I was dooing some cleanup around the mill this morning, finished off sawing up some cherry and a few other things. This guy wonders in and wants some slabs for firewood. Tells me how he and his wife just moved out here,are down on their luck, out of fuel almost out of wood. I pointed him in the right direction and said help yourself. Well he puts some on the truck all skinny ones. He comes over to me and asks if I could saw them in half for him since he doesn't have a way to split the stuff thats too wide. I tell him, you help me with the sawing of them and clean up the small stuff around the slabpile. (its not that big maybe 1/4 pickup load) He can have it all.
He loooked at me like I was on drugs!! ::) He actually asked if I thought he was slave labor. I pretty much pointed to the road and said see ya later pal.I figure your cold and out of fuel you should burn whatever you can get your hands on. Guess he would rather be cold than do a little work.
Terrible the way some people think.Guess he thought you was with the walfare people.I sit on my ass and draw a check each month.I have it made.I don't have to work at all.He got a woke up call from you. You was trying to help him,he just couldn't see it.
I think that guy is about a quart low :D :D :D :D
When Buzz is cold or hungry he gets stuff to be warm and full.......I guess that dude aint learned that? :o
I'de keep my eye on the mill and the woodpile for awhile. ::)
Well a little update, About 10 minutes after I went back outside after lunch he comes back, well actually his wife showed up with him in tow. :D And she wasn't happy with him. He apologized for his rude behavior and wanted to know if there was someway we could work things out. I told him sure same deal as before. He asked me what time to be here in the morning since his wife had to go to work, I told him 8 would be just fine.
Went out on a limb, well not that I'm out much and had him load up some stuff I had cut for heating the shop. While he was loading it his wife filled me in a bit. Apparently Daddy has money. ::) Daddy forbid him to marry this young lady who was pregnant with his baby. well he married her anyway and Daddy cut him off and fired him to boot. Wasn't a very good life lesson, he does the right thing and Daddy punishes him.
I guess I'll see what happens tomorrow.
Sounds like the dad needs a trip to the woodshed himself....
at least he did the right thing with the lady...
Quoteshe wasn't happy with him. He apologized for his rude behavior and wanted to know if there was someway we could work things out.
Perhaps just maybe dad wants him to learn to stand on his own two feet. From the first story sounds like he needs to. Maybe there's more there than just the girl. Maybe not. Lots of stories get twisted when you only hear one side.
Apologizing is at least a step in the right direction. If they's anyhing to him he'll be there tomorrow, on time and ready to go.
well now it would seam that between the wife and you that boy just might get lessons in
respect and in how to work to provide what is needed for his family.
if he shows up in the morning make sure and have him a pr of gloves he might need um :D
If we as inderviduals help our fellow man. In return we will reap far greater rewards from our
maker in the end.
Quartlow,
It sounds to me that between your guidance and his wife's common sense,there might be hope for him.
QuoteThe kid was a mess. His name was Jay. His father was over quality control for three different factories, same company. Jay was really really smart, big tall guy. Straight A type guy, first year of college. Never worked manually a day in his life, but supposed to be going places. As many others he made a mistake. He fell in love, got his girlfriend pregnant, got married, dropped out of school. Both familys were mad, no one would help. He had to support the wife and kid so as a last, or lost resort he applied for a job in one of the factories. His dad saw to it that he got oee of the worst jobs available. Doing manual labor building furniture on a production line, the worst line in all of the plants.
You gotta go here to read the whole story. Starts with Reply #474 on the page I'm sending you to. Once it starts skip through the blather and it'll pick back up a couple of times. Some kids you can't help. Most kids you can't help. But somethimes, once in a blue moon, maybe.......
https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=4976.460
cktate,you should be a writer.You sure did help Jay out.I hope he thinks of you.You did a great thing helping him out like that.
Well make sure you give us an update Quartlow on how the fella did.
Like's been said before I bet he does some good work when he comes back.
Quote from: Paul_H on March 09, 2005, 04:33:27 PM
Quartlow,
It sounds to me that between your guidance and his wife's common sense,there might be hope for him.
My guidence? lord help us all because that young man is in trouble!! :D :D :D
CK
your an inspiration man
Now as for the update, he actually showed up :o and on time.
