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Started by Walnut Beast, November 21, 2020, 07:53:24 PM

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Walnut Beast

Quote from: firefighter ontheside on March 04, 2021, 05:13:12 PM
Whoa, that sucks.  Clearly Diamond C are no good if they can't handle falling off of a tractor trailer in a wreck.  I'd keep searching for one that would survive that unscathed.
Not good when they fall off but they can pull 😂

 

 

Walnut Beast

 

 A guy posted his first heavy load on his new DC

YellowHammer

I'm surprised at other people's paint issues with PJ trailers.  My paint looks fine, except where it's been rubbed off, scraped, or otherwise hit with loaders or forklifts.  I'm on my third set of tires, it sees almost daily use, and even the manufacturer decal has faded to where I can barely read it, but the paint is fine.  

We don't salt roads here in Alabama, mainly because it rarely snows, so that may be the differentiating factor.  
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Walnut Beast

I think it's probably the nasty salt. That stuff can be hard on everything

Walnut Beast

The dealer informed me and one of the owners of DC that they are bringing in a special crew to build my trailer and the other three this weekend. I was wondering how they where going Slip them in since they are 6 months out on trailers especially the goosenecks. The demand is crazy. I asked about people that where driving all over the country to get a trailer from a dealer that had one in stock. The dealer is getting 30 to 40 calls a day from all over the country and usually has somebody put a deposit down about everyday after they call everywhere on prices 😂. These guys move a lot of trailers and have really really good prices 

Gary_C

On the paint issue, I've found over many years and a number of trailers, if you use the trailers in salted road country, the paint is going to fail. The problem is the paint system most trailer manufacturers use is acid wash and powder coat. The paint companies claim their powder coat paint system is a combination primer/top coat system and that paint will only last a few years in salt country before it is peeling and showing rust thru. Of course any mechanical damage to the paint is going to accelerate rusting from underneath the paint.

I have two truck and trailer refurbishing operations near me and both will tell you the one good paint system requires bead blasting, a very good zinc rich epoxy primer, and a high solids industrial epoxy paint system. They both say to put most of your money in the cleaning and primer system. 

Last week I went to a local large trailer sale lot to look at dump trailers to haul firewood and other lose materials plus a skid steer. My son had bought a Lamar a few years ago (and is already unhappy with the paint showing rust thru under the box) so that was where I started looking. The salesman had me look at a Load Trail because he said the sides were heavier steel and I immediately saw in the seam where the sides sit on the bed of the trailer there was already rust stains showing thru in the seam. When I pointed that out he told me he had another manufacturer, B & B that bead blasted, zinc rich primer and epoxy top coated all their trailers and it showed. But that same dump trailer from B & B was about $1700 more though it was better built in other ways.

So I have no doubt that acid wash/etch with powder coat is a cheaper paint method but if you live where they use salt on the roads, it's going to fail sooner rather than later. Here in MN where they now use that Chloride solution on the roads, nothing will escape the wrath of that chemical for long.

Oh and in the end, I decided against any new trailer because I don't need a trailer very often to move my skid steer and the price was just too much for the convenience of having a skid steer and easy firewood moving capable trailer available.   
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Firewoodjoe

Yeah I think the paint issues in our winter environment would be tuff. In regards to trailer back orders I called a dealer south of here for a pj. Had one left. And said they move 30 trailers a week! I never would have guessed that! 

mike_belben

Goosenecks are in a bubble, just like pickup trucks. 
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PoginyHill

I've heard good things about POR 15 paint systems. Never used it myself, but plan to this spring for a project. Cures with humidity, similar to Gorilla glue.
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Walnut Beast

Pretty cool when the owner of a multi million dollar company say send me a napkin sketch of a special request I had on the deck on the neck and got back to me and said they would make it happen. The first time the dealer went through all the channels it was a no.  (Like they got time to jack around with a special request to fabricate something different than what they offer) I was pleasantly surprised he made it happen when they are many months out especially  on gooseneck trailers and almost all are sold already and a recent plant shutdown for a week during the crazy snowstorm in Texas  

