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Re: direct drive or torque drive , which one in a skidder is better
« Reply #100 on: December 02, 2022, 01:22:45 PM »
That is insane, 11MBF of hardwood what do those trucks gross? Gotta be 170,000#?
Too many irons in the fire

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Re: direct drive or torque drive , which one in a skidder is better
« Reply #101 on: December 02, 2022, 07:32:59 PM »
170 is quite common and in winter time its higher than that 

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Re: direct drive or torque drive , which one in a skidder is better
« Reply #102 on: December 02, 2022, 07:38:10 PM »
I cut for a guy a while ago like years ago  and he paid $50 per load, that was $50 to cut , $50 to skid and $50 to buck a load up , Sp the trucks got alot bigger but the pay rate didnot change . Then I ended working by myself so I was doing the cutting, skidding and bucking so I figured I would get $150 a load cause I was doing all 3 jobs , Well they did not see it that way and tried to pay me $50 a load , it didnot go well for them 

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Re: direct drive or torque drive , which one in a skidder is better
« Reply #103 on: December 02, 2022, 08:26:49 PM »
170 is quite common and in winter time its higher than that
Donít you guys run tridems? They can legally gross that? Iíve had 11k on a self loader. Weight unknown. Most good loads will never be weighed. 

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Re: direct drive or torque drive , which one in a skidder is better
« Reply #104 on: December 03, 2022, 02:09:28 AM »
Well we run lead so kind of a tandem then a trailer. Couple trucks have 2 steering axles with tri drive out back and the pup trailer can have 3 to 5 axles with most being 4 or 5 axles .  Never said they were legal loads lol.  I'm close to the mill so most times if the logs can fit they go for a ride 

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Re: direct drive or torque drive , which one in a skidder is better
« Reply #105 on: January 06, 2023, 05:12:01 PM »
what is the smallest width tire I can run on this skidder , I have not drew a single tree with it yet, I drove it in the bush and turned around cause its just way to wide to pulling timber here , I got 30.5 on it and 10 ft 6 inches wide , I planned on cutting those rims and putting 24.5 by 32 on machine but zero tires in canada in that size from Firestone but they do have enough 23.1 by 26 in 20 ply here in stock 

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« Reply #106 on: January 06, 2023, 06:06:04 PM »
There is 640s with 23.1s. Depends on your ground. But youíll be sinkin and or spinnin. in my experience those Skidders need rubber or you might as well just get a smaller machine. Even the small Skidder swill roll a 23.1 if you have a big hitch. Back tires blow twice as fast on a 360/548 with 23.1. 

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« Reply #107 on: January 06, 2023, 10:19:37 PM »
I agree but the mill bought a 548 with 28l on it and its pretty much the same width as this one is , What my small weak mind thinks is this , I tried pulling 2 good size whitepine in the grapple and I did move them but as soon as I started up a easy hill my front wheels came off the ground so I released the grapple and parked it and used my little skidder to pull both trees at once to the landing . This skidder needs tire width and weight to pull anything so some how I got to figure out the narrowest way to do that , I know I can cut these rims and go in 6 inches on total width and still run chains if I need to but have to really look if I can go in any further than that , All I got to worry about is when the front axle swings up will the tire with chain on it hit the engine panels . 28l would be a touch narrower but alot of cost . I thought hard on 24.5 but zero tires in Canada so thats out . The other plan is wait till Barge buys me that new tc 602 grapple for me . The 602 is about 5000 pounds heavier than this machine and you can buy it with 23.1 by 26 on it but I'm thinking your going to be plowing steady on soft ground

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« Reply #108 on: January 07, 2023, 07:20:09 AM »
You should be able to put your grapple/arch hight so it wonít pull the front tires. But I see thatís a single arch also. Dual 18.4-34! 😂 narrow when you need it and wide and heavy/wide puller when you need it. 

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Re: direct drive or torque drive , which one in a skidder is better
« Reply #109 on: January 08, 2023, 11:57:44 AM »
A TC 602 grapple is still 5000 pounds heavier than a Deere 648?!?! Wow I didnít realize that. I knew the 602 are stout compact machines but dang 
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« Reply #110 on: January 08, 2023, 01:11:39 PM »
I think that is what is now known as "thicc" 
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Re: direct drive or torque drive , which one in a skidder is better
« Reply #111 on: January 08, 2023, 10:00:04 PM »
That is compare a 648 g3 single arch to the 602 dual arch and it's over 5000 pounds difference . The 602 is not a small skidder like most people think 


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