First thing right off we got a fire going in the woodshop had some coffee and talked a bit and it's no wonder his dad is so fired up. Seems he met Nancy 4 years ago, in a strip club during his 21st birthday party his buddies threw for him. Well Jon was instantly infatuated with this young lady. Took him almost a year to wrangle a date with her. Took him another month to get her to go out a second time. and another month for a third date. If nothing else he is persistant. After the third date they started dating regular. At this point mom and dad hand't met her yet.
He explained to her that if they knew where she worked they would be ballistic. So Nancy quit her job and went to work as a waitress at a local truckstop. Things where looking up, took her home to meet the parents and things didn't go all that well. His dad figured she was trash from the gitgo just because she was a waitress. He figured his son's infatuation would wear off and it would blow over.
Well it didn't and they decided to get married a little over a year ago. well that went over like a lead balloon. So Dad being the nosy man that he is gets the local police chief to run a background check on her and thats when things really went downhill. About this time is when Nancy got pregnant. Well he kept that tidbit of information from his parents and got her a nicer apartment and started taking serious care of her. Paid all her medical bills made sure she went to the DR the whole nine yards.
They got married a week before the baby was born and daddy fired him the next day. He's been doing some work through a temp agenecy and staying home a caring for the baby. They moved out here a couple weeks ago since a small house in the country was cheaper than the apartment. And here he is on my doorstep.
now for his abilaties, he doesn't know anything. He bought a used echo 500 chainsaw, the chains so wore out I figure its dangerous to use. ther bar is whipped and is has to be the hardest starting thing i've ever seen. I put my old 16 inch bar on it and and a new chain. Cleaned it up put a plug in it fresh gas and now its running a whole lot better.
We cleaned up around the mill got the buzz saw out and cut up some slabs. then came up for lunch. man eats like its been a week.
Well its time to get back to it. more later.
You can't help who you love, it seems that he is a least trying to get things together and may not be a bad sort.
His stuck up father is the one who needs to get counselling to get a life and be pleased that the kid has at least found love.
Ernie
Quartlow,
You're a good man Chrlie Brown.
Tell that fella not to give up the faith. I am hoping things work out for the better for him, his wife and child. If nothing else, they got each other and that's all they really need.
Mark
An intersting tale, he is lucky to meet up with a guy like quartlow....he has a buzz saw 8) 8)
You're doing good, quartlow. These youngsters need all the help they can get. We've got a screwed up world.
I know you will, but, keep in mind that there are a lot of "manipulators" in this younger generation. We all had them but this generation seems to be breeding a lot more than I've ever seen. You can get sucked into bad situation before you know it. When one begins to tell me his hard luck story and 'nothing' is his fault and He is the most genuine person one has ever met, then I step back about 3 steps and take a good hard look at what's going on.
Meaning well, a fellow can get involved in things that hurt his own family life.
I'm sure proud of you for giving him a chance to see the "other side" and stand on his own two feet.
Yep, gotta agree with everyone. Helping someone that TRIES to help himself, is all you can do. He might make someone a good hand. Just because he doesn't "Know" anything, doesn't make him bad. Sounds like "Dad" needs some parenting classes. HE's the one that doesn't "know" anything, in my book. Good onya, Quartlow. 8) 8) 8) ;D
I gotta put my 2 cents worth. Having had experience with a nephew who believed the world, not to mention his family, "OWED HIM", we spent about 4 years trying to help him. Finaly the only option left was "tough love" We all let him know that he was on his own and if he started to help himself, we would pitch back in. He still doesn't get it.
Quartlow, It sounds like your guy was ready(or at least his wife convinced him he was). Either way, he was ready and you did the right thing. He may not know it yet, but he is a better man now that he met you. Maybe it's time for his father to meet you.
GOOD JOB!
I'll reserve my judgement , court adjourned for recess. ;)
Quartlow
You have been doin good. Sometimes a youngster just needs a wakeup call which he certainly has had to set him right. His Dad ought to be big enough to look past the wifes previous life and see her for who she is now. A lot of fine folks have had some awful past lifestyles and turned themselves around. Judge not lest ye be judged!
Well we will see what happens to him, I did try to send him home shortley after lunch since his truck was loaded up but he stuck around and even helped out in the shop some cleaning up. For a young man thats been handed things most of his life he didn't slack off any today. He made me hustle enough i'm tired :D
He sure isn't afraid to try anything I will give him that much. Oh though he did look at me like I was nuts when I fired up the buzz saw. I kind of get the impression that his Dad never taught him anything.
