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Every once and a while I go to our sponsor's web sites and see what's new.  

I especially check out the Wood-Mizer web site right after the first of each month as they tend to have at least one new story on the welcome page and maybe few others.  

This month they have a story about a Canadian Jim Oseychuk building buildings with curved rafters.

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Also an artical about Mike Slingerland a competitor in the Stihl Timber Sports Series.

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Anther thing I noted this time was they are offering coupons on new mills.  They range from a box of blades on and LT15 to a free engine size upgrade on the LT70.  

If you order a LT70 with 42hp diesel and they'll up it to the 51hp CAT.  Order the 51hp CAT and they'll up it to the 62hp CAT.  Kind of "Super Size" deal.

Coupon sample on LT70 (http://www.woodmizer.com/Graphics/ART/couponbook/LT70save.gif)

Similar coupons on all the other orange mills.

Peterson has a new popup I've not seen before anouncing their new automated mill.

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(May load slow if you have slow connection to internet because it loads a video.)

I'm a couple of days early on checking out the Wood-Mizer web site to see what was new so I didn't really expect to find anything.  But there was something new on their welcome 'home' page.  A link to their used Wood-Mizer mills.

Used Wood-Mizer mills (http://www.woodmizer.com/usedmills/usedmills.html)

They only show two and one is sold but it's a start.

When I was at Indy last week, I looked at the Super 40 HD they had listed for $24,000. It was out of my price range, but I wanted to see the condition so I could compare it to the other mills I had been looking at. I'm new to sawmills, so I'm not an expert on them by any means. However I have been turning wrenches on airplanes for over 25 years, so I know a little about machines. It appeared to be in the best condition of any of the mills I saw that week, except for the new ones at the factory. I would say it was a chance for someone to get a good Super for the price of a new 40HD. This isn't a sales pitch, it's just an independant opinion from personal observation of the mill in case someone is in the market.
I wished someone would have posted similar reports on some of the other mills I looked at last week. It could have saved me a lot of driving.

Rick

Itoo, visit our sponsors from time to time. Hey that side chuter is way cool 8)

Just waiting for the fire to get started again,  I went out and checked out the sponsor's web sites.

Did you know Baker has a new small mill out called the Buddy?

Link--> Baker Buddy (http://www.baker-online.com/DOCUMENTS/wood%20buddy.html)

Did you know that on the Wood-Mizer web site they have a link in the upper left corner to their global home web site under 'SELECT A COUNTRY'?  It will take you to Wood-Mizer web sites all over the world.  

I've checked out the one in Poland a number of times over the years.  Why check this out?  Well,  they have a few different Wood-Mizers than we have here in the USA.  They were showing the LT70 at least a year before it was available in the USA.

Link--> Wood-Mizer - Poland - LT20 (http://www.woodmizer-europe.com/cgi-bin/wsp/wmi/sawmill.htm?sid=cdaLdkalrjljJLkl7401&lang=us&site=wm&prodID=2) BTW - it come up in English.

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They have a new LT20 manual mill.  Looks like it's of the LT25/27 family of mills but the sawhead and mast is redesigned to be more like the LT70s!  It has a new clamping system and optional log loading arms powered by a manual hydraulic pump.

Makes you wonder when we may see something like that in the USA?

Makes me wonder what they have out in China or South America? ???

Bibbyman,

Why does Woodmizer have those mills in Europe and not here in the states?

Ron

Check out the LT80.  Reminds me of the larger Bakers or the Logmasters....

The Accessories page shows a different molder than available here and a gang rip edger.
Is the domestic edger capable of gang ripping?

Ron,  I don't think so... not yet anyway.  Did you note the hydraulic loading arms powered by a hand pump?  

Scott,  did you note they also have an LT50?  It is an LT40 sawhead on an LT80 length frame.  I think it'll saw logs up to something like 27' long.

Bibbyman,

I did note the hydraulic arms powered by a hand pump. Nice option if you did not want all the hydralics. I also like the LT20 that they have with the new sawhead.

Very interesting!

Bibby,
I just went back and checked it out.  I wonder what they're building over there to need 27 ft lumber?  I also wonder if someone could get one here?  I'd bet they would sell one and they just don't advertise it here as not many need that long lumber...  

I can only speculate but I've heard stories from my WM friends that they do a lot of business in some of the heavily forested areas of Russia and such.  Places where they've got a lot of tall trees with a few tigers hidden among them.

