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Title: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on April 28, 2018, 03:12:31 PM
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Trying to upload a pic of my new to me truck
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on April 28, 2018, 03:18:52 PM
My crew waiting on fuel truck. Wife taking her sweet time lol


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Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: mike_belben on April 28, 2018, 03:32:25 PM
That a paystar?
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: OntarioAl on April 28, 2018, 03:48:24 PM
Looks like a Brigadier to me
I had one 6V92 powered
Al
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on April 28, 2018, 03:48:28 PM
Still sitting down on the job ! I even got them a burger this morning.

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Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on April 28, 2018, 03:49:25 PM
It's a Brigadier with a 6V92 in it
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: mike_belben on April 28, 2018, 03:51:48 PM
Got more pics of the log hog?  I just noticed the dual grapples.  Whats on front?
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on April 28, 2018, 03:56:22 PM
It's got a push blade. Fuel hose busted on it. We been running it hard this last week.


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Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: thecfarm on April 28, 2018, 05:50:51 PM
Never seen one of them!!!
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on April 28, 2018, 09:12:06 PM
They was made in the 80's mine is a 4410 Ford. I been wanting a winch for it. It's a good little tractor I need to put it in the shop and put new bushing in the front end and there a few oil leaks fix. Could use some chains on the tires too!


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Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on April 28, 2018, 09:17:12 PM
2 loads of pulpwood and part of a load of saw logs today did I ever say I hate pulpwood!!! But I got to cut it to get to some nice logs!

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Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: KyLogger on April 29, 2018, 07:15:41 AM
Nice set up! That tandem is awesome!
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: lopet on April 29, 2018, 08:26:44 AM
What's that loader ? Serco or Hood with foot swing ?
Congrats 8)
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: mike_belben on April 29, 2018, 10:25:41 AM
Matt if you have the means, a reciever mounted 8000 to 12000 pound chinese truck winch ontop that front blade will bring pine logs in to you sufficiently well and the blade will keep you parked.  



Pull one in, unhook at the blade and reel another.  Then spin around and grapple em.  I dont recommend a truck winch on back.  Youd find yourself skidding with the cable and they just arent meant to take that type of yanking.  There is no brake to hold the drum, so it would be shuddering against the planetary stack.

You could have that setup working for under $500.  I use old arc welding leads for power cable.
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on April 29, 2018, 12:04:54 PM
I think it's a Hood I got the truck and loader for $5,000. Yesterday loaded one of my other truck with it and it self total 35 tons of pulpwood.
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on April 29, 2018, 12:13:42 PM
Mike I been looking for a hydraulic winch. Guy had a 21,000 lbs army winch that would fit between the tongs but sold it before I got home. I'm thinking about selling it anyway. Because I want a small skidder. I put a down payment on a 440 but the guy sold it and gave me my money back. I think I'm going to wait till winter and buy me one. Seem like there a lot more for sale then .
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Skeans1 on April 29, 2018, 01:31:06 PM
How big of a skidder is too large? Would grapple be the ok?
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on April 29, 2018, 01:37:38 PM
One that's under 8.5 feet wide and under 18,000 lbs. I don't want to mess with permit to move it.
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Skeans1 on April 29, 2018, 03:27:45 PM
Isn't a JD 440A larger then that?
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: KyLogger on April 29, 2018, 05:48:00 PM
No way. My 440B was maybe 13,000# and right and fit on out 10 ton trailer without any overhang. It had 18.4-26 tires, and they were loaded, so that added some more weight.
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Skeans1 on April 29, 2018, 06:30:18 PM
Sorry was thinking of our long frame 440c grapple weight.
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on April 29, 2018, 06:31:59 PM
Book said a 440C is 14,500 lbs and 7.8 feet wide. With 18.5 rubber.
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Skeans1 on April 29, 2018, 06:37:36 PM
We did a long frame swap with grapples off a 548 made the machine a 100 times better to run especially with fluid in the tires.
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Maine logger88 on May 01, 2018, 09:03:57 PM
18000 pounds is 540b size mine with wide tires is 9" wide tho
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on May 01, 2018, 10:22:48 PM
Quote from: Maine logger88 on May 01, 2018, 09:03:57 PM
18000 pounds is 540b size mine with wide tires is 9" wide tho

That's the biggest thing is the wide. We supposed to be able to move over size farm equipment with out permit but DOT will give you a ticket then you spend all day in court to get it kicked out. I wish they would make one of those guys pay me for my time when I'm with in the law but they still wright a ticket.
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Skeans1 on May 01, 2018, 10:37:28 PM
How expensive is the permit? I don't remember our permits being all that bad for the 3 county's we work in.
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on May 02, 2018, 09:23:32 PM
Just crap!

