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Title: A whatzit?
Post by: farmerdoug on December 13, 2008, 10:49:16 PM
Here is something I found in two boxes in the trailer.  Anybody care to guess what it is and what it is used for?

Here is one with handles.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12213/100_0836.jpg)


A look inside.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12213/100_0837.jpg)


Here is more in the box.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/12213/100_0838.jpg)
Title: Re: A whatzit?
Post by: DanG on December 13, 2008, 10:58:25 PM
Molds, for..well, er...molding things. ???
Title: Re: A whatzit?
Post by: farmerdoug on December 13, 2008, 11:00:18 PM
Dang,  you are half way there. ;D

I suspect a lineman will know their use.
Title: Re: A whatzit?
Post by: farmerdoug on December 13, 2008, 11:01:43 PM
Since DanG is halfway there, we need what they are used for and how?
Title: Re: A whatzit?
Post by: DanG on December 13, 2008, 11:09:31 PM
Since I got it half right, does that mean I get half of the Knaack boxes? 8)
Title: Re: A whatzit?
Post by: LeeB on December 14, 2008, 12:06:23 AM
Is it a crimper?
Title: Re: A whatzit?
Post by: SwampDonkey on December 14, 2008, 07:30:05 AM
Well I don't know what they were used for, but I'll guess they were used in Spokane. Just so we get that out of the way, anyway. :D
Title: Re: A whatzit?
Post by: timberfaller390 on December 14, 2008, 07:59:10 AM
we njeed a better view of the first pic
Title: Re: A whatzit?
Post by: thecfarm on December 14, 2008, 08:12:32 AM
I'll keep this going,insulators?
Title: Re: A whatzit?
Post by: Dana on December 14, 2008, 08:30:55 AM
Is it used to splice the power lines together?
Title: Re: A whatzit?
Post by: farmerdoug on December 14, 2008, 08:41:09 AM
A good guess Dana, among other things.  Now how do they do it?
Title: Re: A whatzit?
Post by: Chuck White on December 14, 2008, 08:48:13 AM

What about using it to apply lead sheathing to underground cables!
Title: Re: A whatzit?
Post by: scsmith42 on December 14, 2008, 10:38:59 AM
That, my friend, looks like a mold used for exothermic welding.  The most common brand name is "Cadweld".

Typically it is used for making a permanent attachment of a ground wire to a ground rod.  They are also used to weld ground wires together, to attach ground wires to steel members, etc.

There is no chance of oxidation developing in the completed joint (which can cause interferance to radio equipment at a cell site / repeater site), and the welded connections are very strong.

The ground rod and wire are inserted in the mold, and then a mixture is poured into the mold and ignited.  The mix usually contains something like gunpowder and metal shavings, and it melts around the components, welding them together.

Scott
Title: Re: A whatzit?
Post by: farmerdoug on December 14, 2008, 10:49:51 AM
We have a winner.  8) 8)

Now what am I doing to do with them. ::) ;D ;D

Anybody need exothermic welding molds in various sizes?
Title: Re: A whatzit?
Post by: Gary_C on December 14, 2008, 10:52:39 AM
Quote from: farmerdoug on December 14, 2008, 10:49:51 AM
Anybody need exothermic welding molds in various sizes?

Ya, Scott needs them. He's the only one that knows how to use them.  8) 8)
Title: Re: A whatzit?
Post by: Tom on December 14, 2008, 10:55:04 AM
They might make a mold for a fishing sinker too. :-\
Title: Re: A whatzit?
Post by: Warbird on December 14, 2008, 12:05:14 PM
Quote from: Tom on December 14, 2008, 10:55:04 AM
They might make a mold for a fishing sinker too. :-\

I was thinking they looked like good boat anchors.  ;D
Title: Re: A whatzit?
Post by: scsmith42 on December 14, 2008, 04:31:15 PM
I think that this is the first "Whatsit" that I've won!  I kinda feel like Steve Martin did when he found his name in the phone book.... :D

Doug, as I recall the molds are good for a certain number of charges, and then they've worn to the point where the powder blows out when you light them off, and thus are discarded. 

If yours are unused (or in very good condition), you can probably sell them on e-bay.  Depending upon which molds you have, the price could be anywhere between $15 - 100.00 each.

Scott
Title: Re: A whatzit?
Post by: farmerdoug on December 14, 2008, 04:37:01 PM
They are in various conditions.  Also have four boxes of charges for them too.

Thermite anyone? ;D
Title: Re: A whatzit?
Post by: dolittle on December 14, 2008, 08:54:32 PM
Great explanation guys.  As an ex-electrical contractor I know of this method but have used it nor have I ever seen the equipment to make the weld. 
Title: Re: A whatzit?
Post by: sawman on December 16, 2008, 08:24:04 AM
  When everything works right it does make a heck of a connection.
They are used for grounding connections. We use them alot on grounding to structure
steel.
Title: Re: A whatzit?
Post by: Don K on December 17, 2008, 03:52:47 AM
Just saw this. I knew exactly what they were the moment I saw the pics. I used them alot in the 80's when I worked electrical construction. They will make you check your pants when they get worn and the charge and melted copper blow out from the sides. :o

Don