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Title: Shop is coming along
Post by: Crossroads on October 24, 2018, 10:11:44 AM
Ten days ago I started framing the shop, it actually went pretty fast. It was a big help and time saver that I was able to frame and sheet the walls on the ground and have a self loader log truck come in and stand them up. Yesterday some guys from church came over to help set the trusses and that was huge. First the truck was late, then he could only make it about half way in my driveway pulling the trailer with the trusses. So, we ended up swinging the trusses off his trailer into my dump truck to get them to the work site. Then he brought the truck/crane in an flew the trusses up one at a time while we set them. I've been worried that I wasn't going to get the roof on before the snow comes and also that I wouldn't be able to get the roof on so I could leave to go elk hunting next weekend, but with the help I've received and the times I've needed it most, it's starting to look like I might get to go....


https://youtu.be/ZBvdB9sSL04 (https://youtu.be/ZBvdB9sSL04)
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: Skipper11A on October 26, 2018, 08:54:31 PM
Nice video.  Don't you have any level ground in Idaho?
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: Crossroads on October 26, 2018, 11:12:43 PM
Quote from: Skipper11A on October 26, 2018, 08:54:31 PM
Nice video.  Don't you have any level ground in Idaho?
Lol, the only flat places on my place are man made and there isn't enough yet. This spring I'll rent a backhoe or a cat and get serious about making a place to set up my mill and have logs delivered. 
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: Ianab on October 27, 2018, 12:57:28 AM
Reminds me of my old place. 330 acres, with maybe 10 that you could cut hay on, and that wasn't flat, just level enough that you could make hay.  :D
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: bandmiller2 on October 27, 2018, 07:23:28 AM
Anyone building a shop would be wise to insulate it well, not only for heat but to prevent condensation and rust on machinery with changing temperatures. Frank C.
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: Crossroads on October 28, 2018, 09:37:00 PM
Yeah, it will probably end up insulated eventually, but for now my I'll just be happy to get the roof finished this week. 
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: Crossroads on October 31, 2018, 10:13:18 AM
Been pretty busy the last few days trying to get this thing dried in. 

https://youtu.be/w_ikNcirLNc (https://youtu.be/w_ikNcirLNc)
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: Crossroads on October 31, 2018, 10:16:23 AM
Yesterday I got some steel on the roof, but I couldn't quite beat the rain. It's raining pretty good this morning and I don't think I can get any more done today safely. 

https://youtu.be/gZyLGA1ItKg (https://youtu.be/gZyLGA1ItKg)
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: crowhill on October 31, 2018, 02:51:47 PM
It's looking good! Coming together really nice.
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: Crossroads on October 31, 2018, 10:27:18 PM
Thank you, it rained most of the day today, so I hauled some rock and then went hunting this evening.
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: KirkD on November 02, 2018, 10:53:36 AM
Looks like you could use a set of scaffolding.
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: charles mann on November 04, 2018, 06:05:08 PM
Looking good. 
Its nice to have people that can come help. I just dried my "shop" in last weekend. I took 2 20' containers and set them 16' apart, hung 2 34' x 6" i-beams and welded in the perlins. I finally got the R-panels on just before the weather hit. Wasnt expecting high winds, but glad they came. I forgot to screw down some of the roofing, so in 20 mph wind and heavy rain, i figured screwing them down was better than letting the wind tear up my many days of labor. 
I was going to post my own thread, along with my mill build. But my wife decided to wash my phone last night and i hadnt backed it up in a bit over 2 wks. Lost a good bit of the building stage of my shop. 
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: jwade on November 04, 2018, 07:03:00 PM
charles man, i would really like to have seen the pictures of your build. i was thinking of something similar.
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: Skipper11A on November 04, 2018, 07:45:18 PM
Looking good Crossroads!  In Texas we usually only frame roofs for houses like that, but with your snow load I'm sure that your local building practices are quite different than ours.
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: PAmizerman on November 04, 2018, 08:17:06 PM
 smiley_clapping
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: charles mann on November 04, 2018, 11:23:28 PM
Quote from: jwade on November 04, 2018, 07:03:00 PM
charles man, i would really like to have seen the pictures of your build. i was thinking of something similar.
I just landed in portland oregon, so it'll be a couple weeks before im back in texas. Ill get some of the finished product for ya. 
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: Crossroads on November 08, 2018, 12:17:53 PM
Quote from: charles mann on November 04, 2018, 06:05:08 PM
Looking good.
Its nice to have people that can come help. I just dried my "shop" in last weekend. I took 2 20' containers and set them 16' apart, hung 2 34' x 6" i-beams and welded in the perlins. I finally got the R-panels on just before the weather hit. Wasnt expecting high winds, but glad they came. I forgot to screw down some of the roofing, so in 20 mph wind and heavy rain, i figured screwing them down was better than letting the wind tear up my many days of labor.
I was going to post my own thread, along with my mill build. But my wife decided to wash my phone last night and i hadnt backed it up in a bit over 2 wks. Lost a good bit of the building stage of my shop.
When you can, it would be nice to see some pictures of your project, it sounds interesting. 
I have some temporary scaffolding made and set up on one side, but right now, it's not really helpful. Once I start siding, it's probably going to get a lot more use though. 
The project kinda stalled last week, after going over a month without taking a day off, I decided to take advantage of that last Oregon resident elk I had in my pocket and go hunting. I threw a folding bed, a 2 burner propane cook stove and a small wood stove in my enclosed utility trailer. Then after a 7 hour drive I cut a hole in the roof and set up the wood stove 👍🏻. I only got to hunt 3 days and it was tough hunting (utv's have invaded a big roadless area) and I didn't see an elk, but enjoyed some time alone and some time with my hunting partner. Now it time to get back to work. 
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: charles mann on November 08, 2018, 05:10:09 PM
Quote from: Crossroads on November 08, 2018, 12:17:53 PM
Quote from: charles mann on November 04, 2018, 06:05:08 PM
Looking good.
Its nice to have people that can come help. I just dried my "shop" in last weekend. I took 2 20' containers and set them 16' apart, hung 2 34' x 6" i-beams and welded in the perlins. I finally got the R-panels on just before the weather hit. Wasnt expecting high winds, but glad they came. I forgot to screw down some of the roofing, so in 20 mph wind and heavy rain, i figured screwing them down was better than letting the wind tear up my many days of labor.
I was going to post my own thread, along with my mill build. But my wife decided to wash my phone last night and i hadnt backed it up in a bit over 2 wks. Lost a good bit of the building stage of my shop.
When you can, it would be nice to see some pictures of your project, it sounds interesting.
I have some temporary scaffolding made and set up on one side, but right now, it's not really helpful. Once I start siding, it's probably going to get a lot more use though.
The project kinda stalled last week, after going over a month without taking a day off, I decided to take advantage of that last Oregon resident elk I had in my pocket and go hunting. I threw a folding bed, a 2 burner propane cook stove and a small wood stove in my enclosed utility trailer. Then after a 7 hour drive I cut a hole in the roof and set up the wood stove 👍🏻. I only got to hunt 3 days and it was tough hunting (utv's have invaded a big roadless area) and I didn't see an elk, but enjoyed some time alone and some time with my hunting partner. Now it time to get back to work.
It'll be a bit. Just got called up for a new fire in the state of jefferson, just north of california. 
It'll be either 1 more, or if possible, 2 more wks before i'll be back hm. But i WILL get yaw pics. 
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: Crossroads on November 09, 2018, 10:51:40 PM
Things warmed up a bit this afternoon and I decided to take advantage of it. Got my harness rigged, screw gun and screws and the trim for the gable end. That piece went so well, I left my screw gun on top and went to get more trim. About the time I got safely to the ground, it started snowing. So, I thought "well, if I have to go get the gun, I might as well put one more section of trim on"   I got up the ladder and pushed the trim up on the roof ahead of me. By this time there's already a 1/2" of snow on the roof. So, I left the trim and went in a rescue mission for the screw gun. Straight to the top, shimmy the full length of the shop, grab the gun, carefully turn around and head back to my bail off rope. That's when my dear wife comes out and hollers up at me "do you want me to bring you a coat"? I told her thank you, but the only thing I need is to get down without dying. Sure glad I took all those high angle rescue classes over the last 20 years. This self rescue went off without a hitch 👍🏻