It's hard to do business in Europe unless you manufacture there. The factory out of Poland probably supplies mills to all of Europe and Asia and maybe Africa.  

As for available here,  I don't know that they are set up to manufacture that frame.   Exporting it from Poland would be a major expense.  I've talked to the WM sales about deleting some features and I think they'll do that ... But to build some custom configuration,  I'd suspect not.

Very Interesting...  So much to learn, so little time...
Thanks Bibby!

This is not really a web site item but we just got our new Wood-Mizer catalog yesterday and there was a picture of my long time Wood-Mizer friend Clifford Siebeneck.  

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Clifford Siebeneck story on Wood-Mizer web site (http://www.woodmizer.com/inside/clifford.html)

We live about 45 minutes apart but seldom run into each other.  But we got to visit with Clifford again down at the Wood-Mizer open house in Mount Vernon, Mo.  He's still sawing.  Said just that week he'd sawn over 3,000 bf in one day with his LT40HDG24 mill.  Said it was a long day and he wore out some awful good help.

Clifford actually won the $500 door prize,  good for accessories to a new mill purchase,  but returned the prize to allow someone interested in buying a new mill to win it.  I didn't ask him how many thousands of hours he has on his third Wood-Mizer but apparently it's still going strong and so is he!

I checked out Log Rite"s site a couple weeks ago and saw that they did not have a dealer here in the West.  I offered and also purchased a 48" pv.  I have sawed a little over 2,000 bddft. of logs and not one time had the hook slip or miss catching the log, whether with or without bark. 8)  I have even used it for separating some logs on the bunks before they are raised to the mill platform for sawing and there has been no paint scraping or scratching, as yet.   ;D   I sure like the idea of being able to remove the point if need be, due to a possible break or you wish to convert to a cant hook unit on a temp basis.  

   I have purposely left the unit in the weather to watch for problems.  None have appeared.  

   I am still waiting to hear from Kevin or Pete about the dealership possibilities.   I reckon when my name appears in the listing of "Dealers" I will know their decision. ???

I'z pokin' around the Sponsor's web sites again this evening.  Guess what?  SOMEBODY'S web site has been completely re-done.  Pretty nifty. Online store and everything.

This is in answer to something that was brought to my attention and is addressed to anyone (only one that I know of, and I'll bet its only one ) that has a problem with this thread.

I very much approve of this thread. I am very thankful to our sponsors and you should be also. They enable me to keep this forum going and allow me to spend at least a portion of the time thats needed to keep things going for all of its members. Our sponsors are the GREATEST. I encourage news from them and about them, from our members or directly from the sponsors. They are paying the bills and they should be commended congratulated and appreciated. Everyday, in every way by everyone.  

I do my utmost to make sure this forum is free from spam and unwanted advertising. Our sponsors news and information no how and no way falls in either of those categories.  Any thinking in any to the contrary will only undermine this forum, its members and its future.

Questions? I hope not.

Nobody's come up with the sponsor's web site I'm making reference to as being completely updated?

Bet your first guess is wrong! :o

Nope!  I know which site it is. :)

I've come up with two answers.

RR and LR

Did I win!

LogRite

   I don't check them out very often(bad bad Dail),seems all of a sudden,there ain't no time. I don't even get to check out all my favorite forums here every day. Too much to do,too little time.
   That doesn't mean I don't appericeiate them,just don't take the time to visit regular.Guess I don't get no gold star huh

D&L Double Cut Web site is looking good  ;D

Looks to me like its the TimberKing site had some good work done. :)

RR and LR and Double cut - all good sites and fairly new sponsors.

But the one I'm talking about is the web site of one of the very first sponsors.  Here is another hint.

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These sponsor's web sites are more than blatant advertisements where the only need to go to one is if you are in the market for their product.  Most have important information and cool stories and links to other web sites.

Dig deep enough and you can really find some cool stuff.  

How's this for an example.

Band sawmill cuts 500 mt of ice in 14 days for Finnish Snow Show (http://www.woodmizer-planet.com/text.htm?wscharset=windows-1252&s=Owner&m=21&id=233)

AHHH!  By the time I got my post in,  Jeff named it.

Got up with a little indigestion about an hour ago and checked in to see what was going on on the Forestry Forum.   Did that.

Then,  for some reason I can't remember right now (and may never come back to me ???),  I clicked on the link to the Wood-Mizer website.

