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Started by Ianab, June 24, 2020, 06:14:12 AM

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Ianab

Thought this might interest some. These trucks are operated around Kaingaroa forest. The oversize ones aren't road legal (length and weight) and only operate on the private roads around the forest.

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hacknchop

Big loads and all on the wrong side of the road. Thanks for sharing.
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sawguy21

That is interesting. Tree length loads are common here but certainly not on the highway with the length and weight of some of those. The truck with a long load and a pup is certainly intriguing.
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dgdrls

The cab-over at 24:00 min+/- is a dandy,
Not too many CO trucks left here in NY

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cutterboy

That certainly is a busy place. Lots of wood moving.
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Ianab

Quote from: sawguy21 on June 24, 2020, 11:01:22 AM
That is interesting. Tree length loads are common here but certainly not on the highway with the length and weight of some of those. The truck with a long load and a pup is certainly intriguing.
The trucks tagged Oversize aren't road legal, they are used on private owned roads only, although many of the roads are open to the public as well. The H tagged trucks are road legal but have to come up to higher standards, with ABS brakes etc. I think 55 tons all up for them. 
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Ianab

Quote from: cutterboy on June 24, 2020, 12:45:41 PM
That certainly is a busy place. Lots of wood moving.
The forest around Murupara is about 1500000 acres of pine, growing on a 25-30 year rotation. So its continuous harvesting, and lots of wood moving.
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frazman

I was amazed on how they harvested the trees along the hill sides in NZ when I was there last year to visit my daughter. Trees , trees and more trees.

Dale.NZ

To be honest, I'm always amazed what us kiwis can get away with harvesting. Number - 8 mentality at work. 
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Riwaka

The Central North Island, NZ where the truck video was filmed has been the primary area for large scale radiata pine forestry. The carbon credit/ forestry investors have been moving into other areas of New Zealand over the last 30plus years.

Sizeable areas of the Central North Island pine forest estate were converted to farming in the past 25 years. Some of 'carbon credit' areas are not so well suited to large scale pine forestry as the Central North Island. 

Typical NZ tv media item. No interviews with loggers.  
James Shaw will consider biodiversity credits for farmers planting trees on their land | Newshub

Hogdaddy

ooopps.. one is named the General Lee... would offend someone in the states....
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Riwaka

The truck might have been named in honor of this General Lee
Robert Merrill Lee - Wikipedia

There are a few Halsey Streets in NZ named after the US Navy WW2 Admiral.

William Halsey Jr. - Wikipedia.

The world has officially gone crazy......for this one below.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/entertainment/2020/06/the-dixie-chicks-drop-dixie-from-name-thank-nz-band-the-chicks-for-letting-them-share-name.html

Riwaka

What does the Pacific North West do to reduce the issue of lost logs and logging debris in the waterways etc?

NZ beach covered in old logs again, after a winter rain event.

Used heavy equipment to get the timber above the waterline to dry out and then the piles were burnt.
Lack of a pulp market in close proximity to that area has not helped.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/its-pretty-tough-tolaga-bay-locals-frustrated-more-timber-debris-washes-up


sawguy21

That is a real problem. The majority of logs are trucked to the mills but due to the sheer size of our forests much is still  brought by barge instead of booms. Many mills still have a 'wet sort' to store them but storms create havoc resulting in lost logs, debris which are navigational and environmental hazards. Another major problem is on reservoirs, it is a challenge keeping the penstocks free of debris. Imagine what that would do to turbines.
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Ianab

Another recent clip, mostly log trucks going into the local port. There is also an overview of the port and a log carrier loading nearer the end. 

Trucks in and out of Port Taranaki - YouTube
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moodnacreek

Both tree length and CTL debarked. What are the destinations?  Thanks.

Ianab

Export sawlogs going to China, India, Malaysia mostly. All the logs are processed and sorted at the landing, although I saw a few mixed grade loads.

The logs are sold on weight, hence the uniform loads. 
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dgdrls

Some nice trucks there,
Quite a port as well,

Thanks for posting Ianab

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Ianab

Quote from: dgdrls on May 03, 2022, 08:36:28 PMQuite a port as well,


Port used to be set up for containers as well, but as the ships have become bigger it got dropped from their route. The increase in the log trade has made up for it and they have converted that large dockside area to log marshalling. The other ships there look like oilfield support, so a couple of loads would be offshore drilling supplies, and I see a fertiliser ship / trucks there as well.   The port also handles bulk fuel / oil / methanol and LPG, but nothing going on that day.

If you want a live view, it's webcam #3 on this page. 
https://www.primo.nz/info/primo-webcams
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Resonator

Guys down there must like those cabovers. There aren't near as many here in the US as there were years ago, when big trucking fleets had THOUSANDS of them on the road.
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Riwaka

In the NZ hills. rain shadow area so it can be quite dry at times between the storms. 
A few cabover KWs that are put together in Australia. Tire inflation systems for the slow off road stuff with lower tire pressures.
Processors with the old style rops over excavator cab conversions. Fixed rotating grapple on the Doosan. (Might be a Sany (Chinese made) excavator conversion in this which is becoming a lower budget machine choice for forestry use compared to the specialist North American machinery)

Log Trucks in New Zealand (Marlborough) 4K!!! Part 2 - YouTube

sawguy21

Interesting that cabovers are used, we don't see them hauling logs. A conventional tagging a bank means a new front clip, a cabover its a new cab. The other problem is overheating with all the required emission equipment.
I wonder why they use a tandem with an an extra steer axle rather than our increasingly popular tri drive.
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Ianab

I think a lot has to do with local regulations regarding axle weights and total vehicle length. If the cops check weights they weigh each axle to make sure it's not over spec.  With the twin steer they would have better weight distribution, and more steering control, especially off-road. In the last video it's a nice dry "East Coast", plenty of dust and no mud. Here on the West Coast it's more likely to be raining, and they still need to navigate those hill tracks. 

The cab over also gives you more load space with the same total vehicle length.  It's not a deal breaker, as you see there are plenty of regular cab trucks as well. But the overall design of the rig is pretty much the same, it's like the optimal design that fits in the regulations. The "H" rated trucks generally have the 3 rear axles to allow the higher weight while keeping the individual axle loads the same. 

The  H rated trucks can run up to 55,000kg (121,000 lb), but have to be high spec units with ABS and stability control etc. 50,000 kg otherwise. As mentioned they often have onboard tyre pressure adjustment and weight scales. 

The modified excavator is used my most crews because it's so versatile. On a smaller job they may only use that. Or more commonly with a skidder, and the excavator doing the trimming and sorting at the landing. But it can also build the skid trails and access roads
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snowstorm

Quote from: sawguy21 on May 11, 2022, 10:41:03 PM
Interesting that cabovers are used, we don't see them hauling logs. A conventional tagging a bank means a new front clip, a cabover its a new cab. The other problem is overheating with all the required emission equipment.
I wonder why they use a tandem with an an extra steer axle rather than our increasingly popular tri drive.
quite a few twin steer trucks in eastern canada. all the trucks in europe are cab over and most are single axle some with a tag pulling a 3 axle trailer.been to europe 5 times the only long hood truck said u s army on it

snowstorm

and most of the trucks had 315 22.5 drive tires instead of 11 22.5 

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