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Small house/ cabin plans
« on: December 05, 2009, 09:20:40 AM »
   I'm seriously considering a semi-permanet move to WV,have developed copd,and have trouble breathing in coastal N.C.Looking for plans for small house/cabin,24 x 24ish.Something simple,will probably just be me n pup
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Re: Small house/ cabin plans
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2009, 12:47:56 PM »
I thought about something that size. One room with bath, the kitchen could butt up against a wall to the bath, all water lines in one place. Anything over 6-12 pitch on the roof would give you some storage or spare bedroom for company. Interior walls could be added later if desired.
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Re: Small house/ cabin plans
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2009, 01:04:54 PM »
This is a small semi permanent but  quaint design,  


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Re: Small house/ cabin plans
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2009, 07:25:44 PM »
that one is a little too rustic for me. i usually do not have any plans other than what is in my head. my building designs vary depending on what i can scrounge.

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Re: Small house/ cabin plans
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2009, 08:29:58 PM »
Funny, but a friend of mine has a cabin he built and listed for sale on ebay recently.

The home is sitting in Jane Lew, WV, at his yard.

Lookup ebay auction 110459613646 to see pics of the structure, it's a dandy piece of work with beautiful adz work on the entire outside and all of the joists inside.

You can get contact info from his website at http://tamaracklogandtimberhomes.com/

Tim could build you whatever you want, if your not interested in doing it yourself.

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Re: Small house/ cabin plans
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2009, 09:54:56 PM »
Here's mine.  It 24X20 with an upstairs.  I'll look around and find some inside shots.  There were no house plans when I built it.

 

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Re: Small house/ cabin plans
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2009, 10:38:15 PM »
Here are some pictures of the inside.  The walls and cabinets are "reused" old growth heart pine lumber salvaged from my Grandfather's house.  I ran out and had to use some sheetrock in the bedroom, and white paneling upstairs.
Looking into the kitchen from the living room
 


 


 


 


The front door was the original door in the house.  It's well over 100 years old.
 


From the kitchen looking into the living room
 


I ran out of pine and used some sheetrock
 


Upstairs, taken from the stairs
 


Upstairs looking toward the stairs
 




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Re: Small house/ cabin plans
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2009, 11:13:04 PM »
What a nice job and great Cabin Magicman.
The front Porch looks mighty inviting.
I think that's all anyone needs right there. ;)
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Re: Small house/ cabin plans
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2009, 11:29:54 PM »
 Real nice Magicman, be nice to have a plan for that. I like the stairs.

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Re: Small house/ cabin plans
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2009, 12:03:02 AM »
I like the whole place. 8) 8)
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Re: Small house/ cabin plans
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2009, 08:16:57 AM »
   Ya gotta love that reclaimed yellow pine!! I like all of it ,really nice. May have to adjust my size a little. Since this will be sorta a full time residence for me, might have to up it a little. Need room for washer dryer,small freezer, n possibly 2nd small bedroom for kids/guests to visit. As I'm matureing in years,want primary bedroom downstairs.Ain't as good at climbing stairs as I once was.
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Re: Small house/ cabin plans
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2009, 10:03:16 AM »
Try countryplans.com.  A good site  for exactly what you are describing.

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Re: Small house/ cabin plans
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2009, 10:38:00 AM »
Here's mine. 18 x 20..kitchen, pantry and bedroom downstairs. Loft upstairs.





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Re: Small house/ cabin plans
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2009, 11:16:27 AM »
Those are all nice cabins!

A square building will give you more square footage per foot of wall but I find a square building harder to cut up into different living areas.

Example : A 24'x24' building has 96' of wall and 576 sqft of area.
               A 16'x32' building has 96' of wall and 512 sqft of area.

Even though the 16x32 has less area (64sqft) I would find it eaiser to layout a floor plan or increase the 16' to 18' and get the same area with only 4 more feet of wall.

More things to think about.

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Re: Small house/ cabin plans
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2009, 11:52:12 AM »
   Ya gotta love that reclaimed yellow pine!! I like all of it ,really nice. May have to adjust my size a little. Since this will be sorta a full time residence for me, might have to up it a little. Need room for washer dryer,small freezer, n possibly 2nd small bedroom for kids/guests to visit. As I'm matureing in years,want primary bedroom downstairs.Ain't as good at climbing stairs as I once was.
Did you look at that cabin I pointed you to on ebay? It has a 2nd floor loft, and if you wanted more space you could put it on a walkout basement and get about 1600 sq.ft. I could be bias as I'm building a similar 28'x32' myself, but will have more $$$s into it by the time I get it done than I would have if I just bought the shell he listed on ebay...check out the size of those logs!  The last pic shows how nice the adz work looks for the beams...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110459613646
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Re: Small house/ cabin plans
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2009, 12:50:57 PM »
That is interesting,  I am under the influence that the adze was not the traditional tool for such finishes, the axe was.  Very nice job. 

