traps.  Even he couldn't argue with that, and he changed over to a different bait, and more of it.  I still have traps set in the building, but now I only catch the occasional mouse.  I also have a big black snake that shows up every now and then, and I guess he's doing his job, also.

  
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Post by: doc henderson on August 31, 2021, 08:41:13 AM
the repeater is a metal box with two trap entry door. you set it along a wall, requires no bait  I had one in our garage for years and forgot about it.  it had 3 skeletons in it when I checked it.  I do not have food in my shop generally.  we eat the occasional fast food, and have some pack of spam singles and cashew up on a shelf.  I am sure this mouse is disappointed with where he is.  choices.  the repeater was on the same isle with cleaning supplies at Walmart and was 6 bucks.  the new one has a clear insert in the lid, so you can see if you need to dump it.  it is a live trap unless you forget about it. ::)

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For serious mouse problems you can't go wrong with the Tin Cat Repeating Mouse Trap with the Solid Top (Model M312). This paticular model is more discreet than the Tin Cat clear top , so that caught mice cannot be seen until the trap is opened. The Tin Cat Mouse Trap Solid Top is a live-catch trap that is easy to Ö
 
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Post by: HemlockKing on August 31, 2021, 10:05:13 AM
Use that live trap and see if anyone locally owns a big snake for a pet and sell them the mice for a extra couple bucks 
Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: doc henderson on August 31, 2021, 10:12:26 AM
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Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: pineywoods on August 31, 2021, 10:29:12 AM
Best solution I have found is called a sticky trap. 4X6 piece if stiff cardboard coated with some of the stickiest glue you can imagine. No setting, no bait, just place anywhere mice might travel. A dab of peanut butter in the center makes it even more effective. Cheap..pack of 4 traps under 2 bucks.
Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: Crusarius on August 31, 2021, 10:41:50 AM
problem with the sticky traps is the snakes and toads get stuck in them also. Once something is in them good they never come back out.

I have also found that bass love mice :)
Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: charles mann on August 31, 2021, 10:57:54 AM
Had some kind of rodent get under the hood of my tractor and chew the wiring at the connector for the #2 injector. I took the tractor in for low power, injector cut out test said #1 injector. I gave the go ahead for $1600 repair bill for 1 injector. While under the hood, they found the #2 injector harness damage. Clowns at kibota called and said $1300 for an entirely new engine harness. I told them to use some of their gray matter, think outside the box and fix it. Called me the next day and said they didnt know how fix w/o replacing the harness. I broke it down big bird cookie monster style for them with a near step by step direction on how to fix it and save a 10 yr and 3 tractor customer some $$$. They did it, but boy between the rats and the service dept, it was pain. 
Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: doc henderson on August 31, 2021, 01:16:33 PM
got one.  he is in the fire barrel with some soft maple scraps.  hate to put them in the trash, as it will stink before they pu on Friday.
Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: sawguy21 on August 31, 2021, 02:00:38 PM
I just finished resetting the traps, what a pain. The landlady is on a tear about mice, suggested I am not doing my part to control them ::) and gave me an electric trap. It uses 4 AAA batteries and two plates, the mouse crawls in steps on the plates to get the pb and ZAP! Haven't got one yet so don't know if it works. Once the weather cools I imagine we will get invaded.
Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: btulloh on August 31, 2021, 02:13:19 PM
These work pretty good and are easy to set: Mouse trap (https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwjI9Jqj7tvyAhVgbW8EHQ31CMMYABAMGgJqZg&sig=AOD64_3R0sl4L-WeRraykKHz6cFi6vsCZg&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwig8I-j7tvyAhXoFVkFHcLwBKkQwg96BAgBEEU&adurl=). Usually available wherever you buy your mouse traps

Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: sawguy21 on August 31, 2021, 02:17:01 PM
I have a couple similar to those, definitely easier on the fingers than those DanG Victors and are effective.
Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: DMcCoy on August 31, 2021, 08:04:17 PM
I'm hung up on using bacon for bait.  I hate rodents as much as the next guy but giving up my bacon would take some very serious rodent issue.
You guys are so so lucky you don't get pack rats (bushy tail wood rat).  About the size of a heavy red squirrel but stinks like a skunk.  Builds a giant volcano shaped nest and stores 'hay' for the winter.  Likes to eat pickup and car engine wiring.  I use victor # 1 leg hold traps meant for catching coyotes, baited with peanuts.  If you get one in an out building you can smell it the moment you open the door.  
Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: DMcCoy on August 31, 2021, 08:07:28 PM
I'm not sure using bacon for bait will work out here on the left coast, our mice are vegan.
Maybe a triple caramel latte with some free range carrot cake...
Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: HemlockKing on September 01, 2021, 07:43:58 AM
I'm not sure using bacon for bait will work out here on the left coast, our mice are vegan.
Maybe a triple caramel latte with some free range carrot cake...
Just use fish cab then, some
Vegans will eat fish but not red meat or poultry lol 
Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: doc henderson on September 01, 2021, 12:32:39 PM
@DMcCoy (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=26370) the mouse is usually dead before it has a chance to eat the bait...just sayin.  so you should be able to recover the bacon.   :)
Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: WV Sawmiller on September 01, 2021, 01:38:30 PM
problem with the sticky traps is the snakes and toads get stuck in them also. Once something is in them good they never come back out.
I have also found that bass love mice :)
   I knew bass would eat mice, squirrels, birds, baby alligators, snakes and anything else they can swallow but I never tried one for bait.

   As to the sticky traps we used them in Bagram in Afghanistan and had one out in a hootch and a mouse got in it and was squeaking and squealing and a 4' cobra tried to eat him and got caught on the sticky pad and was flopping around everywhere. It was one more mess!

Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: YellowHammer on September 01, 2021, 07:44:09 PM
I bet it was quite a mess trying to clean up a Cobra and a mouse full of bullet holes!!

Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: farmfromkansas on September 01, 2021, 09:58:41 PM
We have pack rats here in Kansas.  A year ago I opened the hood on my old F-250, and it was full to the top with leaves and sticks.  Thanks pack rats.  That was when I started filling the pipes with rat bait twice a week. 
Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: Resonator on September 02, 2021, 01:48:17 PM
I had skipped over this thread and not read it, I wish I had. My mill has been sitting for a couple weeks, had to rip a couple boards today. Turned the key and started up. Guess what happened? ???
Looked like the first pic. of this thread, even a little worse. YUCK!!! :o
Cleaned it all out and runs good. But it had started to chew the foam sleeve on the air filter, so I will be replacing that. And my cats will be getting a lecture. 
Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: sawguy21 on September 02, 2021, 02:49:18 PM
Our cat would watch a mouse run by then when it disappeared behind the chair GAME ON! The DanG dog ignores them even when one got into her food.
Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: KEC on September 02, 2021, 07:46:09 PM
When cleaning out mouse nests, guys, keep in mind that they and their waste and the dust from it is a source of hantavirus and other nasty diseases. I just read in a trapper publication about a guy who got very sick after breathing stuff from a mouse nest which was in a box of spare bolts in his garage. They oftentimes stuff nest material inside the heat shield of mower engines. Doesn't do much for keeping motors from getting hot.
Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: maple flats on September 21, 2021, 05:05:16 PM
I've got to do an update to my post about "fresh Cab" a couple of pages back. It seems I failed to add a new one for a few months, I found a partially chewed roll of paper towels in the cab.  then put a "fresh cab" in the tractor cab, tore off all chewed paper towels, threw them in the trash in the shop and left the rest of the roll in the cab. about 2 weeks later I found no new mouse chew marks, thus it I think worked.
I'll need to pay closer attention to it in the future. I'll also need to order more soon, I only have 2 left.
Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: maple flats on September 21, 2021, 05:11:28 PM
Because I had mice in the tractor cab, I'll add a new packet in about 2 weeks, and again in another 30 days. After that I'll go back to one new every 2 months, I just ordered a dozen more.
Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: doc henderson on September 22, 2021, 12:25:21 AM
I have trapped, killed, but not eaten or skinned, three mice so far this season. :)
Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: widetrackman on September 22, 2021, 07:44:21 AM
When I first got my sawmill I kept it set up at my farm property so that I could 'practice' sawing.  Also during that time I had not learned the value of removing the blade at the end of each sawing day.  :-X

So one morning I went through my normal routine of cranking the engine and tightened the blade.  When I engaged the clutch, bang !!!, blade off and I was immediately met with mangled rat and rat guts everywhere.

I guess some lessons are better learned.  ::)
MM,  being new to saw milling I had not heard about removing the blade at the end of each milling day. 
Therefore what would be the value?
Title: Re: Mice....
Post by: Chuck White on September 22, 2021, 08:53:00 AM
If you leave a blade on overnight, it will rust where it is in contact with the wheels!

It will stretch too, if it's still under tension!