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Re: Whatcha Sawin' 2021 ??
« Reply #660 on: April 28, 2021, 04:02:02 PM »
@Bindian do I remember right , that you attach the pre-made pallets to your pallets ? I know the 2 x 8ís were for an order, but if you air dry wood on that set up do you have an issue of them bowing down in the middle ?

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Re: Whatcha Sawin' 2021 ??
« Reply #661 on: April 28, 2021, 09:53:13 PM »
Brandi - there are two types of sawyers.  Those who try to saw off pieces of their sawmill - and those who deny having tried to do so....  :D
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« Reply #662 on: April 28, 2021, 11:02:53 PM »
@Bindian do I remember right , that you attach the pre-made pallets to your pallets ? I know the 2 x 8ís were for an order, but if you air dry wood on that set up do you have an issue of them bowing down in the middle ?
I noticed the 16 foot pallet bowing a little this morning.   I have not had that problem with the 12 foot pallets. 
After the customer picked up the 2x8s, I added another 40x48 inch pallet under the middle.  He picked up less than half the order today, but paid for half of the total.
Good thing he came and picked up what he did.  The little car carry trailer and the "mini" pickup were groaning when they left with 41 sixteen foot 2x8s and 42 sixteen foot 2x6s.   I told him he may want to get a bigger trailer for the rest, or make two more trips.   His remaining order is 74 twenty foot 2x6s and 32 sixteen foot 2x6s.
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« Reply #663 on: April 28, 2021, 11:08:37 PM »
Brandi - there are two types of sawyers.  Those who try to saw off pieces of their sawmill - and those who deny having tried to do so....  :D
I can neither deny or support any accusation that I was trying to saw off ANY parts made by Woodmizer. say_what
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« Reply #664 on: April 28, 2021, 11:12:19 PM »
Brandi,

  That's real pretty wood. The 20's are going to be a bear to handle I bet.

   I'm sure glad I never nicked a clamp like that. ::) People ask me how come one tooth on my claw turner is shorter than the other and I tell them it just came that way I guess.  :D
Okay Howard.  I just snapped to it after replying to what Southside wrote.
My 2018 LT40HD has the backstops up when the claw comes up.  How in the heck can you hit the claw and not the backstops???????????????????????
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Re: Whatcha Sawin' 2021 ??
« Reply #665 on: April 29, 2021, 12:03:09 AM »
Brandi,

  That's real pretty wood. The 20's are going to be a bear to handle I bet.

   I'm sure glad I never nicked a clamp like that. ::) People ask me how come one tooth on my claw turner is shorter than the other and I tell them it just came that way I guess.  :D
Okay Howard.  I just snapped to it after replying to what Southside wrote.
My 2018 LT40HD has the backstops up when the claw comes up.  How in the heck can you hit the claw and not the backstops???????????????????????
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My claw is missing about 3/4Ē of the first  point on the front side🙈 I was using it to help hold a monster maple crotch in place while I was slabbing it. Then I forgot it was higher than the side supports, but I got reminded 🤓
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Re: Whatcha Sawin' 2021 ??
« Reply #666 on: April 29, 2021, 09:12:50 AM »
Crossroads,

   I have his twin brother. WM must have got a load of defective claws that year and we both got one. :D
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« Reply #667 on: April 29, 2021, 03:17:23 PM »
@Bindian Brandi, It's a John's forklift conversion.  
https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=65543.msg978924#msg978924

97% of their conversions were done using Farmall BN's, but they did do some other tractors.  I just picked up an Allis Chalmers WD45 John's forklift.  
https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=114992.msg1815211#msg1815211

John's forklift are very hard to come by.  They were located just outside Grand Rapids Mi, and most of the converted forklifts have stayed in Mi with the Veggie, apple and cherry farmers.  They rarely give them up.  I got these two for a very good prices $4400 back in 2015, and $4500 three weeks ago respectively.  They are both missing their original ROPS.  I will fab new ones eventually. If you do find one of these, you're more likely to pay $7500-maybe $12,000 in good to excellent condition.  They are super handy with rough terrain capability, tight turn radius, and a 2500 LB lifting capacity, maybe a little more  with some.  It will lift about 98 percent of the logs I've dealt with.  I've had a WO log that was probably just a hair over 3K LBs.  I got it in the barn one end at a time and after about a year, it lost enough water that I could pick it up normally. 
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« Reply #668 on: April 29, 2021, 04:08:12 PM »
I sawed ERC all morning.  I had some really disappointing logs.  Almost every log I sawed had heart rot and hollow centers.  My pile of boards is smaller than the pile of waste, but still not bad since I got the logs free and I've already sold this and the stuff I cut several days ago.  I still have 5 big 20' logs to saw.  I'm hoping that they are better quality. I've never delivered lumber before, but this guy asked If I would deliver, so I'm going to charge him by the hour and for fuel.  He was OK with that and I don't mind being paid to drive.
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« Reply #669 on: April 29, 2021, 07:44:47 PM »
@firefighter ontheside , don't forget to get full payment before any material comes off your truck.  I'm sure you've read the posts here about some of these characters?  Once it's on the persons property, they can tell you to pound sand and leave and you won't have any recourse without engaging an attorney which would cost more than the wood.
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« Reply #670 on: April 29, 2021, 09:11:54 PM »
Thanks Brad.  I was thinking about what exactly I would do.  I was thinking about suggesting that he pay me for the wood before I leave home and then pay me for delivery when I get there.  Maybe as you say, I will just take payment before I take any wood off the trailer.
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« Reply #671 on: April 29, 2021, 09:16:28 PM »
I am thinking about advertising my services as a mobile sawyer, but with my lower throughput on the Logosol F2+ I'm not sure how to charge. With the slower speed on my mill charging by the board foot seems the most logical, but I don't really know where to start. I'm not from the area and don't know any other sawyers. Not trying to make a huge profit, just perhaps pay for my mill with some side work. 
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« Reply #672 on: April 29, 2021, 11:00:28 PM »
A board foot is a board foot, no matter how fast it was made.  With the current price of lumber and the state of things I don't see $0.45 / BF being unreasonable for portable sawing.  The question is does your production rate justify you working for that price?
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« Reply #673 on: April 30, 2021, 07:06:20 AM »
A board foot is a board foot, no matter how fast it was made.  With the current price of lumber and the state of things I don't see $0.45 / BF being unreasonable for portable sawing.  The question is does your production rate justify you working for that price?


