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Title: It is reported that Gold miners are leaving Alaska in droves...
Post by: oklalogdog on February 11, 2014, 11:23:50 PM
They are coming to the lower 48 to dig for propane.  Seriously - Propane has gone up over $2.00 a gallon here in Oklahoma in the last month.  It is now at $5.00 per gallon - the last we bought 1 month ago was $2.25 per gallon.  Anybody else had this experience or is this just in good old Oklahoma?
Title: Re: It is reported that Gold miners are leaving Alaska in droves...
Post by: LaneC on February 11, 2014, 11:31:45 PM
I think it is like that everywhwere right now.
Title: Re: It is reported that Gold miners are leaving Alaska in droves...
Post by: Cord-n-8R on February 12, 2014, 12:14:30 AM
I went to buy a little 1 lb cylinder for a propane torch the other day... 6 bucks... no thanks! :-\ I'll find another way!
Title: Re: It is reported that Gold miners are leaving Alaska in droves...
Post by: ND rancher on February 12, 2014, 08:15:38 AM
We had to fill the house after the 1st of Jan. and it was $2.15, last week I checked my barn and found my gauge was not working and had to put some in at $3.99! If I would of known that last month I could of saved a bunch! They say it's starting to fall, so I hope next time we need some it's below $2.00. 
Title: Re: It is reported that Gold miners are leaving Alaska in droves...
Post by: Wellmud on February 12, 2014, 08:31:13 AM
Its been one of the coldest winters here that I can remember and propane has doubled or more just like at holiday time or vacation season gas seams to spike up. Last week my future son in law let the propane tank run out and they charged him $200.00 extra on top of the high propane just to come on a non route day, in my mind thats not much different than just stealing your money.
Title: Re: It is reported that Gold miners are leaving Alaska in droves...
Post by: terry f on February 12, 2014, 02:14:54 PM
   Is it the middle man setting the prices, to gouge the local area?
Title: Re: It is reported that Gold miners are leaving Alaska in droves...
Post by: mesquite buckeye on February 12, 2014, 02:57:52 PM
Good old supply and demand curve.

Shortages lead to high prices and increased supply eventually, surpluses lead to low prices and reduced future supplies.

I think I would be glad you can get any at all with the high consumption levels. All resources are limited in nature, especially fossil fuels. They don't accumulate all that fast in the planet's crust. The take home lesson here is that if you have large price fluctuations and a storable resource, buy a lot when it is cheap and wait until you need it. ;D

Of course next winter could be a mild one. I wouldn't count on that though. The last series of cold years in the late 60's lasted into the 80's.
Title: Re: It is reported that Gold miners are leaving Alaska in droves...
Post by: Windy_Acres on February 12, 2014, 03:05:42 PM
Last year, winter broke late, they planted late, and dried allot of corn fall of 2013 because it was wet. Weve had a significantly cooler than average winter (more demand), and we flat consumed, more than has been been made. The high water mark locally that I know of was $7  last week, 100 gallon max restriction.

Best I know, its supply and demand. The underground reservoirs are basically empty, and they are trucking it up north from Texas as well.

Ive got 2k gallons on hand for the house/shop, Im good till 2016 if I want, with no supplemental heat. There is a reason I keep 4 times that average household in this part of the country... ;)

I buy my gas July or August on contract and buy about 50% more than we consume, so I have a credit in the spring. I paid $1.50 something last year.
Title: Re: It is reported that Gold miners are leaving Alaska in droves...
Post by: rocksnstumps on February 12, 2014, 09:16:27 PM
Just found the slip shoved in the door this afternoon from the autofill option with the local propane dealer. $3.70/gal. When I had filled in early Dec it was $1.89/gal. Paid more for propane use the last two months than I did for all of last year! Course last year I caught the prebuy during the summer at a good time. Missed it this year and gotta pay whatever they want... :(

Looks like they didn't limit the amount tho, filled to 80% as usual (here in NE Wisconsin)
Title: Re: It is reported that Gold miners are leaving Alaska in droves...
Post by: Red Good on February 12, 2014, 09:28:13 PM
My bud that has the propane car , motorcycle , lawn mower  got a big tank just for that reason , buys in the middle of summer and volume . I think just over a 1.25 on 5000 gallons . Bugger . Red