i was wondering where i could get some plans to built one
I think you can find plans here on FF, I think it was member Pineywoods that sketched out the basic design of a sideloader. Of course I may be mistaken. You may try looking through his photo gallery.
Those side loaders are really interesting. I never seen one this far North.
i heard they is a place in savannah,tn that builts them i guess put it on your truck i wonder how much that would cost
i know where there is one. a timber tosser. this one is on a 50's ford. looks just like new. why would anyone want one?? they were a good way to get hurt
Quote from: thecfarm on July 30, 2012, 06:27:59 AM
Those side loaders are really interesting. I never seen one this far North.
they were built here in maine
Still never saw one in my area ;D Never even heard of one until I saw it on here.
The side loader is a good option for the small time landowner/logger on a budget or who just doesn't want to fool with the expense of a knuckleboom. There are a few left around here in the southeast. For a "bug spot" or other small job they work really well, of course the norm now is tree length wood here. I still use my side loader truck to haul tops every now an then and to move equipment. I know of one other in my area who uses one. He is a retired timber buyer and moves a fair amount of wood for a bob truck. The side loader is really an antique relic from yesteryear but an an interesting piece of equipment. IMHO they are as safe as the operator.
Saw a "Timber Tosser" at the Cole transportation museum in Bangor, Maine last week.
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Turns out my cousin lives about two feet from the Sprowl's and I stopped in to ask about it when I was up visiting. George sr, the real authority, wasn't there, but jr recalled they tossed the logs pretty high so it took some practice in throttle and linkage control to load and not do any damage. He said they were pretty popular for about 10 years before grapples became common.
Later that night I had a beer with the son of the guy who restored the truck in the exhibit.
There were many around here, I am only about 40 miles from Savannah Tn. They were called the Savannah loader in this area, and while they do look dangerous...I have never heard of anyone getting killed by one.... There is an invitation for you folks to do some research. Banjo
There were quite a few in this area, most of them were shop built, including the winch. There's some posts on here somewhere with drawing showing how to build one. Around here, they were called sidewinders. Tree length logs and knuckleboom loaders pretty well sealed their fate.
funny I remember my dad talking about having one for about a week said it would toss logs over the bunks something about not being able to get the spring presser right or something like that
when i was a kid i watched crobsy load logs on that old ford. he was from appleton. that timber tosser was a scary way to load wood to much rpm and it went over the truck and landed on the ground
Side loaders are the best option for horse logging. Side loaders revolutionized log loading in my region maby years back.
There is an art to it and lots of room for error. Trip bunks are dangerous and most side loaders had trip bunks.
Quote from: CCC4 on August 18, 2015, 06:21:11 AM
Side loaders are the best option for horse logging. Side loaders revolutionized log loading in my region maby years back.
There is an art to it and lots of room for error. Trip bunks are dangerous and most side loaders had trip bunks.
using those loaders are just like felling or snakeing logs with tractor if you live through the learning process they are fine pieces of equipment. i know of at least 3 over the last 20 years or so that were killed while dragging logs with tractor. 2 by widow makers and 1 by dragging a small tree down and it hitting him in the back of the head :( if you are in the timber industry the main thing is know your limitations and respect them !!! :)
sandsawmill14,that is sad to hear. Speed too has alot to do with accidents,deaths too. Seem like last year a fellow got hurt on a tractor by skidding logs. Damage was done to the tractor too!!! Slow down!! My Father skidded out many logs on just a 3pt hitch. Just have to be real careful. Than we brought a 3pt winch. Things can still happen,but it is safer now.
thats for sure cfarm. the same goes for being around sawmills. my granddad got his leg cut off by falling and getting it caught in the belts and run around the pulley on a 100 hp motor but they were able to reattach it and a man about 10 miles from where my mill is fell into a circle saw and lost his arm between elbow and shoulder they wernt able to save his arm but think how close that was to killing him :o i may have heard of more accident than most because of doing electrical repairs at so many mills. im sure everyone knows someone who has been injured/killed its a dangerous way to make a living but its just a way of life for some of us :)
Saw this one yesterday with a nice load of popular.
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The DOT would impound that little chevy up here !!!!! :o :o that load looks to be a bit overboard! ;D I remember years ago i used to see George Sprowl and his wife at a lot of antique truck shows with their custom "B"model mack,nice people. Don
He wouldn't get far here either. :D I have never seen a sidewinder, the mental picture of loading scares the bejabbers out of me. Without hydraulics, how did they return it for the next log?
Quote from: loggah on August 20, 2015, 04:07:21 PM
The DOT would impound that little chevy up here !!!!! :o :o that load looks to be a bit overboard! ;D I remember years ago i used to see George Sprowl and his wife at a lot of antique truck shows with their custom "B"model mack,nice people. Don
that mack has a for sale sign on it if you want it. green with a dump body. he drives a mini yellow pete now
I just dont need another project at the moment !!!!! ;D
Quote from: loggah on August 20, 2015, 04:07:21 PM
The DOT would impound that little chevy up here !!!!! :o :o that load looks to be a bit overboard! ;D I remember years ago i used to see George Sprowl and his wife at a lot of antique truck shows with their custom "B"model mack,nice people. Don
Why in the world would they do that?
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Now don't get riled up...I work in maintenance not enforcement, and I asked permission before I took the picture. Banjo
You can barely get a brand new truck here to pass a DOT inspection!! >:( i know poplar isn't that heavy but that 1 ton truck is "overloaded"!!!!!
Quote from: loggah on August 20, 2015, 04:07:21 PM
The DOT would impound that little chevy up here !!!!! :o :o that load looks to be a bit overboard! ;D I remember years ago i used to see George Sprowl and his wife at a lot of antique truck shows with their custom "B"model mack,nice people. Don
i dont know if george has a web site. he calls it antique express. in the spring he has an old car truck get to gather. we are in the same town
I looked thru my old truck meet pictures ,in 1988 he had a little red "B" model mack pickup ,it was a super conversion job.
The green one he is selling now looks like it got a little too close to something... I was just up at my cousin's who lives in the shadow of the old Sprowl facility and is jr's neighbor.
Quote from: shinnlinger on August 21, 2015, 11:25:31 PM
The green one he is selling now looks like it got a little too close to something... I was just up at my cousin's who lives in the shadow of the old Sprowl facility and is jr's neighbor.
my garage is a half mile from georges. who is your cousin? jr ran the truss shop into the ground
Those thar rear springs look pretty straight on the one ton. We dont' see that kinda low rider around here unless you head to West Springfield.
Someone asked how you let the loader arms back down, the PTO is actuated by a master cylinder type setup, you just put it back in neutral and the arms drop.
If you think that is scarey...when I was logging with a broken arm I ran a boom winch powered by a 2ton rearend with a boom mast frame from a 2 ton...it would skid so fast it could turn the truck over, loading with it was nuts and ya better be on your A game. I used the setup till I got my cast off then sold the truck...too many OMG situations and close calls with the butt ends and my chest and face! :)