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General Forestry => Chainsaws => Topic started by: Peter Drouin on November 27, 2022, 10:46:49 AM

Title: Saws
Post by: Peter Drouin on November 27, 2022, 10:46:49 AM
 
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I have new ones too, But, when I clean and oil them up. I can't see how one could use one all day. Some are down right hard to hold. And heavy. They all turn over. 
Anyone have old saws out there to see?
Title: Re: Saws
Post by: newoodguy78 on November 27, 2022, 11:23:25 AM
I don't have pictures to share but that 5th picture looks like that ones sitting on the shelf smoking away  :D
I can't even imagine running some those. I've held a few that were so ergonomically incorrect it was incredible. Nice collection 👍, hopefully others have some to share as well. 
Title: Re: Saws
Post by: DHansen on November 27, 2022, 12:00:58 PM
Wow!  Very cool and great display set up.  Thanks for sharing the photos.
Title: Re: Saws
Post by: barbender on November 27, 2022, 12:13:57 PM
Yeah, back from the days when getting an internal combustion engine attached to a cutting chain was an engineering marvel. Putting a handle on it and handing it to some poor sap to run all day was an afterthought🤦‍♂️😂

 I remember running my Grandpa's old International TD9 that is from the same era. The controls on that are a good match for those chainsaws😊
Title: Re: Saws
Post by: DHansen on November 27, 2022, 12:47:18 PM
Just reading Barbender's post makes my arms numb.
Title: Re: Saws
Post by: Walnut Beast on November 27, 2022, 01:18:00 PM
Quote from: DHansen on November 27, 2022, 12:00:58 PM
Wow!  Very cool and great display set up.  Thanks for sharing the photos.
Absolutely! Nice collection! The old timers did stuff that would have the candy generation shaking in their boots to do 😂
Title: Re: Saws
Post by: sawguy21 on November 27, 2022, 01:40:53 PM
Some interesting saws but none I would want to run all day. ;D I have a small collection in storage as I have no place to display them at the moment, my passion for saws and logging brought me to the FF.
Title: Re: Saws
Post by: olcowhand on November 27, 2022, 02:42:23 PM
Quote from: sawguy21 on November 27, 2022, 01:40:53 PMmy passion for saws and logging brought me to the FF.


......and we're glad it did......
Title: Re: Saws
Post by: bigblockyeti on November 27, 2022, 03:49:07 PM
Quote from: sawguy21 on November 27, 2022, 01:40:53 PM
Some interesting saws but none I would want to run all day. ;D I have a small collection in storage as I have no place to display them at the moment, my passion for saws and logging brought me to the FF.
You could always throw together a tower, in theory taking up only slightly more floor space than a single chainsaw.
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Title: Re: Saws
Post by: SwingOak on November 28, 2022, 11:12:45 AM
My dad has a Homelite C5 with a 22" bar he bought new in the early 60's, and it still runs. I remember as a kid how loud it was and the sparks that would shoot out of the exhaust (can't really call it a muffler LOL). Dad said it was the lightest weight saw he could buy at the time, maybe 20 lbs(?) and it's all aluminum.

A lot of trees have been felled and bucked with this saw over the years. 
Title: Re: Saws
Post by: Patrick NC on November 28, 2022, 06:20:47 PM
When I was a kid my father had an old homelite zip that sat in the corner of the shed. I asked him once why he never used it. He just shook his head and said it was better than an axe,  but not much. 
Title: Re: Saws
Post by: upnut on November 29, 2022, 06:39:15 AM
One of my son's first classroom projects in college was to measure the kickback time on running chainsaws in order to improve safety systems. When I showed him the last batch of old chainsaw pictures his jaw dropped in disbelief. 

This was one of his latest projects at JR Automation, my how the world has changed... Improving Process with Advanced Drainage Systems | JR Automation, A Hitachi Group Company - YouTube (https://youtu.be/My0qFcGnFQc)

Scott B.
Title: Re: Saws
Post by: barbender on November 29, 2022, 11:34:55 AM
That is amazing equipment.

I geek out on some of the newer forestry and sawmill equipment, but compared to factory and food plant machinery it's pretty primitive!
Title: Re: Saws
Post by: Real1shepherd on November 29, 2022, 12:09:31 PM
Except on steep slopes where they still use rigging and inaccessible places that do heli-logging, the harvesters have all but replaced fallers. I had good vision that I got out when I did. The scale was getting smaller, I was making less money....why risk my life every day if the pay wasn't good etc.....

Kevin
Title: Re: Saws
Post by: thecfarm on November 30, 2022, 06:31:46 AM
I used to work on those robots many years ago.
The hardware store I used to work at bought pipe from ADS.
Title: Re: Saws
Post by: firefighter ontheside on December 01, 2022, 07:22:34 AM
I wish I had my dad's old Skil chainsaw that he had when I was a kid.  It was the first saw I ever used.  I think my hands are still vibrating from using that to cut down a honey locust tree in the back yard.
Title: Re: Saws
Post by: bigblockyeti on December 01, 2022, 07:49:46 AM
Kinda like this one?


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Title: Re: Saws
Post by: firefighter ontheside on December 01, 2022, 08:42:49 AM
No it was bigger and red.  Kinda like this one I found on the net.  May have been this same saw.

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Title: Re: Saws
Post by: sawguy21 on December 01, 2022, 11:40:34 AM
That was the PM Canadian built in Vancouver B.C. before Skil took them over. It was the first clamshell crankcase I had seen. Yeah, they were heavy and vibration took its toll but very popular with farmers, ranchers and weekend warriors. The little one is still one of my favorites, light, reliable and so easy to service. It too was built in Vancouver until absorbed by EMAB (Husqvarna parent company).
Title: Re: Saws
Post by: Al_Smith on December 03, 2022, 03:16:33 PM
Since it's been mentioned I too have a couple of small Skil chainsaws .Where they came from I have no idea .They are like stray cats that just show up .I have no idea if it will run or not  but I'm sure it did at one time or another .
Title: Re: Saws
Post by: Al_Smith on December 03, 2022, 03:20:06 PM
Now then as far as those afore mentioned robots I spent the last 10-12 years of my working life working on those things and CNC high speed machinery .
Title: Re: Saws
Post by: thecfarm on December 04, 2022, 08:08:07 PM
Hey Al, I really could not see any marking on those yellow robots. The ones I worked on were Fanuc. They were the same color as the link.
Then we had 2 motor man. Those were white.
The first 2 we had was ABB or ABS. I forgot.
Title: Re: Saws
Post by: Al_Smith on December 05, 2022, 09:45:38 AM
I've only dealt with a couple of Fanuc's .It was mainly ABB .That said however it became complicated as some of the "brains" were in the controller and some might be  from a remote source .Add to that depending on who designed the system it could be from one or more of at least 26 operating systems ,at that time .I might also  add the Swedes did it one way and the Germans used another way .I'll just say I got paid very well to be confused .It was changing so rapidly even the engineers had a hard time keeping up .
One Rene Descartes discovered the Cartesian plane theory in the 1600's but I 'd wager he never thought it would evolve into this . :)