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Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: mike_belben on May 03, 2018, 11:20:41 AM
Yeah, those new old trucks always show ya their butts when you first put them in service.  There always a few splinters that fester and come to the surface at once. 
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on May 03, 2018, 12:25:42 PM
I got a call at noon yesterday at noon said I could bring 2 loads in the mill. Busted my butt got it loaded and blow the tire going to the mill. Got unloaded and back home picked up my international and loaded it crossed the scales at 58,000 had 20 tons on it. My GMC can only hold 14 tons. That loader is heavy.
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on May 03, 2018, 12:37:46 PM
Quote from: Skeans1 on May 01, 2018, 10:37:28 PM
How expensive is the permit? I don't remember our permits being all that bad for the 3 county's we work in.

It's not but 20 bucks but my thing is I might move 2 times a day. The permit has to be applied for 24 houses aheaded of time. Like yesterday I got a call at noon that I could bring 2 loads in. I moved my tractor and got those 2 loads. That's why I don't want to mess with that .
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Skeans1 on May 03, 2018, 08:55:59 PM
We get a yearly permit because we move a decent amount about once a month or so depending on job size.
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on May 03, 2018, 11:11:54 PM
Our is per move and they want to know from to what time and everything. Buddy of mine is a big time logger he has a lady that just does that stuff full time. It can get out of hand
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on May 04, 2018, 07:53:23 PM
Number 3 today

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Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: snowstorm on May 04, 2018, 08:21:05 PM
that load reminds me of the big truck crash on 201.this was 25 yrs ago or so. a trailer with wood sticking out the back too far was turning left to go into scott paper. another truck went by him on the right. it is 2 lanes there. the wood went through the windshield. maybe its common in the south to haul like that up here the dot would catch up to you real fast  
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: coxy on May 04, 2018, 09:02:21 PM
little over on your back axle no  :D :D
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Oliver05262 on May 04, 2018, 09:10:18 PM
  I was stationed in Charleston, SC in the sixties. West Virginia Pulp & Paper had a mill in No. Charleston. Used to see a lot of single axle trucks loaded like that headed in there; once in a while somebody would be on the front so they could make a corner.
  Wasn't a great idea then, and certainly not today, but you do what you gotta do.............
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: barbender on May 04, 2018, 09:13:20 PM
We have tree length "pole trailers" up here, and they are dangerous. You have to put a reflective marker on the longest stick, and a light whenever lights are called for (dark and weather).
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Skeans1 on May 04, 2018, 10:02:17 PM
When we did some 150' poles between Oregon and Washington is the Lewis & Clark bridge at the bottom on the Washington side is a light. We had pilot cars blocking all lanes of a 4 lane intersection a van decided she needed through at the time the tail was coming around and blew out all the windows in the van when the two met.
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on May 04, 2018, 10:24:11 PM
Quote from: snowstorm on May 04, 2018, 08:21:05 PM
that load reminds me of the big truck crash on 201.this was 25 yrs ago or so. a trailer with wood sticking out the back too far was turning left to go into scott paper. another truck went by him on the right. it is 2 lanes there. the wood went through the windshield. maybe its common in the south to haul like that up here the dot would catch up to you real fast 

We can go 28 foot pass the back of the truck that is only 20 there. Day light only. At night only 4 foot pass.
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on May 04, 2018, 10:26:10 PM
Quote from: coxy on May 04, 2018, 09:02:21 PM
little over on your back axle no  :D :D

Back roads only DOT don't understand why they only see me unloaded!! I'm pulling about 65k on this load.
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on May 04, 2018, 10:43:12 PM
This is my best friend truck. He has 2 just a like with a 3208 and a 13 speed.