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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2009, 02:29:01 PM »
That is interesting,  I am under the influence that the adze was not the traditional tool for such finishes, the axe was.  Very nice job. 
I think there are both styles, but the broad axe is more common. The adz looks cooler, IMO. Typically, when many of the settlers used the broad axe, they would chop vertical slots with a bit axe style head (V style edge), and then use the broad axe (chisel style edge) to chop off the sections along the lateral, if that makes sense. The surface would end up with vertical slices. Nowadays that vertical cut could be done with a crosscut saw, but keep in mind that in the days of lore, it would have been more common to have only a single axe, IMO.

I guess they must have used the adz in the same fashion, where they could cut/chop verticals along the lateral and knock the sections off with the adze. OTOH, maybe the adze was used to clean up the broad axe work to remove the laterals, who knows for sure...? There's a lot of theories on crafting with logs.

That style is a combination of what Mackie refers to as Georgian style, and the Appalachian style. The adz was more common in the Appalachian. Ontario probably has some Appalachian influence also, since there was a fair amount of traffic from the Appalachian region to Ontario (so I have been told). Georgian in the sense that the size of the logs used only required 6 logs to make the main floor height. That was more common in Ontario. Coincidentally, Tim Bullock is from Ontario...but his wife is from West Virginia (a.k.a. a part of the Appalachians).

To quote Mackie from his book, "The Owner-Built Log House":

"Hewn-log house, Ontario, circa 1840. This house was built in the Georgian style with white pine logs. Note that only six and seven logs were required to obtain wall height"   B.Allan Mackie

The point is that large logs were more typical of Ontario than of the Appalachian, and was mostly french influenced, AFAIK.
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Re: Small house/ cabin plans
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2009, 03:42:13 PM »
 May have to adjust my size a little. Since this will be sorta a full time residence for me, might have to up it a little. Need room for washer dryer,small freezer, n possibly 2nd small bedroom for kids/guests to visit. As I'm matureing in years,want primary bedroom downstairs.Ain't as good at climbing stairs as I once was.

A couple could easily live full time in our cabin.  Half of the "back porch" (6X12) is the laundry room. Washer, dryer, water heater, and open hanging closet.  Our bedroom is downstairs.  The entire upstairs, (10X24) is the guest bedroom and closet.  The 12-12 roof pitch allowed for the upstairs room.  The back porch is 6X12.

Ours is 24X20  plus the 6X12 laundry room.  A 24X24 would be better.  I'd also build 8" porches, and still take half of the back porch (8X12) for the laundry/utility room.

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Re: Small house/ cabin plans
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2009, 07:40:09 PM »
Ours is 24X20  plus the 6X12 laundry room.  A 24X24 would be better.  I'd also build 8" porches, and still take half of the back porch (8X12) for the laundry/utility room.
I think you meant 8', but you make a good point. Also worth considering is enclosing part of the porch in with screen, another useful space. If you can afford, full wrap around porches are ideal, and protect the home the best as well.

On the point about the washer/dryer. The home I'm building is 28'x32'. It was originally 24'x28', but I had to bump it up in size to get the washer/drying on the main floor. The original plan was similar to what I have, except it didn't have a walkout basement, and in order to get the room needed to have stairs both going up and down from the main floor, I needed to use the space where the washer/dryer was previously (one side of the stairs), and expand the kitchen/din/liv area and added the washer/dryer next to the kitchen. The original did put the washer/dryer on the main floor for the same reason I'm putting it there, for old folks...lol

Even in the case of the 24x24 I linked to above, it would be easy to incorporate the washer/dryer on the main floor, tie it into the bathroom, IMO, or some people are putting them into a large closet in the bedroom, you just have to plan out the plumbing.

Like others, I'm not getting any younger, so wanted everything I needed on the main floor, so have my master bed/ba, washer/dryer, kitchen, dining/living all on the main. I originally had a large home designed which was 54'x54', full wrap around 10' covered porches, full walkout, 1500 sq.ft. of open loft area on the 2nd floor, and a 3rd floor looking (16x16) with only a 4' walkaround.

I scaled it down to the 28x32 floor plan so that I could try to tackle it myself. Previously I wasn't planning to do the log work, which was round log timber frame using SIPs as the skin, which was going to cost $150k for the log work alone.

Now I'm using square logs with dovetails. Simple box plan with a walkout basement and upper floor. Each floor has a private bed/ba. For me this maximizes the usability of the sq. ft.

Having a walkout basement is worth considering for most folks, since you will be building a foundation anyway, why not just add a few feet and make it living space? I'm splitting mine with shop in half the walkout, and bed/ba on the other. I will use the entire basement as the shop to build the house.
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Re: Small house/ cabin plans
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2009, 08:49:57 PM »
I'd also build 8" porches
I think you meant 8'

Whaddaya mean....8'......just how much room do you need ???  Just think how much easier it would be to sweep off..... :D

Seriously, it does take a lot less sq. ft. for just the two of us.  Plus, the grands have a ball upstairs.  Basements don't work for us here.  They would just fill up with water.  :'(
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