Maybe he was having a bad day yesterday, heck we all have those. I'm going to ride over htere this evening. I know the house he rented and it ain't no jewel. I also know the guy who owns it and he's not known for fixing things. If it needs anything I'll get on Harrys case to fix it up a bit. He can afford it.
Of course since the rents cheap it's had a series of lowlifes living in over the years and Harry has let it get rundown some.
Well Quartlow,
thanks for the update, and good on ya mate, for helpin out ya fellow man.
I had a thought this guy would be on time and work like dog, it seems as though he needed a little bit of boundaries shown to him and also a bit of kindness. His old man just sounds like he needs to be taken out the back and given some perspective, 4x2 style.
The young folkes of today seem to be more and more difficult to get some honest to goodness work done. Done under I feel we should have national service to give the youngsters a sense of duty, honour, self respect and understanding toward others.
Sorry to go on a bit - just my thoughts.
Keep updating us Quartlow.
This young fella sounds like he's got potential but his father is a lost cause. I doubt you could beat any sense into someone like that ::)
Great response, Sigidi. Couldn't agree more. Ya done real good, Quartlow. Proud of ya. 8) 8) 8) ;) ;)
QuoteHe made me hustle enough i'm tired
:)
Well I guess tomorrow I go get old Harry buy his bald head and ring his neck, ain't no way in heck that wood burner is safe. on a brighter note the furnace wasn't out of fuel, DanG theres got to be 200 gallons in the tank. Jon said that when it wouldn't light he just guessed it was out of fuel. Turns out the igniter's where dirty and out of wack, took me all of 15 minutes to get it running. 8)
Sure made Jon happy.
Being the nosy fart that I am while he was upstairs with the baby I checked his fridge and cupboards. There was a pretty good supply on hand and I didn't spot no booze, from what I saw they have pretty decent furniture and the place was clean.
Now tomorrow I get old Harry and twist his arm a bit. place needs some serious fixing up. Fridge is old and makes an awful racket. 2 cupboard doors are missing. the front door won't open. carpet is flat wore out and the place needs a fresh coat of paint and some holes in the walls fixed. Old Harry owes me a few favors anyway, time to collect. ;D ;D
After the little time I spent there this evening I really think he was just having a bad day yesterday. He's apologized 3 or 4 times for how he acted. I kind of think he has been trying but just hasn't caught the right breaks.
As for his Dad, well it's his loss because his granddaughter is just the cutest sweetest little thing ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: cktate on March 10, 2005, 07:49:30 PM
QuoteHe made me hustle enough I'm tired
:)
CK, he probably would have made you tired to!! :D :D :D
Quartlow
Sounds like you've been appointed as guardian angel.
It's a great job to have.
Ernie
Quartlow,
I said it once, but I just can't help my self.
Hoo!!! YAH !!!! Good job
Mark
yip i've got to echo the replys YOUR ON THE RIGHT TRACK
iain
glad to hear every thing is working out Quartlow. That is one of the main reasons i joined this forum. Everyone here trys so hard to help any that needs it without thinking of themselves.
;)
I'm begining to think I've adopted this guy, he was here this morning again. :) I'm making coffee and the wife ask's me if I was down to the shop and fixed the fire all ready. I just gace here that deer in the headlights look and said, huh? So I take a gander out the back door and sure enough theres smoke coming frrom the chimney. So I grabbed my thermos and mosied down there. I just figured my nephew who is staying with me right now fixed it on way out to work. Wrong!!
Seems ol Jon was all ready here and fixed the fire and was cleaning up the sawdust around the shop. Told me he thought he owed me some more help for all the firewood even if he couldn't use it till the woodburner got fixed. Apparently he had been there since 6:30.
So for lack of anything better to do we cut up a 42 inch oak log I had down here, a job if I may say I've been putting off ::)
Didn't take no time at all for him to get onto the cant hook. and by the time we finsihed cutting up the second 1/4 he waiting on me. Only had to show him things once.
When we got done he cleaned up around the mill and I went up to the shop and called old Harry up. Explained what I know about the situation and asked him if he was intending on doing anything with that house or what. Well the old fart balked a bit at first but thats just Harry, he hates to spend money. Rumor has it he still has the first penny he ever made :D :D But in the end he promised me he would call a furnace man today to get the furnace checked out and come the first of the week he would go over and see what all the place needed.