Walnut Beast

Quote from: PoginyHill on March 11, 2021, 07:15:35 AM
I've heard good things about POR 15 paint systems. Never used it myself, but plan to this spring for a project. Cures with humidity, similar to Gorilla glue.
I used that stuff years ago and it seemed to work pretty good. They had a high temp paint for manifolds in bright silver and that stuff looked and worked very nice

YellowHammer

I just looked at the Diamond C website, the trailers look nice.  Locally, there are trailer manufacturers very 60 mile for so here, they build form scratch, and they are generally pretty good.  The two big names locally are Lone Wolf, and PJ.  I've owned several of each, and the PJ is considered the high end, and the dealer sales parking lots full, as fast as he can get them.  

The PJ feels noticeable stiffer and more solid when towing, than any other trailer I've used, so I buy them for their structural quality.  The lower end trailers have a noticeable twist and flex that can be unnerving when heavily loaded.

I had not heard of Diamond C before this topic, We don't have any local dealers, and I don't ever recall seeing them on the road, we see mostly PJ and Big Tex.  However, I will be looking hard at Diamond C, if they are better than PJ, that says something.

 

YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

scsmith42

Quote from: YellowHammer on March 11, 2021, 07:49:12 AM
The PJ feels noticeable stiffer and more solid when towing, than any other trailer I've used, so I buy them for their structural quality.  The lower end trailers have a noticeable twist and flex that can be unnerving when heavily loaded.
I recall that PJ's better gooseneck trailers have a torque tube installed in-between the frame rails that helps to reduce twist on the front of the trailer. 
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Walnut Beast

Here are a couple pictures of the older Diamond C that went with the main name of Fleet neck then now it's the opposite and Fleet neck is still on there but Diamond C is the main name. Also you can see the difference of the patented engineered one piece beam that's exclusive to them

 

 

Walnut Beast

 

 How would you like to have this for a color. HELLO! I know a guy getting ready to pull the trigger on a 40ft,40k air ride same color 

Tacotodd

Definitely easy to readily ID, as long as it is NOT painted by the thief!
Trying harder everyday.

firefighter ontheside

To each his own I guess.  Even if that were my favorite color I wouldn't want it on my trailer.  I'll stick with a black one.
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Walnut Beast

Quote from: firefighter ontheside on March 14, 2021, 09:13:22 AM
To each his own I guess.  Even if that were my favorite color I wouldn't want it on my trailer.  I'll stick with a black one.
Good for you.  They offer 12 different colors and when your spending some big money on a trailer you have choices. It's nice to have a little variety that's why many guys are ordering different colors. Next time you buy a truck whatever your favorite color is you better just get black 😂

Walnut Beast

Like that a big boy black 450 and black DC that he just got and getting ready to pimp out with polished aluminum rims and other goodies

 

firefighter ontheside

My favorite color is red and I had 3 red trucks, but last 2 have not been red.  Maybe someday I'll get another one.  Currently have silver and I'd like to have blue before I make my way back to red.  I almost got black for current truck, but couldn't find one with all the options I wanted.
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Firewoodjoe

Well Ive been kicking around the idea of getting a new gooseneck also. I've read this wealth of knowledge topic and many others on the internet and can't seem to find what I want to know. First off I have a class A, and Michigan goes by tire weight. 700 pounds per inch of rubber. And it has to say on side wall. Tandem duals can haul 32k once you go to 3 or more you go down to 13,000 per axle. So a tri axle dual is 39k and a tri singles is 36k. I want three axles for the added brake power. I've always heard tri axles suck. Get a tandem dual. But with these heavy 17.5s now a days and heavy frames, torque tubes 12,15,16k axles and suspensions wouldn't a tri axle be stable also? Does anyone know of a tri axle with the 6,000 pound 17.5s? 

Nebraska

@Walnut Beast ....I think you should go with red ;).

Walnut Beast

Quote from: Nebraska on March 16, 2021, 09:45:29 PM
@Walnut Beast ....I think you should go with red ;).


 Like that. The guy actually hates red but his family loves red. So he didn't have a choice 😂

Nebraska

Yep. I if I got to pick the color that would be it.

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