Thanks! Logosol estimates the F2+, assuming everything is going well I assume, can mill "Three to four logs per hour" which I find to be a bit of an exaggeration. Maybe 3-4 logs per hour if they are all under 16" DBH. Still, going by the 3-4 logs per hour I should be able to produce 100+ bf per hour, assuming I have logs to do it. Definitely not the kind of profit I would like to see, but $30+/hr isn't too bad after fuel costs. I'm in a few "homesteading" type groups on FB and I see people ask every so often about clearing land. Perhaps I could build a niche market out of being able to get out to remote areas with the mill. 
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Re: Whatcha Sawin' 2021 ??
« Reply #674 on: May 01, 2021, 05:55:39 AM »
Spent a third of the day yesterday sawing 3"-8" ERC poles into live edge 1" and 3/4"
Regular customer, had 1200 bf of other nice ash and tulip. 

Hours for 398 BF log scale of logs having 3 to 27 BF intl log scale each in them.  
That's what he wanted. Good practice with the clamp.  ::)

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« Reply #675 on: May 01, 2021, 04:31:22 PM »
Today's job started with two 15' x 18" white oak logs that the customer wanted quartersawn.

Besides the diameter, the other problem was that they were curved and not just in one dimension.  And not slightly curved either.
Also he wanted full length deck boards which needed to be heartwood only.  
I tried words which only confused both of us.  

Ended up as a stack of mostly 12" boards cant sawn so they stayed pretty flat.
Looking at what the pith was doing in these explained what the words couldnt.  
There would have been not a single full length quartersawn board wider than 3" had we even tried for that.

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« Reply #676 on: May 01, 2021, 08:43:12 PM »
   Did not saw anything today but loaded up a trailer and truck load of assorted wood to take to the flea market to sell and as an advertising trip tomorrow. I think I had 15 benches. I sanded and re-applied tung oil to 3 maple and 2 walnut benches. Added a 2nd metal sledgehammer type wedge to 2 WO benches with loose legs that really seemed to have done the trick on tightening them. I loaded a 4'X2'X1' on 3' legs raised bed planter, 10-12 dozen tomato stakes, birdhouses, some walnut cookies, a Lictenburg RO slab, 5 new log planters, some crates and some square inch pricing trimmed out walnut pieces, etc. I'll talk and pass out cards and maybe sell a few small items - hopefully enough to pay the mileage and lot fee. Mostly such trips results in a mobile sawing job or two. I will also take dozens of photos from around the world and the local area my wife took and printed up.

    While loading up I got a call from a guy wanting 25' long logs sawed into beams I think. I told him look for someone with a mill with an extension but if no luck to call back and I'd try it. I have not used the technique for sawing logs longer than the mill but reviewed it again here in the Knowledge base and would try it if necessary. Sounded like he needed about 15 logs sawed for some timber framing technique. I think he is going to come see me at the flea market tomorrow as it is not far from his home.

   Then a neighbor/customer called and wanted 2 more 6"X6"X10' poplar posts to add to some he bought a while back. I offered to cut them out of a 16' stock log I have today but he was in no hurry so I'll likely go see if I can't get them out of a 16-18 inch log that fell just inside my property line last week. It looked to be hollow at the base so I don't know how far up I have to cut to get to solid wood but I'll see. I'll get them next week from it or another as needed. 
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Re: Whatcha Sawin' 2021 ??
« Reply #677 on: May 01, 2021, 08:54:14 PM »
Hank say's this one smells like money!




The perfect walnut for me to slab on my mill.  31" on the big end, 37" across the crotch which will take minimal trimming.  14' long and fairly straight.  Has just the right amount of defect to make for interesting slabs.

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« Reply #678 on: May 02, 2021, 07:41:14 AM »
 



 
 

After 14 days of unbroken rain we finally saw the sun Friday and today I managed to get the fire going with a couple gallons of diesel.

There were still wisps of smoke coming out from underneath but I was concerned that more rain might be coming and wanted to reduce the volume while I could.

That's the first match I've used since about August last year. One day I'm going to build a big Stirling Cycle engine to run an alternator with and use all that waste heat wisely.
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« Reply #679 on: May 02, 2021, 08:13:22 AM »
Brandi - there are two types of sawyers.  Those who try to saw off pieces of their sawmill - and those who deny having tried to do so....  :D
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