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Re: Texas Drought
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2011, 10:28:35 PM »
Don't know the type of planes, but one contractor has grounded most of their fleet due to aircraft age and maintenance issues.  I hear there are still plenty to do the job - just getting them where they need to be is a challenge.  I'd suspect the Type I heli-tankers would work well in Texas, fast and accurate, as well as carrying large payloads.

The Texas situation seems to be getting worse, maybe the weather will change.......
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Re: Texas Drought
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2011, 11:05:01 PM »
Winds have finally dropped, humidity still low, low fuel moisture, or, no fine fuel moisture.  The old fire dog in me woke up long enough to note that this is a young mans job, and went back to sleep.  Still, sad days in Texas. 

I watched film of the Bastrop fire and saw it crown over roads, and spot a hundred yards ahead.  I worked for 13 years on fire and only saw one crown fire, this year will be a historic reminder that man is a visitor, and nothing more.
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Re: Texas Drought
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2011, 06:04:47 PM »
Bastrop area has lost 1,400 homes, thusfar and 2 lives.  Wind picking up today.  Closer in, Montgomery, Grimes and Waller counties (they have a DC-10 dropping retardant) fires have given cause for great concern over all the smoke in this area today, very smokey in Livingston proper....and still...who knows?    Still, no rain in sight.
We have been 'losing water' since Ike came through.  Last I looked, we were 45 inches short of average rainfall, but that has been a while back.
Lots of youtube on the Bastrop area fire.  

(would post, but don't have the time to figure it out)

Every day, on the road to the house, I see more of the larger SYP and hardwoods dead.  Several areas, in that 5 mile drive, have become more dead than alive as I can see from the highway.

22,000 acres and at least 60 homes have been destroyed in the Montgomery (3 county) fire...wind is picking up and containment is waning.

As of this morning, 09/09/2011, there were 176 fires burning in Texas.  120 of the in East Texas.  Just heard a moment ago of a fire in the county, just outside Livingston.  No real details yet.
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Re: Texas Drought
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2011, 05:25:54 PM »
Where are you at?   TRanger lives in Livingston and I'm formally down the street in Conroe.

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« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2011, 05:47:51 PM »
He is about 3 blocks over from my office, another one of the Texas contingency.

Oh, and the fire in the county he mentioned, some yahoo burned trash and set the woods on fire.  I wonder why?  Why the woods caught, not why the yahoo lit it to start with, I mean really, such good days for burning, dry, windy, no fuel moisture.  'tis a puzzlement.
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Re: Texas Drought
« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2011, 08:31:11 PM »
TR, There ain't no rhyme or reason to dumb a$$.
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« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2011, 10:06:29 PM »
My ole submarine buddy from Texas sent me a photo of his new rain gauge. A bottle cap!
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« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2011, 11:17:40 PM »
The bottle cap is out of date, we are using blotter paper, now.
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Re: Texas Drought
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2011, 02:42:20 PM »
Hang in there guys, went through it in 02, what the drought didn't kill the hoppers ate up.  We didn't have the fires though, sure hope you can catch a few good rains, SOON!

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Re: Texas Drought
« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2011, 06:05:55 PM »
Where is a good hurricane when you need one?   :-\
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« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2011, 09:57:44 PM »
Where is a good hurricane when you need one?   :-\

Would take a bad one just to get some rain. 
I'm loosing 2-3 Oaks a day it seams like. Every time I stop and look around more and more of my big oaks are dying. Depressing. 
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Re: Texas Drought
« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2011, 10:56:16 PM »
We are also loosing Oaks, and we are not nearly as dry as you are.   :-\
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Re: Texas Drought
« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2011, 06:41:06 AM »
A hurricane, if it strangely brought 110 mph winds to us as did Rita and Ike, with the ground and trees in the shape they're in....lawd, lawd. 
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« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2011, 09:21:12 AM »
This is breaking my heart.  We put a man on the moon, and we can't find a way to get all this flood water from the Northeast to the Southwest?  We don't need a tunnel, we have a railroad.  A railroad tanker can hold up to 33,000 gallons and we have tens of thousands of them.  Why isn't something being done? 

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« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2011, 10:29:50 AM »
Plenty of abandoned pipelines that could carry the water, just no common sense in the higher ups anymore.
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« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2011, 11:42:35 AM »
Anyone have an idea how many gallons of water it would take to help?

A good 2" rain would amount to how many gallons per acre?  Maybe 50,000 gallons?

And would there be an irrigation system already set up to distribute that water?

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« Reply #36 on: September 12, 2011, 08:15:52 PM »
One acre inch is something over 27,000 gallons of water. The Riley Rd. fire just west of here   has burned 22,000 acres, so one inch of rain on the burned area is 594,000,000 gallons at 8.3 pounds per gallon  :P :P(calculator down shifted) is,  ??? ??? well, a bunch.
Ya'll be willing to pay freight? :D :D :D

I haven't come up with anything other than having a couple of wells dug this fall. One to irrigate the garden and yard (we are on a rural water system). Another on a small hay field.
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« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2011, 12:21:12 AM »
Tri County fire now at 85% contained, according to news 2.  Bastrop at 65% contained.  Tri County has now been burning six (6) days, for 28,000 acres.  That has got to be wrong, but what was reported.  A little less than 200 acres an hour.
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Re: Texas Drought
« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2011, 06:27:42 AM »
One report I saw referred to the TriCounty fire at 35,000 acres on Saturday.   How much water/rain do you believe it would take to be of any notable benefit?  How much before it would be enough to be able to burn a fire in a woodstove?   10-20 inches, with regular rainfall thereafter?   
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« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2011, 08:53:05 AM »
I really wasn't thinking about irrigating the entire state.  My thoughts were more along the lines of filling those cattle ponds. 
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