Tomorrow I have to help my brother, he's select cutting his woods, I'm getting a few of the logs and hae is selling off the stuff that he's not going to have me saw for him. Told Jon I would pay him 10 bucks an hour to help tomorrow. See how he handles a 14 hour day. told him I would pick him up at 5:00AM.
If he works out ok I may call the feedmill, One of they guys in charge is an ex boyfriend of the wifes. :D :D I know they are looking for help. It's not a great job but they are pretty good people.
How old is this guy?
Sounds to me that he just wants to learn how to earn his way.
Sounds like a pretty good guy to me.
Keep him going Ouartlow.You are doing a great job.
Wish I could have met a person like you when I was young and on the "skids".
I'm positively glad to hear he's doing good. And glad to hear you're helping him. Everybody deserves and needs a chance. Now for the otherside of my thoughts. Don't forget you don't really KNOW this guy. Just saying to keep yer wits about ya.
Dont kno what kinda boundaries ya have with this guy, but a realitive stranger in my shed would have me approaching with something in my hand initially, .......seems a bit presumptuous on his part.Maybe you got to be better buds in that day than I figured. ;)
Quartlow, It's been very nice to read this story of yours and have chosen now to chime in myself.
I am glad to see things are working out and he's been
"given a chance" with you... I think that maybe it is just what he needed.
It kinda of hits home with me since I have a older brother who hit bottom many times and I was not around to encourage him to get up and stay up, only my mom really took any time to care.
I was away in the Air Force, far away from home and really didnt care what was going on, i was too far away to make any changes and had enough on my plate as it was.
We were your standard "home without a dad" family since my mom and dad seperated ( my "father" was and still is a worthless drunk, father or not, have not talked to him in years.)
My stepdad who I now call "dad" was a great influence on me when I was in my early and mid teens. He believed in me and thats all I needed. My older brother was already in trouble by the time my mom met my one day step"dad"
Now, I am older ( just turned 30) and so is my brother (37), now clean off drugs and doing better for himself and his family. He and I talk once a week where before it was once a year. I now live in PA again, but on the "other side" of the state from my family...I get to see my brother more now than ever....
Years ago when I came home on leave I'd go to see him ...but there were bars and glass between us. NOT ANYMORE
I think all he really needed was someone to believe in him too, like my step"DAD" did with me.......
maybe that was me... and his son... we believe he can do well and now he's been showing it.
Look after that guy, all he needs is someone to believe in him.
I think we all here hope you're able to get him on his feet...
( the guys here will also arrange a meeting with thats dudes father and the woodshed) :D :D
Quartlow, Just a couple of thoughts on your situation with this young family- How much would you know or be involved with this guy if he had just picked up some slabs and acted decent and you hadn't had your little dustup with him? Probably not very much. Sometimes things happen for a reason. Who knows, maybe this is one of those times. It would be awesome to know you have been picked to help this family-or maybe they have been picked to help you! I can see you are judging him not on how much he knows, but on how much "try" is in him. If he has enough "try" in him, he'll learn what he needs to know. smiley_bull_stomp (Sorry, after using that rodeo cowboy term, I couldn't resist using that bull!)
Way to go Q-Low!
I know the feeling you have!
Many of EARLY mornings here have been spent visiting with Jim, my adopted farmer. I am honored to be able to be there for him when it appears he has no one else.
The Good Lord has a reason for everything. That old saying of "The Truth Hurts" is so true. Its those that except the hurt from the truth and make corrections that are the winners!
"Ignorance is only a sin when its a prefered state of mind"
I think you just say it all Kirk ! :)
My philosophy has always been that I would rather make the mistake of giving kindness to someone that didn't deserve it, than ever risk withholding kindness from someone that truly needed it. :)
I trust everyone until they prove I made a mistake. Not many do, I sleep better that way. I haven't been let down very often. Is it luck or are people basically good?
Ernie
That says it all Roxie
In educational psychology, they encourage teachers to treat kids with a positive attitude reguardless of the reputation they might have. If you treat a kid like he is stupid and untrustworthy, he will act stupid and untrustworthy. I think maybe we all tend to react that way.
Ernie and Roxie get gold stars as well as Quartlow.