WOW!   They've redone the whole thing!   8)

They've got all the Wood-Mizer products listed on the home page – Sawmills,  Industrial Sawmill,  Lastec,  Metel-Mizer, and their wood products, etc.  A whole new look.

I'm going back to see what else I can find... 8)

The WM site looks much nicer.

pretty cool. I dont usually take much time for other websites to tell ya the truth but I just spent an hour and a half there! :D

I had someone ask me what happened to the listing of used sawmills on the new Wood-Mizer web site.  I looked and couldn't find it either.  I got with a friend at WM and was told to look under the online store.  There it was - just one little line of text on the top of the page.

I don't know that there are a lot of people in the market for used WM mills but I suspect there are a good number that like to see what's available and what the asking prices are.

Here is the link... Used Wood-Mizer mills (http://www.woodmizer.com/en/store/used/index.aspx)

Hay!  They've got an LT15 listed!  Never seen that before..

Well I checked out the sponsors & order a 60" LogRite cant hook on line the other day. LogRite E-Mail me back & wanted to know where I heard about them .
I E-Mail back & say Forestry Forum   8) 8) 8)

I've spent a couple of hours out looking at our great sponsor's web sites again. 

Here are a few things I've found that I've not seen before.  I admit I'm not that familiar with all the sponsors as I am with the band mill guys so if I've missed anything new on the other web sites,  please point them out.

Have you checked out the Wood-Mizer Europe web site lately?

Wood-Mizer Europe (http://www.woodmizer-europe.com/index.htm)

I was poking around out there and saw all kinds of products and options that are not available here in the USA.

I found...

A series of mills designated the LT20 that look to be very similar to the newly introduced LT28 - except it looks to be available with a couple of different electric motors and a 22 hp diesel engine.  It looks to be available in a hydraulic version too.  There is a hydraulic loading arm option for the manual mill that is powered by a hand pump.

LT20 Series Mills (http://www.woodmizer-europe.com/prod.htm?p=T&i=2)

Then there are two models of single head resaws.  They looked to be based on the LT70 head.  One has a head that tilts so it could produce lap siding.

Single Head Resaw (http://www.woodmizer-europe.com/prod.htm?p=I&i=25)

Single Head Resaw w/tilt table (http://www.woodmizer-europe.com/prod.htm?p=I&i=26)

Then there is a four sided molder/planer.   

Four side planer/molder (http://www.woodmizer-europe.com/prod.htm?p=I&i=21)

Then the LT40 and LT70 series look to be available in the 16' (LT30), 21' (LT40) and 28' bed lengths. Their designations are LT40S, LT40M, and LT40L for the 40 series and LT70M, S, & L for the 70 series.

LT70 with 28' bed (http://www.woodmizer-europe.com/prod.htm?p=T&i=4)

If you look close, you'll see the mill in the picture has the designation of LT80 on the cover.  Wood-Mizer demoed an LT80 at the 20'th Anniversary Party a couple of years back.  But, to my knowledge, they've not tried to sell any in the USA and have dropped them from the catalog. 

So,  it looks like you guys in Europe have a different menu to pick from.

Looks like Peterson has improved their web site since I've been out there last and has a lot of good reading.

Peterson (http://www.petersonsawmills.com/)

And as mentioned in a couple of posts already,  they are giving away tickets to the Paul Bunyan Forestry Show!

The Baker in Blue boys have some info on their new Super Streak 3650E industrial mill on their home page but I've not been able to find a link to pictures or more info.

Baker Online! (http://www.baker-online.com/)

They have also added a "Coming Soon!" announcement that they will be adding a line of apparel.  (Now Arky won't have to make his own!)

D & L Double Cut has announced that they are distributing a CGI Pro-Series four sided planer

D & L Double Cut (http://www.doublecut.com/default.asp)

Planer Pro (http://www.planerpro.com/)

And they are now distributors for the whole LogRite tool line.

As I said,  if I missed anything on any of the other somson's web sites,  please point them out. :)

I've been hidig out on the Peterson site here latley.   We did a demo and cut some lumber for a fund raiser last weekend and I spent a lot of time on their site making sure I had all the answers I needed for any questions that poped up.

I like they way they have redone their site. It is much easire to find all the information you are looking for.

They have redone the video section with new footage.  I just wish the ASM video was longer.  Some day I'd like to try one.  That looks like a lot of fun

there is even a video of a dedicated slabber being used to make table tops.

Tom