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Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: mike_belben on May 04, 2018, 10:54:20 PM
I see pulp trailers with about that much overhang pretty often.  One flag at the end.
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: barbender on May 04, 2018, 11:41:46 PM
That's gotta get light on the front!
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on May 05, 2018, 01:39:01 AM
Quote from: mike_belben on May 04, 2018, 10:54:20 PM
I see pulp trailers with about that much overhang pretty often.  One flag at the end.


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Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: snowstorm on May 05, 2018, 06:37:34 AM
if you think your getting more on by running it long you are not. cut it 20 ft or so butts ahead the tops butts to the rear. you will have the same load just slightly higher and a lot safer. the crash i was refering to it took the drivers head off 
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Skeans1 on May 05, 2018, 09:12:22 AM
If you alternate what snow storm said butts forward tops forward you'll have an even load that's lower.
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on May 05, 2018, 10:43:31 AM
For chip and saw which what this is it has to be 18 foot long with a min 14" butt and min 6" end. So if you have 32 foot stick you have to keep it one stick or cut it and the end cut will be pulpwood which is 15 bucks less a ton. Even pulpwood has to be at less 12 foot long or they will not take it. My boosters are are 13 foot apart on this truck. 11 on my other one. This truck with the loader on it puts 6,000 on my front axle. Everyone run there trucks like this down here. When you can get 35 a ton for chip and saw or 20 a ton for pulpwood you try to make everything you can chip and saw.

6) The load upon the rear vehicle of a combination of vehicles transporting forest or agricultural products in their natural state shall not project more than twenty-eight (28) feet beyond the rear axle of the vehicle except in the special circumstance hereinafter prescribed. If such products project more than twenty-eight (28) feet beyond the rear axle and, due to the end use for which they are intended (such as tall utility poles or light poles or the like), such products cannot be shortened without rendering them useless for the finished product for which they have been cut, then such special circumstance may be considered good cause for the obtaining of a permit which shall be procured pursuant to Section 63-5-51 before vehicles transporting such products may operate. Except as otherwise provided in Section 63-5-21, any vehicle transporting projecting loads as described in this subsection that extend four (4) feet or more beyond the rear or body of the vehicle shall operate only during daylight hours, and the load on vehicles designed to transport forestry products shall be secured by at least two (2) chains, two (2) wire ropes, or two (2) nylon straps, one (1) positioned behind the front bolster and one (1) in front of the back bolster.
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Skeans1 on May 05, 2018, 12:47:57 PM
I'd be iffy on just two wrappers per load, 4 is required here in Oregon, then Washington it's 3 per load so a long logger has 3 then a short logger will have 6 total. 
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on May 05, 2018, 01:36:07 PM
I have never put more than 2. It's funny how different states has different laws. One reason I like this site so much to see how other guys are logging around the country. Wood is cheap here and everyone has a log truck. This time of year you got to stay on the phone to the mills to take your wood. My wife is friends with the lady's at the scale office and gets me in most of the time.
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Skeans1 on May 05, 2018, 02:39:15 PM
I've only been shut off a mill once on one job because of wood quality all the other times it's been a quota of day 3 loads a day per operator per job. With your moving issue are you close to any ports of entry for the state?
Are there two saw log tonnage sorts available?
Title: Re: Got me a new to me truck
Post by: Matt601 on May 05, 2018, 03:09:28 PM
My problem is I work offshore a month then home a month. The guys that log full time are given the loads first. This years is the worst I seen in a long time. It's been really dry the last month. There a lot of timber around here beening cut too. Which floods the mills close by. Right now when  someone can't get there quote there calling me and I pick up the slack if not they will get cut the next week. I got 3 loads of saw logs stacked and 6 loads of chip and saw a few loads of pulpwood too. What sux is last week the paper mill was open on Saturday then Thursday stop taking.

Buddy of mine cut a lot of pine poles just up the road from the chip plant. He gave me all the tops that is bunched up ready to load. All I have to do it load them and make the 5 mile run to the chip plant. About 10 loads 200 tons $4,000 bucks worth I could get in a day but there not taking it right now. I hope they do end of next week. My buddy just left it because it cost too much to truck it to the other mills and he needs his loader on another site.