One of the times that I have been most ashamed of myself was when a fellow had a flat tire in front of our house. I wasn't nice to him at all :( He was not only falling down drunk, but used very poor judgement by having a flat in front of my house about a week after I had quit tobacco :o I was ashamed of several things that I did during that period :D
Anyway I chewed the guy out for being drunk in public and for being a real knucklehead for not having a spare and expecting someone that had put in a hard days work to just drop what they were doing to take him home. He said that was fine he believed he would rather walk than spend anymore time in my presence anyway. I thought about the way I had acted, remembered times when I had needed help, and some of the things I did when I was a drinker. I apoligized and offered him the use of my spare as we had the same make of pickups. I then helped him install the spare.
The next day, he was there bright and early with my tire and wheel. He said "bet you never expected to see me again" I told him I hadn't worried a minute about it. :D :D He was a pretty nice guy, especially when sober, and I turned out to be fairly decent after a year or two off the nicotine. ;D
Roxie and Quartlow, you get my vote! 8)I tend to give everyone the benefit of the doubt until they give me good reason not to. Yes I have been used and abused but I have also made some long term friends. Sounds like this young man needs to make something of himself and people to believe in him.
Thursday night it was snowing pretty good, and the roads had a coat of ice under the snow. As I came up to a pretty nasty turn where I have spun out in the past, there was a car off the road in the snowbank. I could see someone standing by the car, but I just kept driving.
Got to thinking about it and turned around at the next place I could. Got back and found a pretty shook of lady that had done a 180 and took out a mailbox sideways. Her son had just drove up right after I had gone past. Well between the three of us we got her car out and all of us back on our way.
I guess I was really feeling guilty for driving pass, considering how many times I've been in a situation like that and some one stopped to help.
Anyways Quartlow, you may never realize the possible chain of events you may have set into motion by helping this family out. Even if this fellow had intended to take advantage of the situation, it sounds like you are a pretty good influence on him.
Boy I am mean!! ;D We worked that poor guy hard yeasterday. Picked him up and he was all bright and chipper , too much in fact for that hour of the morning. made the 45 minute drive to my brothers, Filled the thermos back up, fired up the dozer and the 1750 oliver and over the hill we went. All total we had Me, my brother Howard, Jon 2 of my nephews Todd and Wayne and a neighbor Joey who logs for a living. I pretty much rode the dozer all day skidding logs up over the hill ;D It was a tough job but somebody had to do it. :D :D
Howard pretty much supervised and fell trees
Joey bucked out the logs since thats what he does for a living and we figured this was the best way to get the most out of logs
Wayne and Todd cut brush and trimmed the topps into 8 foot lentgs of firewood.
Poor Jon, he drug brush fed the chipper and stacked firewood all day with some help from Wayne and Todd.
About 1 we broke for Lunch Jon was still feeling pretty chipper. So i told the boys to kick it up a notch or 2. smiley_devil I'm a bad boy.
We finally knocked off about 6;00 Got everything back up to the house, Joey went home and the rest of us went to the barn and did the barn work. Finally got dinner about 8:00 Jon wasn't feeling so chipper now :D
After dinner we went out to the shop and helped my nephew set the enging back in his big truck, he pulled it out 2 weeks ago to to do and out of frame major on it. Got it set in place and bolted down. Set the raditor back in place hooked it up and did a few other small things. We finally got out of there about A little after 11 last night. We got in the truck and headed home. I wasn't 1/2 a mile down the road and poor Jon was sawing logs :D :D :D
All total 17 hours of hell for the poor guy and not one complaint not bad considering he had 3 or 4 people sending him in all differant directions and never giving him much of a chance to rest.
Now nobody at home knew where I found Jon, all they knew was I brought him along. I told my nephews that he had never really been in the woods before like this and to keep an eye on him and show him the ropes. But I also told them don't cut him any slack.
I callled everybody this morning and asked them what they thought of him. since I didn't see him most of the day
Howard liked him, But then again anyone who wil listen to my brother ramble on without interupting he likes.
Wayne and Todd both told me was ok and neither one of them are really outgoing. Wayne spent about 1/2 an hour going over the chipper with him so he wouldnt kill himself, They told me they didn't catch him doing anything dangerous all day. As far as they know he didn't complain once yeasterday.
The big question is NOW what do I do with him? I'm kind of thinking if he flies straight this week maybe next week I'll call over the feedmill and send him over there.
