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Started by TCove, May 19, 2020, 12:37:33 AM

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stavebuyer

Quote from: TCove on June 01, 2020, 02:06:56 AM
Quote from: stavebuyer on May 28, 2020, 04:01:19 AM
Most practical way to handle firewood is a concrete pad and a few of the big pre-cast blocks used as a backstop to push against. Pick up the wood with a rock or grapple bucket. Even a closed bucket with teeth will work.
Ya know, that does make a lot of sense, and I could then just scoop, and pour near my stove.  What are these "pre-cast" blocks you speak of that are large?
Most ready mix concrete plants have them for sale. They usually cast them with left overs so they sell cheaper than you could buy the concrete. Here the common size is 2'x2'x4' for $50.

reride82

Quote from: TCove on June 01, 2020, 02:06:56 AM
Quote from: stavebuyer on May 28, 2020, 04:01:19 AM
Most practical way to handle firewood is a concrete pad and a few of the big pre-cast blocks used as a backstop to push against. Pick up the wood with a rock or grapple bucket. Even a closed bucket with teeth will work.
Ya know, that does make a lot of sense, and I could then just scoop, and pour near my stove.  What are these "pre-cast" blocks you speak of that are large?
Tcove,
They are called ecology blocks. They can be stacked to form retaining walls.
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mike_belben

Quote from: TCove on June 01, 2020, 02:21:34 AM
Quote from: mike_belben on May 31, 2020, 10:12:15 AM
When heaping over with wet oak i cant move this one, and it takes 3 full panels.  I only made one.  






Hey Mike, I really like what you've got going on here.
That's pallet racking shelving.
I've actually got about 25 of those shelves sitting outside right now
I can easily figure out a way to connect them to the pallet, but it seems for strength, the key is to connect the shelving at the corners.  How are you doing that?
Sorry i didnt catch your question sooner.  I will take a pic or two tomorrow.  The first ones i think i just twisted with fence wire because i didnt have my welder for the first year or so when i moved. I probably welded right over what i had when i hauled that down.  
For attaching to the pallet, good quality U nails work good.  Co-ops have them for fence, with barbed sides to prevent backing out. The top front is the spot that needs a tension member to keep from spreading too far.  Chain, wire, strap, weld in rebar etc. 
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mike_belben

I forgot all about this.  

For the 2nd set of bins i trimmed and torch bent the racking at the braces to put them in the corners. Then just lapped and wired them and later booger welded the laps and added some rebar at the front and back tops to keep the walls from blowing open. U-nails for fencing hold it to the pallet.










Theyre great but not something i want to give away.  For that i have started making my own wood pallets from sawmill waste. 



 3 chunks of dunnage on bottom, just pieces of doaty cants. Then 3 heavy slab pieces  for a bottom, and 4 uprights.  I bang them together with an air nailer in my shed and then tie the upright top and bottom with bailing twine.  Theyre delicate when empty but pretty stout once loaded when the twine gets tight.  Hold about half a rick and i fill them in straight off the splitter.  Eliminates handling to load/unload.  Will just give it to customer or dump into the truck. 




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SpaceBus

How many cords is a Rick? 
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doc henderson

usually a rick is the ht. and length of a cord like 4 feet tall and 8 feet long.  the width is one row so wood that is 16 inches long is 1 rick equals 1/3 cord, and a rick that the wood is 24 inches long is a 1/2 cord.  a cord is 4 x 4 x 8 feet or 128 cubic feet.  stacked
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SpaceBus

Quote from: doc henderson on August 06, 2020, 04:25:10 PM
usually a rick is the ht. and length of a cord like 4 feet tall and 8 feet long.  the width is one row so wood that is 16 inches long is 1 rick equals 1/3 cord, and a rick that the wood is 24 inches long is a 1/2 cord.  a cord is 4 x 4 x 8 feet or 128 cubic feet.  stacked
Synonymous with "face cord" then. 
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doc henderson

yes.  I have a rack by the house, that is 4 foot tall, and 12 feet long.  with 16 inch wood it is a 1/2 cord
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mike_belben

Quote from: SpaceBus on August 06, 2020, 04:59:21 PM
Quote from: doc henderson on August 06, 2020, 04:25:10 PM
usually a rick is the ht. and length of a cord like 4 feet tall and 8 feet long.  the width is one row so wood that is 16 inches long is 1 rick equals 1/3 cord, and a rick that the wood is 24 inches long is a 1/2 cord.  a cord is 4 x 4 x 8 feet or 128 cubic feet.  stacked
Synonymous with "face cord" then.
Yeah, and theyre a pain in the butt.  People want your 24" long rick for the same 50 bucks as a 14" rick.  If you start talking cubic foot or tonnage or cords they get huffy. Youre just sposta give away more wood for the same money.  Oh and deliver and stack it too plz. 
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mike_belben

The other day i measured up in my truck bed for a delivery and converted to square inches to be sure i brought what i said i would.  9,216 square inches.  

That oughta get em riled up.
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Ianab

That's why we only sell firewood by the "cubic meter". So that's a box 1m x1m x1m, or the equivalent. I know an official cord is a proper measurement as well, so probably stick to that, or fractions of. Those other measurements are pretty much whatever someone wants them to be.  ::)
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SpaceBus

I have a lot of respect for folks that sell firewood. It's hard to make money doing it and most of your customers aren't well off. 
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mike_belben

When times are good i am not in the firewood business.  When they are bad, theres always eeking by this week on firewood, its always piled around here somewhere.  

Making throw away crates for all the wood i do whether mine or not should cut down on overhandling.  Im tired of stacking mine nice then having to restack to fit it in the truck then  throw it off then stack it for them.  The way im doing it only makes sense as a last resort.

A dumptruck is the next big streamliner for me.  The processor is still a ways off.  Then it'll make sense cents.  But there isnt enough money in a rick to buy new equipment or break even before you wear it out.  Ya kinda need free money, free equipment, or free time and a junkpile. Ive got the junk, still needing the time.
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