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Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: Runningalucas on November 09, 2018, 11:43:07 PM
Looking good, I was up in Sandpoint this evening, then back to Spokane.  Looks like the entire area got about 2, or so inches of snow fall. 

Getting it done before the mess is such a good feeling! lol
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: Crossroads on November 10, 2018, 09:24:15 AM
Yes it is, if I can just get the finishing touches done and a wood stove set up, I think we'll be pretty cozy
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: charles mann on November 21, 2018, 11:51:17 AM
here are some pics of my conex shop build. nothing fancy, just roof over my head and a place to store my tools. Luckily, the horizontal hole in a conex can't be seen clearly. I thought i had room, but didn't, and my tractor bucket decided to open an vent hole.

@Crossroads  (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=25833)


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Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: Crossroads on December 03, 2018, 11:40:12 AM
Thanks for sharing your project pictures! 

We have the shop all closed in (tarp for a garage door) and hooked up the waste oil stove, but it's not putting out as much heat as I remember. However, I am trying to heat a larger area in colder outside temps. Not to mention, it's just sheeted and not sided or insulated yet. 
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: charles mann on December 03, 2018, 12:35:26 PM
Iv got a big masters DF/Kerosene forced air heater for warmth. But it yet has gotten cold enough to use it. The past couple yrs, late dec, early jan, we have gotten temps in the 20s and last year, my spare bathroom plumbing froze and busted. Im not going through that this year. i will plumb in the air heater to keep my plumbing warm.
I will be doing the smilar as you, putting up a cavas tarp, but i first need to close up the gap between the perlins and conex and wall in the back.
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: Crossroads on December 03, 2018, 11:09:04 PM
Here is where we're at, the actual door is 18'6"x14'8" with essentially the only self milled wood being the 4x12 header. On the right is a temporary 8' wide wall and on the left is a temporary 6' header spanning the other 10'6". Trying to make it as weather tight as I can and still be able to move the tractor in and out. 


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I fired up the oil burner again today and had it cranking out more heat, then the needle valve got partially plugged and slowed the flow down. Now I need to come up with a filter system to keep the valve clear...
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: 123maxbars on December 07, 2018, 09:17:33 PM
great progress, 
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: Crossroads on December 07, 2018, 10:36:42 PM
Quote from: 123maxbars on December 07, 2018, 09:17:33 PM
great progress,
Thank you, the ground is frozen and hard, so I'm going to try to drag some logs to the mill in the next few days and mill some siding....
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: WLC on December 08, 2018, 03:34:13 AM
I may have missed it, but what are your shop dimensions? I like the look of that.
Title: Re: Shop is coming along
Post by: Crossroads on December 08, 2018, 12:01:22 PM
It's 24x40 with 16' walls. We needed the high walls to get the 5th wheel in. It also gives us the option to put in a loft. 

I had the oil stove glowing red about 1/2 way up and couldn't seem to get the temp in the shop over 32°. So, I don't think my tarp for a garage door is going to cut it. Also, as much as I am not a fan of these new house wraps, I don't want to be trying to hang tar paper from a ladder working by myself. I ordered some 9'x100' rolls of home guard with hopes that I can hang it by myself. Then I can start throwing up board and bat siding.