I'm still thinking about this.
Uy. Yep. So ya done about tried to kill the guy working him like a mad man and he done real good huh. I'm impressed that he stayed with it. So now instead of goin ahead and recommending him for a job yer gonna keep him for yourself for another week cause he's a good worker. :)
Nothing wrong with that but I sure wish I had a wayt to get a hold of him. I'd tell him it's time to ask for a RAISE! 8) 8)
ck your just wishing he new how ta roof :D :D
Quartlow did you check his hands ya mighta worn him to the bone working him so hard.
from what i've heard he might be a keeper, young strong and dont complain. glad to here hes trying at least.
Keep updating us Quartlow,
it's just great to know there is this calibre of person still out there - all too often we only here about the bad eggs.
He doesn't have internet access does he? Ya never know how someone will take it when heaps of folkes have been talking about 'em - regardless he's sounding like a good recommend to some local employers
Good onya Quartlow!
The guy sounds fantastic...
Sigidi, I don't think there's much danger of him reading this... The poor bugger's still sleeping!!! :D
Bro. Noble, just one thing about yer guy with the tyre... Did you help him change the tyre and let him drive home drunk??? Really???
QuoteSigidi, I don't think there's much danger of him reading this... The poor bugger's still sleeping!!!
Asy your humour outweighs your forest - you are fittin in just right, next test is some GRITS!!!!
sigidi, asy is a very nice person. What did she do to deserve grits? :D
This place is smile therapy and sometimes, just sometimes it's fall of ya chair funny :D
Hey there Quartlow, since this Jon guy obviously hasn't got a real father, why don't you adopt him. not only would you be a fantastic influence, but alos he would probably work for nothing as sons are supposed to do. :D :D
Seriously though, You have done him a great and valueable service allowing him to prove to himself and, no doubt, to his wife that he is actually a worthwhile human being with abilities beyond his current comprehension.
WELL DONE!!!!!!
Ernie
Well I didn't kill him :D He actually showed up here at 9 sunday morning. I told him to stop by so I could pay him. I figured I would see him late in the day. Had to ride over to the bank and hit the ATM machine. Left Nancy and the baby at my house with the wife.
He told me he has never worked that hard in his life, even though he was wore out at the end of the day he said he felt good about it. Oh though he is convinced my family is half crazy. Found out that while we where playing in the woods Harry came by and fixed the door, ended up replacing the whole thing. Pulled the old woodburner out and asked Nancey if she had any color preferances for paint. He told me he couldn't figure that one out, he figured Harry would never fix anything. ;D
After they left the wife told me that Nancy told her he couldn't believe someone would actually help out a stranger like this.
Monday I took him over the mill and he filled out an app, Jerry asked me what I knew about him and I told him not that much really. Told him I worked him like a dog on saterday and he held up ok for me. Told him he was going to have to train him, but Jerry likes em like that, says people who don't know their way around a mill don't have any bad habits to break. So he started there today, If I don't hear anything bad by the end of the week I'll find out something when I go over to get feed ground on friday. Keep your fingers crossed folks I'm hoping this doesn't bite me in the butt. :o :D :D :D
I'll tie up the 12 dogs fingers for ya Quartlow - just to make sure he's a good recommend, it's always tricky ground, but I know alot of folkes myself included, know you have done a good thing.
Quartliow, sounds like you have gained a good neighbor and a lifelong friend. smiley_beertoast
Like I said we will see what happens, I'm not one of the types that has a lot of friends, a few. I know a lot of people. So if I gain a good friend out of this in the end thats fine. Scary part is its kind of lonely around here with out him :D :D :D :D :D :D
Quartlow
When do you start on his father? I think he is in desperate need of a touch of What the real decent side of the world can be like.
Ernie
Not worried about that man Ernie. I figure it's his loss.
some people can't be educated and I just kind of figure he's one of them. I did what I'm gonna do. mending fences is their problem I'm not getting in the middle of that. done that once won't never do it again. ::)
Jon and his Dad will either work it out or not.
Gee Quartlow you're a wise man, you must be about 100 years old to have developed to that stage. :o :o :o :o :o :o
Keep us posted on Jon's job at the mill and let him know we are pulling for him.
Ernie
Quartlow,
Missed this trhead earlier. Hope all is going well with Jon. Any updates on how he and family is doing.