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Western red alder
« on: July 09, 2012, 11:57:05 AM »
Some 10' logs spalt not quite all the way to center yet. 

  

 
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Re: Western red alder
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2012, 12:09:00 PM »
That's some purty wood. I just finished looking at some Alder cabinetry and trim on another forum. It was gorgeous.
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Re: Western red alder
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2012, 04:39:00 PM »
It is too bad Alder gets such a bad wrap,  I like the look of it, and there is lots of it around.

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Re: Western red alder
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2012, 09:25:18 PM »
What is the plan for it?
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Re: Western red alder
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2012, 12:18:19 AM »
There's another Forum?  ;)
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Re: Western red alder
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2012, 01:43:33 AM »
works good fer cabnet work but us OLD people veiw  spalded as rotten
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Re: Western red alder
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2012, 09:02:38 PM »
Alder is pretty much a four letter word up here in the northeast,grows up in your hayfield overnight.Hope your is a different variety then the DanG clumps we have. Frank C.
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Re: Western red alder
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2012, 09:05:50 PM »
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Right, a completely different beast in the east. :)

Until 20 yrs or so ago, the red alder was also considered pretty much a weed tree. But then some of its good traits surfaced and it has found its niche in the West. A bit similar to soft maple.
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Re: Western red alder
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2012, 09:07:14 PM »
Probably Hazel Alder, Alnus serrulata.
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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2012, 09:10:06 PM »
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Re: Western red alder
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2012, 09:18:48 PM »
I started to talk about the woody, cone-like catkin, but decided that I had better not  :).
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Re: Western red alder
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2012, 12:10:09 PM »
Fender guitars have used Alder for their guitar bodies for years.  Since they are in California, I suppose it is the western variety.  Most all of them get painted after grainfill...
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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2012, 07:28:20 PM »
Alder used to be dirt cheap until cabinetmakers discovered it. It's still inexpensive compared to other native hardwoods but it certainly has a growing fan club.

I know a professional furniture maker who uses Alder for most everything and he sells $20k pieces to West Coast clients. Alder works easily, takes stain well and can be made to resemble other woods.

I rarely stain anything but for pros working on a slim profit-margin, using a wood like Alder might mean the difference between surviving and going under.
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Re: Western red alder
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2012, 08:51:01 PM »
I have heard the alder is about the best wood when you want to stain a lower value wood to look like cherry, but I have never done it.
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2012, 09:37:04 PM »
That's some gorgeous wood.  Alder has become quite popular for cabinets around these parts.

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« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2012, 09:54:33 PM »
That's some gorgeous wood.  Alder has become quite popular for cabinets around these parts.

Hey redbeard,

Is it always foggy around your mill or is that just the camera? ;D

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Re: Western red alder
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2012, 02:07:51 AM »
I think my camera on phone is scratched up on lens I noticed that lately. It is foggy in the AM. Were finally starting are summer been nice and warm lately. Probably cold too you guys though! :D  the table has spalted holly,maple and alder in it. The stairs are madrone spalt. And the stool is madrone and hickory. These are customer projects just showing some more spalted wood from my milling.

  

  

  

 
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Re: Western red alder
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2012, 11:54:35 PM »
Those are some exceptional pieces of work. I grew up in Longview, WA. Alder was some of the best firewood. Considered a weed to us, until I moved to the midwest and the carpenters were trimming out multi- million dollar homes with it. Found it odd. One man's trash is another man's treasure.

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« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2012, 07:33:04 AM »
Welcome to the Forestry Forum, knothead1.  I too have been called a knothead at times.

How about an intro and telling about your forestry/sawing interest.
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« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2012, 12:32:38 AM »
My wife and I purchased 80 acres in west central MN 1 1/2 yrs ago. Thought it would be a good piece of property to raise our kids. The land is 55 acres of woods. Balance is open, some tillable, some pasture, small portion is low ground. Most of what we have is hardwood. A lot of mature white oak, Some black ash, a few poplar trees, and a good handful of sugar maple that we hope to start tapping in the spring.

I've been interested in purchasing a sawmill and milling lumber to timber frame a house. It will be a few years before I build the house. Thought about starting with a small project. An outdoor sauna has been on my mind for awhile. A friend of mine turned me on to this forum and I have to say that it is the most interesting site I have looked at in a long time. High quality and tons of good expertise and advice.


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